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RE: BDSM SNOBS - 1/25/2008 1:45:27 PM

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Frankly I don't think I'll ever be an 'expert' at anything. There is just too much to learn and too many opportunities to learn that would prevent me from ever being something of an expert. I may gain valuabe experience but I do not think I will ever be above learning. In any subject, at that. I'll forever be a student and I think I'm quite fine with that.

-Brian.

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RE: BDSM SNOBS - 1/25/2008 1:49:09 PM

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It's just another label.

New, old, fake, wanna-be, "real", twue, snob, elite, newbie....whatever. Pick your example. Labels suck (sometimes...or most of the time).

- Mr. S

i must be a label then as sucking is one thing i know i do well....(sucking snob)

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RE: BDSM SNOBS - 1/25/2008 2:09:55 PM

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dear Maya
i understood what you said and i agree with your experience of collarme. For me it was just a great place to be and i had become disillusioned completely with alt and bondage and informed consent. I look forward to posting here and i love both the hard knocks (wonder why lol) and the support and the differing opinions and probably most of all the humour which on dark days lifts me.

i have actually met some excellent people in real time through collarme and felt that i could be open and expose myself here. Only once thus far have i been 'outted' and had boundaries crossed.

But this is a difficult medium, this cyber posting thing and there are cultural differences too which mean that i cannot be certain i have caught the correct tone or intention within a post.

I can be flip, and arrogant and yet sometimes serious and eloquent....just as in real life. But it is more tempting to be flippant here as there are no real consequences other than to not read the whole of a reply.

i don't care if others see me as experienced or mot. i don't need to prove i am experinced. I believe my body is my channel, my skill, my body is my whip, my cane, my equipment, my ropes, my cage. My body is what He owns and my body ages chronologically just like anyone else's.

However when i say my experience i do not mean i refer to my past. When i say my experience i refer to my NOW. And so it makes no sense whatsoever to say i have had half a decade of experience. It is what i am experiencing right now which is what is most valueable to me and is a marker of what i have learned.

Right now i am coming down from an intense scene. i hurt, and i miss Him and already, from only two days ago, it is too long ago and i want to do that intensity again and then again do it more right now if i could. But you know there's jobs, and house stuff and unmentionablers, and domestic shores and family and writing and cooking and yaddah yaddah....does that also count as experience? because without all of that i wouldn't be holding myself together, body, heart, mind and soul. Even He can't do that.

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RE: BDSM SNOBS - 1/25/2008 2:28:26 PM

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Compound? Like culty?

I think he must be confusing Black Oak's 'The Lodge' with something else... think of the anti-playboy Mansion....

http://blackoakarkansas.us/photos/lodge

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RE: BDSM SNOBS - 1/25/2008 3:03:15 PM

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dear Maya
i understood what you said and i agree with your experience of collarme. For me it was just a great place to be and i had become disillusioned completely with alt and bondage and informed consent. I look forward to posting here and i love both the hard knocks (wonder why lol) and the support and the differing opinions and probably most of all the humour which on dark days lifts me.

i have actually met some excellent people in real time through collarme and felt that i could be open and expose myself here. Only once thus far have i been 'outted' and had boundaries crossed.

But this is a difficult medium, this cyber posting thing and there are cultural differences too which mean that i cannot be certain i have caught the correct tone or intention within a post.

I can be flip, and arrogant and yet sometimes serious and eloquent....just as in real life. But it is more tempting to be flippant here as there are no real consequences other than to not read the whole of a reply.

i don't care if others see me as experienced or mot. i don't need to prove i am experinced. I believe my body is my channel, my skill, my body is my whip, my cane, my equipment, my ropes, my cage. My body is what He owns and my body ages chronologically just like anyone else's.

However when i say my experience i do not mean i refer to my past. When i say my experience i refer to my NOW. And so it makes no sense whatsoever to say i have had half a decade of experience. It is what i am experiencing right now which is what is most valueable to me and is a marker of what i have learned.

