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Does "On your knees, Bitch!" EVER work in a f... - 1/24/2008 12:57:30 PM

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As a straight dom, when I make first contact with a sub in the personals I always write a personal e-mail, generally behaving like a gentleman, and composing my message in a tone identical to what I would use to introduce myself to someone in the vanilla world. I make the assumption that we all know what we are here for, and that subs presumably want to be treated like full fledged human beings, at least until they choose to offer me their submission. I assume they already know I am capable of taking a much more commanding tone with them, else I wouldn't be here, and I assume they would only want to be exposed to my dominant energy after they have gotten to know me.

When I began hearing from many different subs that they frequently receive e-mails along the lines of "Hey you stupid worthless slut whore, get down on your slut knees before you read the rest of this message, you cheap slut bitch...", my first reaction was "Oh, those are just loser Dom-wannabes who don't understand what BDSM is really about". But I was recently told that many subs PREFER to be degraded this way in a FIRST e-mail communication, and that there is actually a subculture of subs who make a policy of not responding to e-mail UNLESS the Dom asserts himself in a very aggressive, degrading way in that first communication.

I am absolutely not judging anyone here! But I am completely fascinated and confused by this. It seems to me that subs' biggest complaint is usually that they meet pseudo-doms who aren't really into BDSM, and are just looking for easy sex. I would think that regardless of whether you are turned on by this kind of talk, responding to FIRST e-mails in which you are treated that way would just be asking for trouble.

Am I missing something? Is this really the preference of a significant population (subs wanting this sort of initial contact), or was my first instinct (that these are just ignorant loser dom-wannabes) correct?

Curiously yours,

A.E.

RE: Does "On your knees, Bitch!" EVER work in... - 1/24/2008 12:59:38 PM

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when i get the on your knees bitch emails, they either get ignored (if im in a good mood) or get a rather rude response. im a submissive, that doesnt make me a slut or a bitch for anyone, and people don't get to call me those things until i know them much much better :)

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RE: Does "On your knees, Bitch!" EVER work in... - 1/24/2008 1:00:06 PM

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Some people want to be abused from the first word. Others do not.

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RE: Does "On your knees, Bitch!" EVER work in... - 1/24/2008 1:01:54 PM

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i can not speak for other submissives, but anytime i receive an email like that i generally send a bitch-o-gram back blasting them for assuming i would even consider submitting to someone that shows such a complete and total lack of class and respect. Then of course i block them so i get the last word in.

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RE: Does "On your knees, Bitch!" EVER work in... - 1/24/2008 1:02:53 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: fullofgrace69

when i get the on your knees bitch emails, they either get ignored (if im in a good mood) or get a rather rude response. im a submissive, that doesnt make me a slut or a bitch for anyone, and people don't get to call me those things until i know them much much better :)

Same here although they must work somewhere with someone as there certainly seem to be enough of them to think they get some success.

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RE: Does "On your knees, Bitch!" EVER work in... - 1/24/2008 1:05:09 PM

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Does it ever work?

Only if my Owner emailed it to me. :-p

I get emails along those lines every so often. Normally, I just have fun with it and get to be rather snarky.

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RE: Does "On your knees, Bitch!" EVER work in... - 1/24/2008 1:06:11 PM

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I don't know anyone who goes in for random degradation. Most people get enough of that in traffic jams.

As far as being capable of taking a more commanding tone in the future, that wouldn't interest me. I like a subtle control. When I met The Man, I picked the spot because I didn't know the area but did know I could find that place. I said coffee, and he calmly said he preferred breakfast at the diner nearby instead of 20 minutes at an uncomfortable table in a busy Starbucks. Nothing commanding, or objectionable, but control nonetheless. Personally I don't want a tone that can be put on or off, I want to see the real person and prefer that the real person tends to be someone who naturally takes command but listens to input from others.

Now as far as rude emails, either delete and block. Or lately, I demand they forward said emails to their mother, and ask for a refresher course in manners. If you would wince at someone saying this to your mother/sister/daughter then you shouldn't say it to someone else's. Karma, ya know.

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RE: Does "On your knees, Bitch!" EVER work in... - 1/24/2008 1:07:58 PM

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p.s. What I'm specifically hoping for is that a sub who LIKES being treated that way from initial contact will be willing to share their feelings here. Again, I'm not judging anything, but I am absolutely fascinated as to how this could feel good from someone you've never met, and I'm sincerely curious to understand the feelings of a sub who prefers such treatment.

A.E.

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RE: Does "On your knees, Bitch!" EVER work in... - 1/24/2008 1:08:04 PM

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Whether it's true that there's such a subculture of submissives or not, I can't help wondering how they would then go about choosing which "On-Your-Knees-Bitch" dom they will respond to by throwing themselves onto their knees. Will they be the whore of the first man who writes, or of the one who's the most aggressive, or of someone most local to them? Because you never just receive one email like this, they rain down like mana several times each day.

