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RE: Some religions believe - 1/16/2008 7:04:35 AM

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Still for the normal man on the streets Sodom And Gomorra are sexual related and related to Sin.
Look up books and movies, when the name is used there is sex and sin in it.

In Christianity, their names have become synonymous with impenitent sin, and their fall with a proverbial manifestation of God's wrath (Jude 1:7).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sodom_and_Gomorrah

That's what I call a bastardation of the Bible-- man has twisted it to fit his own agenda.

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RE: Some religions believe - 1/16/2008 7:04:42 AM

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that it is against God to do any BDSM. Does anyone know why? Is it because of the sexual pleasure that they object to or is it something else? Thanks

RELIGIONS are not against BDSM.

PEOPLE are against BDSM.

There's a huge difference.

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RE: Some religions believe - 1/16/2008 7:05:04 AM

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it took me a while to find these.....but the following are from ..Leviticus 20

13 " 'If a man lies with a man as one lies with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They must be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads.
18 " 'If a man lies with a woman during her monthly period and has sexual relations with her, he has exposed the source of her flow, and she has also uncovered it. Both of them must be cut off from their people.
27 " 'A man or woman who is a medium or spiritist among you must be put to death. You are to stone them; their blood will be on their own heads.' "

it doesn't mention bdsm........but apparently I can't fuck a woman having her period..............I always thought I couldn't go down on her.........go figure

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RE: Some religions believe - 1/16/2008 7:06:02 AM

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Still for the normal man on the streets Sodom And Gomorra are sexual related and related to Sin.
Look up books and movies, when the name is used there is sex and sin in it.

In Christianity, their names have become synonymous with impenitent sin, and their fall with a proverbial manifestation of God's wrath (Jude 1:7).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sodom_and_Gomorrah

That's what I call a bastardation of the Bible-- man has twisted it to fit his own agenda.

What is the real bible then ? Rome and Roman scholars (payed by the Pope) admit that they twisted the Bible to fit. We don't know the real bible as it was.

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RE: Some religions believe - 1/16/2008 7:07:54 AM

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I just love "christians" who forget the teachings of Jesus (you know, eye of needle and "be nice and shit") and instead want to waddle around in the Old Testament. If they want to do that, someone already does that, they are called Jews who on the whole are vastly more civilized!

Religions/sects/cults/philosophies that teach you to be your brother's keeper are always trouble, ones that have you look inward and mind yourself tend to be more nurturing.

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RE: Some religions believe - 1/16/2008 7:09:13 AM

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What is the real bible then ? Rome and Roman scholars (payed by the Pope) admit that they twisted the Bible to fit. We don't know the real bible as it was.

It is the 'real' bible - only translated badly and missing huge portions. But it isn't the whole 'story'.

the.dark.

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RE: Some religions believe - 1/16/2008 7:13:56 AM

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What is the real bible then ? Rome and Roman scholars (payed by the Pope) admit that they twisted the Bible to fit. We don't know the real bible as it was.

It is the 'real' bible - only translated badly and missing huge portions. But it isn't the whole 'story'.

the.dark.

True..I want so much the gospel Of judas and the one of Maria Magdelena to be added. Spice up the things some

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RE: Some religions believe - 1/16/2008 7:14:22 AM

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and little more than a ploy to keep the easily-led and gullible financially and emotionally enslaved to the various figureheads that dominate their lives.

Hi Dark, nice to meet you

I marked some words red. They made me remind how soem people think about our "lifestyle"
emotionally instable females running in the hands of bad man? Mmm I am not religious, but aren't we as prejudiced as others are about us? Just because we disliek it?

Hello Justme, pleased to make your acquaintance (though this is Darcy rather than the.dark

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I actually chose those words deliberately, with similar thoughts to yours in mind. As to your comment, I whole heartedly agree, and I'm the first to admit that my loathing of religion is every bit as hypocritical as those who supposedly serve a God who loves everybody equally........apart from those who don't conform to the rules (so where exactly does the free will fit in there? Hmmmm).

