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RE: Do you ever - 1/8/2008 7:32:53 PM

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i certainly have, but if in the future i forget, please call my therapist so that she can lock me back up. :)

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RE: Do you ever - 1/8/2008 7:34:56 PM

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I was swooned by a Dom couple. We talked about everything. I was assured I was wanted- loved-deeply cared for part of the family.I was collared and told they had only collared one other sub before.(lie) I knew I would be expected to do dishes/cooking/etc which I was happy to do- I wished to serve- I craved to learn

I was told on serveral occasions They were NOT looking for a maid.(lie)

However as time went on a maid is what I became- laundry- cooking-shopping-dishes-washing walls-vacumming-dusting, cleaning cabinets,washing pictures and so on.

OP 'sQuestion asked: "Do you ever get the feeling that some Dominants and couples are just looking for someone to clean, do the laundry and cook when they ask for submissives."

Yes I do, it was exactly what happened to me- I was deceived-conned-scammed!

< Message edited by swtnsparkling -- 1/8/2008 7:37:58 PM >

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RE: Do you ever - 1/8/2008 7:37:30 PM

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I understand that it happens and you have my sympathies. I was simply trying to understand what the OP meant by scam as people have come on the forums raging about how dare dominants want NSA housework and how they are scammers even though everything is clear and upfront.

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RE: Do you ever - 1/8/2008 7:45:36 PM

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no apologies neccessary. :)

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RE: Do you ever - 1/8/2008 8:15:18 PM

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Oh my.. I am so crushed to find out I am not intellegent because the post did not state WHY such profiles clearly stating they want housework only, are being dishonest.
I shall go retire to my bed now and weep.
Kyst

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I sincerely hope you have learned your lesson about starting a thread and trying to start intellegent discourse!! <wink>

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RE: Do you ever - 1/8/2008 8:28:13 PM

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the post did not state WHY such profiles clearly stating they want housework only, are being dishonest.

Was not the Original question.- and no where in that question was anything such as ( profiles that clearly state they want housework) mentioned.

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RE: Do you ever - 1/8/2008 8:28:41 PM

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Thanks for asking.People who scam subs. They tell them they are dominant when they are not just to get someone to work for them for free. i thought my OP said that very clearly. Not all profiles gave me that feeling, but some of themn did.

It still isn't clear to me. What are you defining as a scam?

Is it a scam when someone says "I just want NSA housework and I'm not giving you anything in return" and the submissive says "All right that is fine with me"?

Or are you talking about someone saying "I want housework but we will also scene", the submissive says "Ok" and they never deliver on the scening?

Thanks for writing out the questions, AquaticSub. I've been trying to figure that out this whole thread. It's certainly not a scam if both parties agree to scenario #1. If scenario #2 happens - well, there are users in every walk of life. I think most of us have had learning curves with our growth as Doms or subs. The sub should learn from this experience and move on.

I'm not quite sure what in a profile would lead you to believe someone was only looking for cheap labor b/c as soon as I see 'no strings housework' checked off as a 'lives for' or 'loves', I was outta there! lol

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RE: Do you ever - 1/8/2008 8:33:19 PM

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Im done .. you are on your own ..... you have wayyyy more patience than I do ....

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RE: Do you ever - 1/8/2008 9:56:21 PM

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Miss Harlet, we get it, we really do. Well, *I* get it. But I think it's crap. So I asked for some proof, an example if you will, and got nothing in return to back up the impression, the thought, the statement, whatever.

As the OP seems to have quite the time stating her full and complete question, observation, or statement, as evidenced time and time again on these forums, perhaps that could be worked on. Perhaps if she had said, "I get the feeling when I read some profiles, that some people are out to scam others for free housework when the person being scammed really expects a D/s or M/s relationship, because ________" and then TELL US WHY, then it would be a different outcome.

Instead we get half-ideas, rhetorical questions, unsubstantiated statements, lots of True Doms do XXX...and True subs do YYYY and it's then like pulling teeth to try to get anything to clarify the statements.

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RE: Do you ever - 1/9/2008 4:18:19 AM

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takenbyjohnr07,

     As you are now probably aware, NSA is a kink for some.
     Scams there are dozens of them going on.   Some submissives have made a total mess of their lives and want nothing more than a Dom to come and fix them.   Most of them really have no grasp on being a submissive at all and all they want is someone to take them away from the mess they are in, and take care of them, mostly financially.   Some of them take it to a live-in level, but others will ask for money for airfare and moving expenses and then totally disappear.   Some Dom(me) will ask for tokens for online play and totally disappear after the money arrives.   Some will court online for quite awhile then request money from the other for some emergency that arises then disappear or maybe they will ask and get many times then disappear.   Some people want nothing more than cyber sex---they are called trolls.   They get their jollies online then disappear, change their screen name and move on to the next. Some Doms are not even Dom's they use this lifestyle so they can legitmately at least in their minds abuse their partners.      It's not right but it happens.   Most people have educated themselves enough to avoid the scams.
   I fail to see the point of this post.   At first it made sense if you didn't understand that some people get off on NSA house work but there are many posts about scams or fakes out there and it seems that after being on the boards for awhile you would be aware that there are people out there looking to take advantage of others in many different ways.
    If I were you instead of trying to prove your point, it might be easier to simply say, "wow I didn't know that" take what you learned and move forward.   Learning is what the forums are about not trying to prove you are 100% right.

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RE: Do you ever - 1/9/2008 4:39:19 AM

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if you understood the thread at all, you would see that your post is the one that makes no sense. My thread has absolutely nothing to o with anything that you wrote about. It's totally the opposite. Instead of writing long winded repremands, maybe you should of read the thread and some of of the other people's post who actually understood what they were reading. Then you might be the one saying hmm... i've learned something.