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RE: Does "On your knees, Bitch!" EVER work in... - 1/24/2008 1:10:07 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: AlterEgo69

p.s. What I'm specifically hoping for is that a sub who LIKES being treated that way from initial contact will be willing to share their feelings here. Again, I'm not judging anything, but I am absolutely fascinated as to how this could feel good from someone you've never met, and I'm sincerely curious to understand the feelings of a sub who prefers such treatment.

A.E.

I kind of doubt you'll find it here, but I might be suprised. We really tend to be more of the smack those trolls around until they run away crying to their mommies types here

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RE: Does "On your knees, Bitch!" EVER work in... - 1/24/2008 1:10:41 PM

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I am sure it works sometimes. Some submissives see that as confidence. Others see it as rude.
While I would never even dream of emailing someone that way, I do know I have been told that becasue I am polite I dont come across as "dominant" enough for some and they dont care to keep contact.
To each their own.

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RE: Does "On your knees, Bitch!" EVER work in... - 1/24/2008 1:17:14 PM

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Well, AlterEgo69, in your email you show that you have class - and you reach those subs that have class. I guess, it's as simple as that - birds of a feather...

S.

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RE: Does "On your knees, Bitch!" EVER work in... - 1/24/2008 1:24:24 PM

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I have often been approached by Doms who immedately expect me to submit to them. Gizzo, Angel, and I call guys like that"the great lprd of oombabamaumau"...meaning they aren't nearly so high and mighty as they think.

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RE: Does "On your knees, Bitch!" EVER work in... - 1/24/2008 1:27:03 PM

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Personally, I view such emails as a sign of uncouthness and would never in a million years give someone like that the time of day, though I have been known on occasion to have fun putting wannabes back where they belong.....down into the slime from whence they crawled

If some sub/slaves enjoy that kind of verbal abuse, then more power to them, but it is a sign of arrogance and disrespect for a Dom/Master to assume all of us want to be treated that way.

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RE: Does "On your knees, Bitch!" EVER work in... - 1/24/2008 1:28:15 PM

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Some girls want an extremely clear and strong divide between their Master and anyone else they would normally socialize with. They don't want their owners to be in any way friendly or jovial or anything. All business, all the time. Even in initial emails.

I just wish that there was some way to clearly identify these people. Years ago when I was looking, I'd send out the typical polite long email and introduce myself, talk about me and so on, and occasionally get back one of those "You didn't top me immediately, you don't know what you're doing emails" and it just frustrated me to no end. It's not like you can go back and say, "But, but, but, sure I can! Bitch! Whore!" You've lost any chance at that point. Open up a new account and try with that one, I guess.

Who knows, maybe they were just blowing me off and rattling my cage.

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RE: Does "On your knees, Bitch!" EVER work in... - 1/24/2008 1:30:23 PM

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Am I missing something? Is this really the preference of a significant population (subs wanting this sort of initial contact), or was my first instinct (that these are just ignorant loser dom-wannabes) correct?

Ummm....yes.

I venture to say that the submissives you want to attract would consider such communications crass and beneath contempt--they would agree with you that the author is a "loser dom wannabe".

The submissives those same authors wish to attract will hold a different opinion.

I prefer a gentlemanly approach myself. It leads to fewer apologies and more friends.

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RE: Does "On your knees, Bitch!" EVER work in... - 1/24/2008 1:34:30 PM

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I read his profile, he makes it very clear what he is looking for, including the weight specs.

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RE: Does "On your knees, Bitch!" EVER work in... - 1/24/2008 1:36:18 PM

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When I began hearing from many different subs that they frequently receive e-mails along the lines of "Hey you stupid worthless slut whore, get down on your slut knees before you read the rest of this message, you cheap slut bitch...", my first reaction was "Oh, those are just loser Dom-wannabes who don't understand what BDSM is really about". But I was recently told that many subs PREFER to be degraded this way in a FIRST e-mail communication, and that there is actually a subculture of subs who make a policy of not responding to e-mail UNLESS the Dom asserts himself in a very aggressive, degrading way in that first communication....
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...Am I missing something? Is this really the preference of a significant population (subs wanting this sort of initial contact), or was my first instinct (that these are just ignorant loser dom-wannabes) correct?

Curiously yours,

A.E.

A.E.
I am curious about whether you were told this by a sub or a Dom/me.

aJ

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RE: Does "On your knees, Bitch!" EVER work in... - 1/24/2008 1:37:58 PM

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Everey time... They tell me they are on thier knees...... laughing

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RE: Does "On your knees, Bitch!" EVER work in... - 1/24/2008 1:40:03 PM

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Oh yeah those e mails work yeah work at getting them blocked right away. It is below me to even bother to respond to them. Master might want to just for fun but i don't have time for losers.

Matt's littleone

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