The difference I would offer in my defence is that while I loathe religion, I do not fear it, nor want it destroyed or outlawed, as it does bring comfort to some, who obviously enjoy their suffering and domination, which brings us full circle to your point again.....

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RE: Some religions believe - 1/16/2008 7:15:35 AM

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Still for the normal man on the streets Sodom And Gomorra are sexual related and related to Sin.
Look up books and movies, when the name is used there is sex and sin in it.

In Christianity, their names have become synonymous with impenitent sin, and their fall with a proverbial manifestation of God's wrath (Jude 1:7).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sodom_and_Gomorrah

That's what I call a bastardation of the Bible-- man has twisted it to fit his own agenda.

What is the real bible then ? Rome and Roman scholars (payed by the Pope) admit that they twisted the Bible to fit. We don't know the real bible as it was.

The bible was written for a specific culture of people, when one reads it with the knowledge of what moral lessons it was intended for then they are putting the Bible in the correct context. When they use the Bible to suit their own agenda then they are corrupting those words to manipulate others to follow their own paradigms.

I feel that I need to add that I consider myself an apatheist. I am not anti-religion as I feel that many religious peope do live happier lives with their faith then they would if they didn't have something to hold on to. And I wouldn't care if they didn't like homosexuality, sex outside of marriage, BDSM (insert other soapboxes here) if they only applied their moral choices to themselves but when they foist those rules on others who don't believe as they do then they've overstepped. I feel that I am as able to decide my path as any one else and I may have thought more about it then most Bible thumpers.

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RE: Some religions believe - 1/16/2008 7:17:32 AM

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What is the real bible then ? Rome and Roman scholars (payed by the Pope) admit that they twisted the Bible to fit. We don't know the real bible as it was.

Except we don't know where Jesus kissed her often.

It is the 'real' bible - only translated badly and missing huge portions. But it isn't the whole 'story'.

the.dark.

True..I want so much the gospel Of judas and the one of Maria Magdelena to be added. Spice up the things some

Except we don't know where Jesus kissed her often on

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RE: Some religions believe - 1/16/2008 7:22:43 AM

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and little more than a ploy to keep the easily-led and gullible financially and emotionally enslaved to the various figureheads that dominate their lives.

Hi Dark, nice to meet you

I marked some words red. They made me remind how soem people think about our "lifestyle"
emotionally instable females running in the hands of bad man? Mmm I am not religious, but aren't we as prejudiced as others are about us? Just because we disliek it?

Hello Justme, pleased to make your acquaintance (though this is Darcy rather than the.dark )

I actually chose those words deliberately, with similar thoughts to yours in mind. As to your comment, I whole heartedly agree, and I'm the first to admit that my loathing of religion is every bit as hypocritical as those who supposedly serve a God who loves everybody equally........apart from those who don't conform to the rules (so where exactly does the free will fit in there? Hmmmm).

The difference I would offer in my defence is that while I loathe religion, I do not fear it, nor want it destroyed or outlawed, as it does bring comfort to some, who obviously enjoy their suffering and domination, which brings us full circle to your point again.....

It woke me up....because I respond similar..untill I saw the words. It is important to respect eachother choices and not fear. You made a good point.

(Yes i noticed I mixed you two up ;) ) my apology :P

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RE: Some religions believe - 1/16/2008 7:23:18 AM

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True..I want so much the gospel Of judas and the one of Maria Magdelena to be added. Spice up the things some

Oh goodness, yes - Mary/Judith/Thomas' all ROCK !

the.dark.

