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RE: How to get your Email Read (or, CM and you) - 1/26/2008 7:05:06 PM   
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my profile must stink cos i don't get many replies..

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RE: How to get your Email Read (or, CM and you) - 1/26/2008 7:12:51 PM   
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Even if none of those needing help reads this... it still gives us a chance to glisten over Stephan's... brain.

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RE: How to get your Email Read (or, CM and you) - 1/26/2008 7:21:39 PM   
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All I want is for people to actually read my profile and at least attempt to comprehend what's written their before contacting me.  I guess that's asking too much here, for the most part.

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RE: How to get your Email Read (or, CM and you) - 1/26/2008 7:25:31 PM   
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That can be said for any "personals site" princess.  There will always be guys out there that see female, and send out an email without taking the time to read your profile.  Not every email i have received here has been like that however, in fact i have found quite a few emails from people that have actually read my profile, and questioned or commented on it.  Just have to weed through the emails without getting upset over the trolls.  eh, trolls are everywhere.  

Cali... his brain has left me drooling and glistening more than a few times

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RE: How to get your Email Read (or, CM and you) - 1/27/2008 3:40:54 AM   
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ORIGINAL: CalifChick
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Even if none of those needing help reads this... it still gives us a chance to glisten over Stephan's... brain.
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If spreading misinformation about nursery rhymes is a brain then yes, one hell of a brain that is. Just because something is said on the internet no matter how many times it doesn’t make it correct you’d think someone with such a brain would understand this by now. Firstly the term ‘getting laid’ is an American term which used to have no meaning at all in Europe, therefore authors of such rhymes could not be implying any kind of sexual connotations by laying sticks down on the ground, secondly I’m not aware of sticks as being slang for homosexuals and why it would be? Thirdly what does the line “one two buckle my shoe” mean Stephann? As far as I’m aware, I could be wrong, it is a rhyme taught to children to help them learn to count. Maybe he thinks ‘Marry had a little lamb’ is anti George bush and ‘Row row row your boat’ is mocking disabled people. Just because a few nursery rhymes have nasty hidden meanings it doesn’t mean they all do.

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RE: How to get your Email Read (or, CM and you) - 1/27/2008 3:54:32 AM   
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One potato, two potato
Three potato, four
Five potato, six potato
Seven potato, more

 
Stop picking on the obese damn it!

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RE: How to get your Email Read (or, CM and you) - 1/27/2008 9:27:13 AM   
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I really did not think I had any more to add to this thread since all the comments covered it quite nicely. Until this morning's batch of collarme mail brought this first email from a guy who joined yesterday. Perhaps he needs to speak to Stephann?

He simply wrote:

excuse me darling but can i put my dick up yer ass

Lovely sentiment, no? And an email that could be deleted or replied to in a number of ways.

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RE: How to get your Email Read (or, CM and you) - 1/27/2008 9:31:18 AM   
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ORIGINAL: kitttty

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How to get your Email Read (or, CM and you)


Answer: Be Stephann

Seriously, am I the only poster who thinks Stephann is the most mesmerizing and attractive male poster on the CM boards? And I mean wayyy ahead of the pack here.


Hell, I'd do him.

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RE: How to get your Email Read (or, CM and you) - 1/27/2008 9:40:25 AM   
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ORIGINAL: sexyred1

I really did not think I had any more to add to this thread since all the comments covered it quite nicely. Until this morning's batch of collarme mail brought this first email from a guy who joined yesterday. Perhaps he needs to speak to Stephann?

He simply wrote:

excuse me darling but can i put my dick up yer ass

Lovely sentiment, no? And an email that could be deleted or replied to in a number of ways.


Well, at least he got a nice, polite excuse me in there?

Am trying to imagine the thought process that ends up with that message as a result, and am quite grateful that I can't!

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RE: How to get your Email Read (or, CM and you) - 1/27/2008 9:40:56 AM   
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I think I might want to add actually read someone's profile if you plan on telling them how fascinating their profile was. I get mail constantly from people saying "I read your profile, I like how you think, I am the perfect match for what you are looking for". Which immediately tells me you did no such thing, since several spots in my profile say I am not looking. Staring off your first ever email with a lie is a BAD first impression...
And do not use your friends list as your admirers list. This is not myspace, I am not going to have a mile long list of friends just to try and make me look popular. My friends are people I have actually spoken to and no one else.
I will admit I talk to some lovely people, but never once has one of these random do-me emails amounted to a decent conversation.
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RE: How to get your Email Read (or, CM and you) - 1/27/2008 9:47:28 AM   
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I put this up a long time ago on another BDSM site as a comment (for a female firned who was having some issues) but I still find that it holds true today.
Here are what  I term, for better or for worse, Kanas rules for contacting:

What is with the influx of absurd one line comments that endlessly flow in on BDSM sites? Were it limited to a compliment that would be one thing, but to approach someone with a graphic or lewd sexual comment and expect a response that is positive is ridiculous to the point of stupidity. The same applies for making orders to someone who the sender has not even met yet. Where does this Neanderthal approach originate? I am aware that I am taking a stand against an ocean of banality, but damn it, Quixotian I will remain, tilting at windmills, someone has to try and maintain dignity and standards. Just because it is the Internet does not preclude basic human decency. How can one master another unless one has already mastered himself?

