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RE: DIY Hoodectomy? - 1/27/2008 10:59:53 PM

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Hah, those delusions are long gone, but thank you either way Aquatic. And yes, I know alot of women have it done. And alot of women absolutely like it. The reason I was even considering this, is because of what I've already read about it.

In some places, it's actually religiously required for the hood to be removed. And it's done by the women in the village to the women as young children (Non-consensually, sadly enough.). They obviously would have lots of experience and practice in it, but it's obviously done outside of hospitals, and not done by surgeons, thank you very much Magnolia. I'm not saying they're doing it right by doing it themselves, in any way. I just know it's done.

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RE: DIY Hoodectomy? - 1/27/2008 11:03:41 PM

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Just because some cultures do thing outside of hospitals doesn't mean you should. Those people have a lot of practice and you simply don't. You don't even have someone standing over you who has a lot of experience!

Pay the money to have it done professionally or pay to travel to these other cultures and pay their experts to do it. Either way, get someone with experience.

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RE: DIY Hoodectomy? - 1/27/2008 11:05:54 PM

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Hah, those delusions are long gone, but thank you either way Aquatic. And yes, I know alot of women have it done. And alot of women absolutely like it. The reason I was even considering this, is because of what I've already read about it.

In some places, it's actually religiously required for the hood to be removed. And it's done by the women in the village to the women as young children (Non-consensually, sadly enough.). They obviously would have lots of experience and practice in it, but it's obviously done outside of hospitals, and not done by surgeons, thank you very much Magnolia. I'm not saying they're doing it right by doing it themselves, in any way. I just know it's done.

yeah....with rusty pieces of metal and maybe old fishing hooks....

from what I've read on the subject, which was just by skimming through, is that IF the procedure is done, the sensitivity is so much that the clit eventually becomes desensitized...who would really want that? Get it pierced a couple of times instead...

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RE: DIY Hoodectomy? - 1/27/2008 11:08:02 PM

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Thank you Abby. This post was only to see if this was something that was actually able to be done, safely, resposibly, and cleanly, in a DIY situation.

As Abby has said, many modifications are even done in a DIY situation, including under-flesh metal mods for penises, penis splitting, and as Abby has said, castration.

If you're going to get on me about my age, or calling me stupid, which I assure you is no case to claim about anyone you do not know, then stay out of my threads. This is a place to ask questions about health and safety, not to attack people about their interests and idea's.

If that's what the public BDSM community has become, a place to judge and make biased opinions because of age, looks, idea's, or desires, then it's become a sad thing indeed.

Again, I say. If anyone has actual valid information, then thank you.

And yes, those are valid points Magnolia, on things that could happen if it was done wrong. As is anything in the BDSM community that involves less vanilla activities than collars and paddles.

You are describing something that carries a high risk of scarring, disfigurment, pain, and even death. The best advice about DIY surgeries and body mods is "Don't". You maim a person even by accident and you will be explaining your misadventure to the local magistrate.

You only get to ignore reality for so long before it insists you pay attention. Best bet is to not fight it.

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RE: DIY Hoodectomy? - 1/27/2008 11:10:45 PM

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No, not with Rusty pieces of metal, and I find that a bit ignorant of you to say, and perhaps a little derogatory, I'm not quite sure.

And yes, that is a risk, but not 'eventually'. It is an occurance that happens sometimes, but most of the time, is something that is enjoyed and becomes quite fun for both the woman and the partner. But I do thank you for actually looking through it Raven, as I'm sure most of the people who have commented on it, haven't even taken a short google session on it.

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RE: DIY Hoodectomy? - 1/27/2008 11:12:19 PM

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Oh... I forgot... you might not be aware of sarcasm when reading it....:)

Also, in some of the articles I've read through, there is mention of male circumcision as well...do you miss your foreskin? From the information I've gotten, there is a small lack of sensitivity for the pecker, too...

just curious and in no way hostile....

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RE: DIY Hoodectomy? - 1/27/2008 11:14:06 PM

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http://wiki.bmezine.com/index.php/Female_Circumcision

wiki page on information on clitoral hood removal

http://wiki.bmezine.com/index.php/FGM

wiki page on FMG (also known as female circumscision)

the religious reasons for this procedure is shady at best, the Quran (i dont know if i spelled that right) never says anythign that says peopel should do this, and generally encourages kindness and tolerance towards woman and girl children in general from what ive read. its sad that more and more girls are forced into this for the claim of religious reasons when their holy book all but forbids violence towards women.