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RE: Some religions believe - 1/16/2008 7:24:01 AM

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it took me a while to find these.....but the following are from ..Leviticus 20

13 " 'If a man lies with a man as one lies with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They must be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads.
18 " 'If a man lies with a woman during her monthly period and has sexual relations with her, he has exposed the source of her flow, and she has also uncovered it. Both of them must be cut off from their people.
27 " 'A man or woman who is a medium or spiritist among you must be put to death. You are to stone them; their blood will be on their own heads.' "

it doesn't mention bdsm........but apparently I can't fuck a woman having her period..............I always thought I couldn't go down on her.........go figure

Jeff

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RE: Some religions believe - 1/16/2008 7:26:32 AM

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Bear..............don't worry about the rules...they are for the other guys

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RE: Some religions believe - 1/16/2008 7:29:08 AM

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The bible was written for a specific culture of people, when one reads it with the knowledge of what moral lessons it was intended for then they are putting the Bible in the correct context. When they use the Bible to suit their own agenda then they are corrupting those words to manipulate others to follow their own paradigms.

The bible as we now know...was adjusted for other purposes then you mention. But the first one, was propably like you describe it.

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RE: Some religions believe - 1/16/2008 7:34:46 AM

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True..I want so much the gospel Of judas and the one of Maria Magdelena to be added. Spice up the things some

This is Darcy.

I'd just like to see the original first page reinstated, you know, the one that goes.....

"This is a work of fiction. Names, characters, places and incidents either are the product of the author’s imagination or are used fictitiously, and any resemblance to any actual persons, living or dead, events or locales is entirely coincidental. "

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RE: Some religions believe - 1/16/2008 7:35:38 AM

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The bible was written for a specific culture of people, when one reads it with the knowledge of what moral lessons it was intended for then they are putting the Bible in the correct context. When they use the Bible to suit their own agenda then they are corrupting those words to manipulate others to follow their own paradigms.

The bible as we now know...was adjusted for other purposes then you mention. But the first one, was propably like you describe it.

But what human has the authority to adjust it-- especially when they claim it is the Word of God?

And we haven't even talked about Pope Innocent going through the Bible with his equivilant of a sharpie. We've lost complete passages because this man felt that he had the authority to determine what was in and what was out, and that was after the pagen Empror Constantine created the counsel of Niccea to create a standard for Christianity in order to keep Rome together. (Constantine converted on his death bed-- his mother was the one who traveled to Israel and decided where all the biblical landmarks were)

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RE: Some religions believe - 1/16/2008 7:36:45 AM

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True..I want so much the gospel Of judas and the one of Maria Magdelena to be added. Spice up the things some

This is Darcy.

I'd just like to see the original first page reinstated, you know, the one that goes.....

"This is a work of fiction. Names, characters, places and incidents either are the product of the author’s imagination or are used fictitiously, and any resemblance to any actual persons, living or dead, events or locales is entirely coincidental. "

*snork* that's going to happen.

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RE: Some religions believe - 1/16/2008 7:38:54 AM

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What is the real bible then ? Rome and Roman scholars (payed by the Pope) admit that they twisted the Bible to fit. We don't know the real bible as it was.

The "Real" bible, is the culmination of the man-made creation, which were numerous writings which were sifted through and sorted, some in and some out, put together finally as a result of the Nicean Council (as pointed out by MercnBeth earlier) in 410 A.D.

From there, the "real" bible was taken on and translated, according to divine convenience, by the remaining 4 Popes... to wit the 5 popes (total) argued for centuries in re: who really was and was not pope and who was the top dog pope.

The Alexandrian and Cartheginian popes finally gave in to the Roman pope under the argument of the "Peterine Doctrine". The other two popes ended up in a three-way war of words, wherein they each finally, in 1067 A.D., called each other heretics and excommunicated each other from the church. This "war" of iggying each other lasted until 1967 when the 3 popes finally agreed to disagree and unexcommunicated each other whereby then the Roman Catholic Church, the Greek Orthodox Church, and the Russian Orthodox Church finally recognized each other.

Just a bit of history.

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RE: Some religions believe - 1/16/2008 7:40:19 AM

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