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RE: Do you ever - 1/9/2008 5:28:11 AM

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if you understood the thread at all, you would see that your post is the one that makes no sense. My thread has absolutely nothing to o with anything that you wrote about. It's totally the opposite. Instead of writing long winded repremands, maybe you should of read the thread and some of of the other people's post who actually understood what they were reading. Then you might be the one saying hmm... i've learned something.

It is an internet forum. People will interpret as they will. Stop being defensive when someone doesn't agree or understand what your saying. Next time explain it in a non snarky way and maybe people will be more receptive. Being defensive and snarky just gets you the responses you got.

Yes maybe people interpreted your thought process wrong but maybe it is because you didn't explain or clarify it very well. Being nasty only gets your flamed and misunderstood even more. Go ahead and post another snarky comment to me, it just proves my point. If you can't handle people interpreting things in their own way and not agreeing with you then maybe public internet forums are not for you.

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RE: Do you ever - 1/9/2008 6:00:34 AM

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if you understood the thread at all, you would see that your post is the one that makes no sense. My thread has absolutely nothing to o with anything that you wrote about. It's totally the opposite. Instead of writing long winded repremands, maybe you should of read the thread and some of of the other people's post who actually understood what they were reading. Then you might be the one saying hmm... i've learned something.

It is an internet forum. People will interpret as they will. Stop being defensive when someone doesn't agree or understand what your saying. Next time explain it in a non snarky way and maybe people will be more receptive. Being defensive and snarky just gets you the responses you got.

Yes maybe people interpreted your thought process wrong but maybe it is because you didn't explain or clarify it very well. Being nasty only gets your flamed and misunderstood even more. Go ahead and post another snarky comment to me, it just proves my point. If you can't handle people interpreting things in their own way and not agreeing with you then maybe public internet forums are not for you.

Seconded. When only a handful out of how many are the only ones who get it, it's quite possible you didn't explain yourself as well as you could have. Nobody here can read your mind and more than one person asked you to define scam before you actually responded.

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RE: Do you ever - 1/9/2008 6:07:57 AM

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quote:

Oringal question
Do you ever get the feeling that some Dominants and couples are just looking for someone to clean, do the launbdry and cook when they ask for submissives. This way they don't have to pay someone. Some of these profiles give me the feeling that they are just looking for cheap labor. i could be wrong.

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Perhaps if she had said, "I get the feeling when I read some profiles, that some people are out to scam others for free housework when the person being scammed really expects a D/s or M/s relationship, because ________" and then TELL US WHY, then it would be a different outcome.

What you write is the same thing the OP wrote you just turned some words around, as for telling us all why they think that way- the OP doesnt have to explain why they feel that way, She was asking if anyone of us ever get that feeling also- Yes I do at times -done.I dont have to go into details why.I still do not understand why it is so hard to understand a simple question. Must every post on here be disected word for word and explained? cant people just read a question . a yes or no answer would work. Profiles stating housework included or a person kink were never part of the OPost.

moving on

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RE: Do you ever - 1/9/2008 6:16:37 AM

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IN other words what you are saying is that if people don't agree with you, then they are wrong.
Hmm.. I think I saw 2 or 3 people who were right in your mind.
<g> thanks for letting us know the error of our ways
Kyst

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if you understood the thread at all, you would see that your post is the one that makes no sense. My thread has absolutely nothing to o with anything that you wrote about. It's totally the opposite. Instead of writing long winded repremands, maybe you should of read the thread and some of of the other people's post who actually understood what they were reading. Then you might be the one saying hmm... i've learned something.

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RE: Do you ever - 1/9/2008 6:29:48 AM

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No, Cali wrote "out to scam others for free housework when the person being scammed really expects a D/s or M/s relationship", which the OP did not. She wrote that she got the feeling some dominants just want NSA housework - which some do.

She never said why or what made her feel that way so we asked. That influences my answer to her question a great deal because if she was refering to the people who have NSA housework written on their profiles, I don't have a problem with that. If she is taking about a profile that doesn't have that, then yes I would think that is scamming.

People ask for clarification all the time in person, why would the Internet be different?

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RE: Do you ever - 1/9/2008 6:34:44 AM

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Thank you, you are very kind. On these bpards there is a small group of people who fail to grasp most threads that they post responses on. i see it every day.That is not the poster's fault. i just don't get it. Especially when you take the time to explain it over and over again. If they ask to clarify and they still don't get it. They should move on. That's what i would do. Anyway, thanks again for being sdo kind and understanding my thread.

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RE: Do you ever - 1/9/2008 6:39:01 AM

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That reply was meant for one person only Who was repremanding me.. It should say that on the bottom page of my post who the response was written to.

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RE: Do you ever - 1/9/2008 6:48:12 AM

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Thank you, you are very kind. On these bpards there is a small group of people who fail to grasp most threads that they post responses on. i see it every day.That is not the poster's fault. i just don't get it. Especially when you take the time to explain it over and over again. If they ask to clarify and they still don't get it. They should move on. That's what i would do. Anyway, thanks again for being sdo kind and understanding my thread.

HUH?

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RE: Do you ever - 1/9/2008 6:51:55 AM

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ORIGINAL: takenbyjohnr07

Thank you, you are very kind. On these bpards there is a small group of people who fail to grasp most threads that they post responses on. i see it every day.That is not the poster's fault. i just don't get it. Especially when you take the time to explain it over and over again. If they ask to clarify and they still don't get it. They should move on. That's what i would do. Anyway, thanks again for being sdo kind and understanding my thread.

HUH?

Jeff

What Jeff said.

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