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RE: DIY Hoodectomy? - 1/27/2008 11:19:34 PM

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also wanted to add that yes, they do use whatever is handy, acachia thorns to poke the holes and heavy thread are sometimes used to sew the vagina closed. in one book called Desert Flower by Waris Dirie she goes into great detail about her experiences.
if you can find this book i recomend it:)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waris_Dirie

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RE: DIY Hoodectomy? - 1/27/2008 11:20:18 PM

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Oh... I forgot... you might not be aware of sarcasm when reading it....:)

No, I fully do admit, that after people attack me on my age, my idea's, and my intelligence, that they could possibly be sarcastic when speaking of other countries.

And Circumscision, is not something I would ever do. That's just foolish. What I'm talking about, is nothing more than the equivalent of getting a foreskin removed. It's basically the same thing, since removing the foreskin, allows the Glans Penis to be exposed permanently. The Glans Penis is the more sensetive area of the penis. And circumcscisons of that style are done every day. Again. I understand, experience/practice/knowledge is what is the important difference.

And no, I don't miss my foreskin. Head cheese sounds, and from what I've seen, looks nasty. And from what I've heard...smells terrible. I'd hate to deal with that. As I've also heard it's quite painful to peel away from the bare, sensetive flesh. So, no, I don't miss my foreskin one bit.

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RE: DIY Hoodectomy? - 1/28/2008 1:38:15 AM

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For the record, I prefer the penis I am permitted to play with to be uncut. It is a total fallacy that the uncut penis is in someway not as healthy as a cut one. If an uncut man knows how to wash, an uncut penis is the most beautiful thing on earth.

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RE: DIY Hoodectomy? - 1/28/2008 1:45:55 AM

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celticlord speaks wisely .. and why on earth any woman would willingly consent to someone mutilating them in that way is beyond my personal capacity to comprehend.

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RE: DIY Hoodectomy? - 1/28/2008 2:10:42 AM

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I think my clit (hood and all) just ran and hid for safety in my belly button....

I *hope* there aren't many girls stupid enough to risk something that precious for a DIY operation

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RE: DIY Hoodectomy? - 1/28/2008 2:35:10 AM

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Before anyone yells at me, as I already have had a few yell at me, when I ask around, I do not plan removal of the clitoris Glans, the Labia, or to sew up the vagina in any way.

This thread is purely about the sole removal of the Clitoral Hood, in order to make the Clitoris Glans exposed permanently.

My question is, has anyone here ever attempted a Do-it-yourself Hoodectomy, and if so, do you have any helpful information about places to research about it, how it worked out, and if it was something fun later on?

I want to learn as much as I can about it before trying to perform it, if one can perform it on someone in a DIY situation.

You're intention was very clear. You were looking for someone to tell you that it was possible to DIY a female circumcision. A female circumcision means ANY or all parts of a womans genitalia. It is also called female genital mutilation for a reason.

The following link is one that shows the opinions of Muslim women.
http://www.themodernreligion.com/women/w_circumcision.htm

By the way, I chose not to have my son circumcised at birth, for the same reason I wouldn't have had a daughter circumcised. Unless there are strong religious beliefs or a medical reason for it, it is an unnecessary and painful procedure. My son has never suffered from any kind of infection. I taught him to clean himself properly at a young age. "Dick cheese" forms when one doesn't pay adequate attention to cleanliness.

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RE: DIY Hoodectomy? - 1/28/2008 5:04:25 AM

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If you're going to get on me about my age, or calling me stupid, which I assure you is no case to claim about anyone you do not know, then stay out of my threads.

Actually, you don't 'own' this thread. You started it, but after that, it has a life of its own. I can well understand that people take your age and inexperience into consideration when dealing with your question. The fact you want them to shut up instead of dealing with their concerns is only proof your your immaturity.

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RE: DIY Hoodectomy? - 1/28/2008 5:12:10 AM

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do you miss your foreskin?

No, I don't actually. Perhaps I lack a little sensitivity, I couldn't tell you, as I can't compare :-)
There quite enough sensitivity left though.