Can it possibly be that the sender actually believes that it will work to impress the recipient? I presume these are the same people who wear a dinosaur skin and bring a club to a singles bar so as to smack women unconscious and drag them back to their caves to do God knows what actions on them.

I am aware that there are basically two schools of domination, that of the iron fist with the other being the silken glove. Personally I tend towards a combination, an iron fist encased in a silken covering. To make the approach using nothing of subtlety, disregarding tact and nuance completely screams beware to me. Anyone who cannot grasp the details that make up a bound relationship in my mind has nothing to do with BDSM but has slid into the realm of misogyny. Plus, if the person is so totally incapable of attempting to have any compassion or feel for the other party, how in the world can they be trusted in heavy play? In BDSM, these things are huge, far more important than in the vanilla world because the physical, emotional and spiritual connections run so much deeper, thus making the capacity to grasp the tiny touches that can make or break interaction that much more important.

Take the time to really carefully read the profile to which you are responding. Check to make sure that you fit what they are looking for, then slowly craft a response based on what you see there. Let the person know through what you write that you are sending them something written only to them, make her feel special, this cannot be stated often or loudly enough. Trust is given and can never be taken; domination comes from respect, trust, love and desire. If you are incapable of making the effort to make a good first impression, then how should it be presumed that you will act in a week or a month or a year when you are now taking the other party for granted?

Try being honest and real, dropping the uber-dom nonsense and approaching her like you would any other human being whose respect you desire to win. Lead with your best foot; show some personal touches about yourself. No one spends their entire life in BDSM, we all have hobbies, families, hopes, desires and dreams, flush them out a bit, make yourself seem a whole person and not a caricature. Humor is always good, far too many people in internet BDSM take things way to seriously. Write something, then and this is huge, take the two seconds to spell check it. To not do so ruins hours of work right out of the gate, nothing says nimrod like someone who can't take the two minutes involved to ensure that the document is spell checked. You wouldn’t send a work document without checking it, so why not one of these?

With all that done, before you send your response, stop. Wait a while, like overnight, and then check it again. Ask yourself, "Am I showing myself the way I would like to be perceived? Am I being persuasive? Have I stuck to my boundaries or roamed all over the place? What would I think were I to receive this message?" When all those questions are answered to your satisfaction, then and only then send your response. It works I promise it does. It takes time and effort, but hey, on ALT men outnumber women about 30 to 1, do something to shift the scales in your favor and amazing things could happen for you. There are real people out here who know what they are doing; it is just sometimes a tedious process to find these diamonds in the compost heap. Personally I am thankful that the nimrods are so glaring in their extreme moron hood, they might be very dangerous if they were to get any brains about what they do. Instead it is like a form of social Darwinism, they eliminate themselves from the gene pool and also make the rest of us look much better in the process, simply by the virtue of not being them. That I must confess is a happy thought to end this little missive (or maybe I should say missile) with.

Kana

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RE: How to get your Email Read (or, CM and you) - 1/27/2008 9:50:14 AM   
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ORIGINAL: lauren0221

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ORIGINAL: sexyred1

I really did not think I had any more to add to this thread since all the comments covered it quite nicely. Until this morning's batch of collarme mail brought this first email from a guy who joined yesterday. Perhaps he needs to speak to Stephann?

He simply wrote:

excuse me darling but can i put my dick up yer ass

Lovely sentiment, no? And an email that could be deleted or replied to in a number of ways.


Well, at least he got a nice, polite excuse me in there?

Am trying to imagine the thought process that ends up with that message as a result, and am quite grateful that I can't!


I actually felt like reprimanding him, so I wrote back and asked why he thought that being rude would get him anywhere. He wrote back that he apologized, thought he was being funny and that he thought I was stunning and wanted to get my attention.

I told him, you get one chance for a first impression and you blew it. Bye.

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RE: How to get your Email Read (or, CM and you) - 1/27/2008 10:29:55 AM   
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I agree with all of this, Stephann, but a comment about the forums.

On the one hand, yes, it's good to write in the forums, express your opinions, read about other people's opinions, and so on.  I've met quite a few people through the forums and they tend to be more genuine and sincere than the run-of-the-mill Collarme tourists.

