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RE: Some religions believe - 1/16/2008 7:42:41 AM   
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What is the real bible then ? Rome and Roman scholars (payed by the Pope) admit that they twisted the Bible to fit. We don't know the real bible as it was.



The "Real" bible, is the culmination of the man-made creation, which were numerous writings which were sifted through and sorted, some in and some out, put together finally as a result of the Nicean Council (as pointed out by MercnBeth earlier) in 410 A.D.

From there, the "real" bible was taken on and translated, according to divine convenience, by the remaining 4 Popes... to wit the 5 popes (total) argued for centuries in re: who really was and was not pope and who was the top dog pope.

The Alexandrian and Cartheginian popes finally gave in to the Roman pope under the argument of the "Peterine Doctrine". The other two popes ended up in a three-way war of words, wherein they each finally, in 1067 A.D., called each other heretics and excommunicated each other from the church. This "war" of iggying  each other lasted until 1967 when the 3 popes finally agreed to disagree and unexcommunicated each other whereby then the Roman Catholic Church, the Greek Orthodox Church, and the Russian Orthodox Church finally recognized each other.

Just a bit of history.


You forgot the Armenian Orthodox church which was established some 50 years before the counsel of Niccea.

Everyone forgets the Armenians..... *sob*

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RE: Some religions believe - 1/16/2008 7:43:46 AM   
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Dispensations are available for purchase in the back of the church after mass.

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For what price?

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RE: Some religions believe - 1/16/2008 7:44:49 AM   
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that it is against God to do any BDSM. Does anyone know why? Is it because of the sexual pleasure that they object to or is it something else? Thanks



But who really cares? "God" is a fantasy.

People need to stop using god as a scapegoat for their own ignorance and blind moralizing.




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RE: Some religions believe - 1/16/2008 7:47:57 AM   
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Dispensations are available for purchase in the back of the church after mass.

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For what price?


We will need to look in your purse

the Vatican Accounting Office

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RE: Some religions believe - 1/16/2008 7:47:58 AM   
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The "Real" bible, is the culmination of the man-made creation, which were numerous writings which were sifted through and sorted, some in and some out, put together finally as a result of the Nicean Council (as pointed out by MercnBeth earlier) in 410 A.D.



Well technically it wasn't Mercnbeth, it was Merctech -
But I am pedantic like that.
 
And yes - most people do forget the Armenians...
 
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RE: Some religions believe - 1/16/2008 7:49:07 AM   
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I've never heard of Lilith being created by fire.  I'll have to find that one.

I've heard that the story of Lilith is to explain the contradiction in Genisis where first God created man and woman and later he put Adam to sleep to extract the rib and make Eve.

Thank you.

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RE: Some religions believe - 1/16/2008 7:51:00 AM   
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ORIGINAL: OmegaG

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Dispensations are available for purchase in the back of the church after mass.

Pope Pius IV


For what price?


We will need to look in your purse

the Vatican Accounting Office


But my Lord, the purse 'tis light

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RE: Some religions believe - 1/16/2008 7:55:38 AM   
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Status: offline 		Just the purse?..............btw, thanks to years of indoctrination, I can still recite the Niciean Creed..........sad really

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RE: Some religions believe - 1/16/2008 7:57:33 AM   
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Status: offline 		Its so long - but I think its in the Alphabet of (and then the name escapes me) Sirach ?  And I know various pagan books that list Lilith as from Fire, but then that could always be another Lilith.  Meh - if names were as individual as people, it would make life so much easier...
 
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RE: Some religions believe - 1/16/2008 7:59:16 AM   
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Just the purse?..............btw, thanks to years of indoctrination, I can still recite the Niciean Creed..........sad really

Jeff


I was raised heathen by a man who was Southern Baptist, though I was not raised without theology in my house, but it was the more cynical kind of teaching.

I've always had a thing for Catholics though-- such complexity of psyche.

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RE: Some religions believe - 1/16/2008 8:00:50 AM   
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Its so long - but I think its in the Alphabet of (and then the name escapes me) Sirach ?  And I know various pagan books that list Lilith as from Fire, but then that could always be another Lilith.  Meh - if names were as individual as people, it would make life so much easier...
 
the.dark.

 
OK-- it could be the same Lilith but a different lore, many pagens like their demi-gods to have been founded in nature.

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RE: Some religions believe - 1/16/2008 8:04:56 AM   
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Status: offline 		the story im familiar with is that Lillith was created first for Adam, but not from Adam. therefore she had her own mind (god forbid!) so, she was sent away and Eve was created from Adams rib to compliment and obey him.
Later, or elsewhere, Lillith was hurting and angry over her mistreatment and became the Goddess of Death and Destruction.
(this is taken from a book i have that is upstairs so im not going to go get it to quote lol)
she is also my second um and let me tell you she can rip some shit up!!!!

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RE: Some religions believe - 1/16/2008 8:06:52 AM   
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Status: offline 		Ah.... no... it was from an Armenian.( I cheated and checked because it had me confuzzled I couldn't remember)
Doh - there, even I forgot the armenians...
 
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RE: Some religions believe - 1/16/2008 8:06:52 AM   
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ORIGINAL: OmegaG

I was raised heathen by a man who was Southern Baptist, though I was not raised without theology in my house, but it was the more cynical kind of teaching.

I've always had a thing for Catholics though-- such complexity of psyche.


The best thing about being raised Catholic.......it makes sex dirty..:)

Jeff

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RE: Some religions believe - 1/16/2008 8:09:31 AM   
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Ah.... no... it was from an Armenian.( I cheated and checked because it had me confuzzled I couldn't remember)
Doh - there, even I forgot the armenians...
 
the.dark.

 
now I really have to check it out, thank you.

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RE: Some religions believe - 1/16/2008 8:11:56 AM   
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RE: Some religions believe - 1/16/2008 8:13:08 AM   
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If you give me some time, I will find the exact source and post it here or mail it.
 
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Oh, that would be very nice, thank you.

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RE: Some religions believe - 1/16/2008 8:30:30 AM   
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Status: offline 		If that's true, who created the religions? Are ALL religions created by God?

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RE: Some religions believe - 1/16/2008 8:37:36 AM   
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RE: Some religions believe - 1/16/2008 8:48:29 AM   
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