Right now i am coming down from an intense scene. i hurt, and i miss Him and already, from only two days ago, it is too long ago and i want to do that intensity again and then again do it more right now if i could. But you know there's jobs, and house stuff and unmentionablers, and domestic shores and family and writing and cooking and yaddah yaddah....does that also count as experience? because without all of that i wouldn't be holding myself together, body, heart, mind and soul. Even He can't do that.

beautifully written, Prinsexx :) and *hugs* for missing Him...

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RE: BDSM SNOBS - 1/25/2008 5:04:54 PM

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I often wonder why so many other people spend so much time wondering about others instead of getting on with their own life.

You know what?
I don't give a flying fuck what most people do. If someone is a snob great. If someone is not, thats great too. But if you bring snobbery down around my ass I will be happy to tear it down. I reserve that right exclusively and I will do it. I have a tongue like a hedge clipper.

With that said, am I a snob?
Most likely.
Some of the people around me think I am the most arrogant SOB they have ever met, others think I am a great guy.

I do know that I have little tolerence for ignorance and less for stupidity.
I will mock people to their face.
Thats not neccesarily right but it is who I am.
I stand for what I believe and I don't like people who bully or shove their unrequested opinions down others throats.

I am an intellectual elitist.

Fuck worrying about what others do, why not worry about what I do?

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RE: BDSM SNOBS - 1/25/2008 5:08:10 PM

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ORIGINAL: Kana
I have a tongue like a hedge clipper.

I am strangely intrigued.

Obligatory on-topic note (I know, I know): I have little patience for people that have chosen stupidity as a personality trait. Not those with truly impaired intelligence, but those who know better.

Cali

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RE: BDSM SNOBS - 1/25/2008 5:08:26 PM

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ORIGINAL: Kana
I am an intellectual elitist.

Hot

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I have a tongue like a hedge clipper.

Ow

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RE: BDSM SNOBS - 1/25/2008 5:20:15 PM

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In my world, I ACTUALLY care about how someone reacts when I do SOMETHING TO THEM! Some people!

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RE: BDSM SNOBS - 1/25/2008 5:22:51 PM

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In my early twenties, I was uninitiated. I asked for any help at all. I did not claim to "know it all". I did not know where to find any answers. I was ridiculed and mocked at that time. This is just part of my story. I am telling my story

I am glad that people can find helpful people. I seem to have had much experience different than that other people have told me about happening to them.

I may offend people with my writing style. Hopefully, I'll improve.

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RE: BDSM SNOBS - 1/25/2008 5:24:09 PM

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Yes but did WE ridicule you and mock you?

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RE: BDSM SNOBS - 1/25/2008 5:26:23 PM

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I fought for ANY SHRED of respect. I have plenty of lumps; I have paid my dues. Now I am a leatherTop. I am not strictly submissive, not strictly dominant, not strictly a sadist nor a masochist. I found out my greatest passion is being ON TOP.

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RE: BDSM SNOBS - 1/25/2008 5:27:33 PM

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i dont think i'm one of them so i'll sit back and watch the noses stick up in the air a little higher...

~meticulous~

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RE: BDSM SNOBS - 1/25/2008 5:49:39 PM

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There are kinds of BDSM snobs. There are those that brag that they can take so much more pain than others. There are those that belittle those with less 'extreme' kinks.

I attract a lot of the plain old kind of snob. Like I have a friend that goes to BDSM gatherings and makes sure only to invite the thinnest and most attractive people to her parties. Then I have another friend that invites only the 'classy'. I have yet another friend who believes most people in the lifestyle are trash and will not do any sort of public munch or gathering. So yes, there are tons of people in the lifestyle that are really judgmental over education, income and thinness. If you are what they look for, they will find you and pursue.