On the other hand, most users on the other side don't spend much time in the forums.  I'd guess the forum-reading segment of Collarme is probably about 10% of the whole user population--or maybe even less.  Sometimes I feel that the forums are just the same people talking about the same issues day after day.  Obviously, I often find something new, or I wouldn't have 9000 posts.  But sometimes the forums really do seem...hmmm, what's the word...circumscribed.  And not EVERYONE on the other side is a tourist.

And one last thing to remember: people are not identical to the persona they assume in the forums.  What we write in here is only a slice of who we are.

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ORIGINAL: Stephann

6)  Use the forums.  This is the best part of Collarme.  If you're not talking on the forums, you're not getting as much exposure as you could, and you're not making nearly as many potential friends as you could.  The forums are a great way to establish who you are, what you're like, and what you like.

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RE: How to get your Email Read (or, CM and you) - 1/27/2008 10:49:46 AM   
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Generic "I like to have fun, watch TV, go to the movies, and hang out with friends" profiles don't leave much in the way for the other person to write you back, even if your first email was very informative.  Also, listing things you enjoy in people (i.e. I like women who enjoy politics) is a great way to attract like minded people. 
 


I wouldn't necessarily agree with this.

Personally, I'm largely indifferent to the details of a profile. I prefer to watch how people communicate and the content of their posts, and if I like their style I'll get in touch with them (regardless of the interests listed in her profile). Ultimately, a profile along the lines of "caring, loving, submissive to the right one, I have needs, with an interest in politics" tells me close to nothing of that person.
 
quote:

ORIGINAL: Stephann

Don't write people who are across the country, if you don't have the means to visit them.  Most people don't prefer long distance relationships to begin with. 



Agreed. I would have contacted a few people on here if I were in the same country, but it's almost pointless and a waste of energy on both sides.

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ORIGINAL: Stephann


5) it's a numbers game.  Don't be destroyed by one person saying "nope."  For every 10 good leads, only one will likely amount to anything.



It's a numbers game for some; it's not for me. I'd much prefer to watch someone's posts and build a picture of who that person is and how she carries herself before I even begin to think of contacting her.

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ORIGINAL: Stephann

6)  Use the forums.  This is the best part of Collarme.  If you're not talking on the forums, you're not getting as much exposure as you could, and you're not making nearly as many potential friends as you could.  The forums are a great way to establish who you are, what you're like, and what you like.
 


Agreed. I've certainly found them useful.

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ORIGINAL: Stephann

I'm sure there's others; anyone care to add to the list?



Be yourself, have the confidence to express yourself, don't have big expectations - take what comes in your stride.

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RE: How to get your Email Read (or, CM and you) - 1/27/2008 11:55:18 AM   
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Please, no one word messages, such as "hi".  How ridiculous is that?


I just got and deleted one of those...  (major eye roll)

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RE: How to get your Email Read (or, CM and you) - 1/27/2008 12:56:24 PM   
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Thanks for the great responses.

Briefly, LaM, I agree that the forums often fall into a humdrum routine.  But I do usually find something to pique my interest every couple days or so, and have had the good fortune to establish some great friendships in real life through the forums.

Also, whatever advice I suggested was, obviously, my own experience; I'm certainly not trying to portray myself as some sort of expert here. 

Happy hunting!

Stephan


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RE: How to get your Email Read (or, CM and you) - 1/27/2008 1:02:55 PM   
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Be friendly. It should go without saying, but I've always had the most success when I approached the people I wrote from a casual, "we're in a coffee shop" attitude. A light joke, friendly comment, or polite compliment goes a lot further than insults, instant degredation, or one line "hey, wanna chat?"


Bingo. As I've said before, there's no need to blurt out your whole life story in the opening email, or to "spend 30 minutes carefully crafting a response" to a profile. One or two lines can actually work fine....if they are engaging.

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RE: How to get your Email Read (or, CM and you) - 1/27/2008 8:18:06 PM   
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~Fast Reply~

My pet peeve is the use of one's profile and / or journal to whine about how other people treat you. "Where are all the real subs?" or "Why can't anyone be polite?" Immediate turnoff, very whiny, very undomly. It makes the poster seem as though he can't control his immature name-calling impulses.

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RE: How to get your Email Read (or, CM and you) - 1/27/2008 8:28:06 PM   
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I told him, you get one chance for a first impression and you blew it. Bye.


Geez, he called you darling.  You are one tough customer.


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RE: How to get your Email Read (or, CM and you) - 1/27/2008 8:36:04 PM   
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ORIGINAL: KatyLied

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I told him, you get one chance for a first impression and you blew it. Bye.


Geez, he called you darling.  You are one tough customer.



I know, I wish I could be more subly.

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