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RE: DIY Hoodectomy? - 1/28/2008 5:47:06 AM

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Before anyone yells at me, as I already have had a few yell at me, when I ask around, I do not plan removal of the clitoris Glans, the Labia, or to sew up the vagina in any way.

This thread is purely about the sole removal of the Clitoral Hood, in order to make the Clitoris Glans exposed permanently.

My question is, has anyone here ever attempted a Do-it-yourself Hoodectomy, and if so, do you have any helpful information about places to research about it, how it worked out, and if it was something fun later on?

I want to learn as much as I can about it before trying to perform it, if one can perform it on someone in a DIY situation.

Aside from the obvious: risks of infection etc. here is something to think about:

If you were to go for any type of surgery and you thought to ask the surgeon "How many of these procedures have you done?" and their answer was "None, you will be my first.", how likely would you be to say "Great! Hand me that consent form."

A surgeon, if they are worth anything has not only studied the procedure via seminar and textbook but also watched it being done before then trying it out with supervision.
In the process of that they learn things like the optimum amount to cut away so as to minimize hypersensitivity.
They have already had practice in using a scalpel.
They know how to properly stitch, what to do in the event of bleeding or shock.
They know that under the best of circumstances something might go wrong.

Stuff to consider in between your rants...which you might want to reconsider as "helpful advice".

I would give you the benefit of the doubt of just wanting info except you seem to take exception to anyone who doesn't want to co-sign on your BS.

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2. Think.
3. Repeat as often as necessary.

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RE: DIY Hoodectomy? - 1/28/2008 7:13:23 AM

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Folks,

Please keep in mind that just because you don't appreciate or approve of the questions that someone might ask here, attacking them is not an appropriate response.

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RE: DIY Hoodectomy? - 1/28/2008 7:40:07 AM

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greetings tenchiryokomuyo,

female circumcision is having the clitoral hood removed, so yes, it is what you are considering doing.

i would recommend heavily researching the laws in your area. in some countries, only doctors are allowed to perform this procedure, and only at medical need; in others, body mod practitioners can perform it as well. unfortunately, the explanations you've given here are not likely to stand up in court if/when it comes to that, regardless of however much your partner may have wanted it.

i would also recommend, if you have to do this without the help of a competent plastic surgeon, you at least find a competent body mod practitioner to do it.

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RE: DIY Hoodectomy? - 1/28/2008 8:37:50 AM

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No, I fully do admit, that after people attack me on my age, my idea's, and my intelligence, that they could possibly be sarcastic when speaking of other countries.

You haven't been here very long, so you may not know this: These sorts of questions invariably come from 18 yr old males (maybe there's a switch in the 18 yr old male brain for this?). There was another one a few months ago about cutting off another body part of a woman. That one was met with the same attitude as yours. Nothing personal... apparently we don't take kindly to the idea that 18 yr olds want to cut things off of people (or have them cut off).

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What I'm talking about, is nothing more than the equivalent of getting a foreskin removed. It's basically the same thing, since removing the foreskin

No, it's not the equivalent, which shows you may wish to do some more studying about the female body. And as a previous thread discussed, even if some of us have "floppy meat flaps" (no, NOT me!), it's not like you have to go on a hunt for her clit. Get her turned on and it usually perks right up and pays attention.

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RE: DIY Hoodectomy? - 1/28/2008 8:55:44 AM

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Thanks anna, and I probably will look for a normal body mod practicioner.

And yes, Cali, that is how the clit is exposed naturally. I know this. And I had no idea that this is a normal occurance on this board, and I understand it is a controversial subject. I just didn't expect to have people just throw all this at me.

And how is it not like removing the foreskin? The foreskin has blood vessels in it. It hides the most sensetive and nerve-ending filled area of the penis (The Penis Glans, as noted earlier, for those that don't know), and is removed in almost the same way as a Hoodectomy is performed.

The Clitoral Hood contains blood vessels in it. It hides the most sensetive and nerve-ending filled area of the vagina. And is removed in the same way as a male circumscision.

It is pinched off, to restrict blood flow, peeled away from the rest of the organ, and cut through laser, scalpel, knife, and in most cases, doesn't even need suturing.

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