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RE: BDSM SNOBS - 1/25/2008 6:10:20 PM

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ORIGINAL: Maya2001

I can understand that not every one want sto share their knowledge or they may , see a poster as coming across as a misguided idiot for a question they put forth, if you view it as such why not simply ignore the poster and move on to another post.......... or explain why their views come across as idiotic if that is the way you feel..... what purpose does berating and insulting, offer that person if no advice as to why their question or opinion is foolish or is distorted in your opinion ?? Is it simply done to stroke your own ego or is it done for sadistic pleasure?

i am in full agreement on this one. i admit that i've responded such a few times, but at the same time i see these people who make stupid comments on threads or complain that threads they find ridiculous aren't dying. why are you posting on a thread if you want it to die? posting on it is going to make it stay around longer than just ignoring the damn thing. if you don't like the question or find the person immature/naive/stupid/ignorant, whatever, there's no reason to be nasty and say that, they'll learn soon enough that they need to change or they'll be forced out of the communtiy in r/l. and frankly a lot times it just makes you look like the idiot or some holier than thou type who gets their kicks going around finding threads to make comments like oh look another stupid newbie question. it takes a lot less time and effort to just ignore the damn thing than it does to respond.

i was going to say that i'm sorry for any unintended hurt feelings but that's not necessarily true either. it's my opinion and i stand behind it, so take it as you will.

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RE: BDSM SNOBS - 1/25/2008 6:23:15 PM

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ok - i kinda think i should write something on this massive thread.

a. i dig irish mist's attitude on most threads.
b. baileys is a great drink.
c. as a newbie on this forum i spent a lot of my time reading, reading and more reading. I use the search function and i only add information where (1) its relevant and/or (2) no-one else has said it. I try to only post threads where I have a specific question.

I have yet to encounter a snobbish attitude from members towards me personally - i do see some members getting grouchy with new & old members who come across as either asking stupid questions or know-it-alls or are disrespectful of answers they are given in good faith.

I think personally that respect has to be earnt and the eastest way of doing that is asking question with respect and not being an idiot.

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RE: BDSM SNOBS - 1/25/2008 7:12:21 PM

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personally, i am only snobbish about being a dork, it is hard work to be as dorky as i am. Not like i was just born this way

There are dork pretenders... but only a few twue dorks so i reserve the right to be as snobbish and bitchy toward the wanna be dorks as i wish to!

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RE: BDSM SNOBS - 1/25/2008 7:35:05 PM

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On the respect issue...I leave that as a personal choice. Some chose to make you earn their respect and that's their wish. I'll happily oblige if I think I need/want their respect though I am not about to change who I am just to be respected by a person online. I tend to fall into the other category. I give respect to everyone until you prove you don't deserve it, which is frankly quite hard to do. You have to try to offend me and then keep trying to make me angry and since I don't take many things online personally you're probably out of luck. What I can say is that the quickest way to lose my respect is to just be a complete idiot who thinks he/she is the greatest gift to god and this earth and sputter out moronic insults while attempting to be 'sophisticated'. I have nothing against people who have a great deal of pride in themselves, I respect those individuals, but they tend to know why they pride themselves so much and act in a manner that is appropriate.

I don't know, maybe being a gay man has made my skin fairly thick. There isn't anything you could throw at me that I haven't had said to my face, I don't think. Though I must admit there are times when I get in a mood to argue and will lower my standards to trade insults with 'trolls' as the internet calls them. I am not too proud of those moments.

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RE: BDSM SNOBS - 1/25/2008 7:44:54 PM

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facts?...ok....Mist says she is rude......you ask what is her goal?....I ask....somewhat sarcastically why she needs one. She replies she doesn't need to explain herself you you. You cop an attitude claiming she is a good example of this thread, the implication being she is a snob , which she admit, and not respectful. I say, she needs to respect and please who SHE decides is worthy, not just anyone who claims to be dom

Jeff

wow..I think that is most Jefff ever wrote on a post. Irish, he must be a really true dom to come to your rescue (not that you need it, mind you!).

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RE: BDSM SNOBS - 1/25/2008 7:48:46 PM

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ORIGINAL: Jeffff

facts?...ok....Mist says she is rude......you ask what is her goal?....I ask....somewhat sarcastically why she needs one. She replies she doesn't need to explain herself you you. You cop an attitude claiming she is a good example of this thread, the implication being she is a snob , which she admit, and not respectful. I say, she needs to respect and please who SHE decides is worthy, not just anyone who claims to be dom

Jeff

wow..I think that is most Jefff ever wrote on a post. Irish, he must be a really true dom to come to your rescue (not that you need it, mind you!).

/sniff

He's such a gentleman, isn't he?

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