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RE: DIY Hoodectomy? - 1/28/2008 9:18:22 AM

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The Clitoral Hood contains blood vessels in it. It hides the most sensetive and nerve-ending filled area of the vagina.

Ummm....the clitoris is not part of the vagina. Also, just a sidenote, a clitoridectomy that is common in some religions is NOT done to enhance the woman's sexual experiences. Yes, I understand that you are not talking about removing the clitoris....but I am not aware of any religions that perform the type of procedure you are talking about in order to ENHANCE a woman's sexual pleasure. A woman's clitoral hood is there for a purpose and removing it could possibly result in relentless pain occuring with activities as mundane as walking.

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RE: DIY Hoodectomy? - 1/28/2008 9:48:45 AM

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Hello Tenchi

The removal of the hood is part of female mutilation/circ. And it is an extremely delicate area and although no different to foreskin removal is more invasive and carries higher risk. Female circ for religious purposes are not for sexual enhancement other than for male - which is a common myth. But hoodectomy is female circumcision. It is also good to remember that in the UK and europe, male circumcision isn;t a common practise as it is in the states.

As a DIY situation, I would not recommend it at all. Even piercers know their physiology. You face too much risk unless you go the whole medical training route. Tenchi, this really is one of those 'fantasy scenarios' that remain a fantasy, unless you are a medical surgeon and even then, they know and understand the risks.

I wouldn't worry about peoples pettiness at mocking your age. It's a simple anothers defense mechanism and if you had been older, it would have just been something else people would have been mocking.

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RE: DIY Hoodectomy? - 1/28/2008 11:12:55 AM

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This is one of the worst ideas in the history of bad ideas.

There's lots of things I just wouldn't do, not because it can't be done but maybe because they shouldn't be done - and certainly not by me in DIY fashion. If there is some real medical issue at stake - like a hooded clitoris that is incapable of providing normal pleasure - I would go to a surgeon. And even then, you want to make sure the person is not some quack with a good medical pedigree.

I would be extremely cautious in whatever I decided. I don't think clits just grow back like a salamander's tail.

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RE: DIY Hoodectomy? - 1/28/2008 2:35:55 PM

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I think anything you'd want to DIY would be something you'd trained seriously in doing first.
As far as removing the hood, I'd agree it's probably going to cause more pain and discomfort than it's worth.
As the hood is so close to the nerves that bring your clit all it's waves of pleasure the fact it may cause damage and numbness is a huge risk.
Also the opposite of it making you hypersensitive also is a big risk.

Over all I'd say unless you speak with lots of women who've done this and done OK with it I'd leave it as a fantasy.
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RE: DIY Hoodectomy? - 1/28/2008 4:25:30 PM

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Not only should cats keep their claws but all animals should keep all body parts unless there is a medical reason for removing them.

The hood has evolved to protect the clitoris. Do not desecrate the body.

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RE: DIY Hoodectomy? - 1/28/2008 7:06:47 PM

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A couple things I would like to add to the thread.

If the purpose of removal of the clitoral hood is to promote or enhance sexual response there are a plethora of much less drastic techniques to be used to arouse, stimulate and enhance sexual pleasure of a woman. A thorough study of the female sexual response, the anatomy of the entire genital area and a willingness to experiment to find that just right combo for each individual seems a much more prudent and healthy approach.

Secondly even a professional surgeon uses the right equipment, surroundings and team in order to achieve optimum results with minimal negative outcomes for even minor surgical procedures. Such delicate surgery of an area rich in both vascular supply and nerve endings deserves better than an amateur DYI approach.

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RE: DIY Hoodectomy? - 1/28/2008 7:28:56 PM

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Mod 11;

I appreciate the job that you do. If you ever need help, I will volunteer.
On that note, how were people attacking the OP, rather than arguing with him?
The question IS quite controversial, and will bring out strong emotions.
Unless someone is calling another person names, arguing your side, imo, is not attacking someone.
(at the same time I do realize that there may have been posts that were pulled)

OP;
This idea is BAD!!!!!
VERY, VERY BAD!!!!
go to your room and don't come out until you can explain to me why this is bad.

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RE: DIY Hoodectomy? - 1/28/2008 7:31:18 PM

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greetings tenchiryokomuyo,

the difference between removing the hood and removing the foreskin is that the clitoris contains as many nerve endings as the entire penis - in one tiny little area. so when it's exposed, it can be a hell of a lot more sensitive (read: agonizing), regardless of what you are doing, than the penis might be - considering that in the penis, at least those nerve endings are spread out over a much wider area. the hood is also (at least in my case) structured a bit differently than the foreskin - maybe it's just differences in individual female anatomy, but i can't imagine mine being as easily removed as you mentioned, not with the way my girly bits are structured. not to mention, if you cut in the wrong area, or if anything goes the slightest bit incorrectly, or even if it all goes right, it's still possible to be dealing with intense amounts of pain and bleeding.

i've had my girly bits pierced and tattooed and poked and cut on (not with the intention of being cut off), and this freaks me out. and when i say "competent body mod practitioner," i'm referring to one who (hopefully) has some medical experience as well. i can recommend a couple (who are bdsm-friendly) if you need recommendations.

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RE: DIY Hoodectomy? - 1/28/2008 8:42:53 PM

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Hi Mod 11, I still crush on You!!! *wink* Ok I am just gonna say I am SO thankful for my hood, stay ON TOP of it too, go under and I will kick you in the chin! Ekk, dude, REALLY?!?!?!?!?

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RE: DIY Hoodectomy? - 1/28/2008 9:01:54 PM

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ORIGINAL: TenchiRyokoMuyo

The Clitoral Hood contains blood vessels in it. It hides the most sensetive and nerve-ending filled area of the vagina. And is removed in the same way as a male circumscision.

It is pinched off, to restrict blood flow, peeled away from the rest of the organ, and cut through laser, scalpel, knife, and in most cases, doesn't even need suturing.

The word laser in a DIY topic?
Pretty scary.

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RE: DIY Hoodectomy? - 1/29/2008 8:18:31 AM

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Thanks anna, and I probably will look for a normal body mod practicioner.

And yes, Cali, that is how the clit is exposed naturally. I know this. And I had no idea that this is a normal occurance on this board, and I understand it is a controversial subject. I just didn't expect to have people just throw all this at me.

And how is it not like removing the foreskin? The foreskin has blood vessels in it. It hides the most sensetive and nerve-ending filled area of the penis (The Penis Glans, as noted earlier, for those that don't know), and is removed in almost the same way as a Hoodectomy is performed.

The Clitoral Hood contains blood vessels in it. It hides the most sensetive and nerve-ending filled area of the vagina. And is removed in the same way as a male circumscision.

It is pinched off, to restrict blood flow, peeled away from the rest of the organ, and cut through laser, scalpel, knife, and in most cases, doesn't even need suturing.

Just need to let you know that the procedure of male circumcision hasn't changed very much as far as I know the tool they use to cut it off hasn't changed since the early 1920's. I'd also like to add that male circumcision is in my opinion barbaric. It is extremely traumatizing to the um, It serves no real reason for cleanliness because when it was invented people didn't shower daily of even weekly. Last but not least it desensitizes the head and causes reduced sensitivity. So In my book leave her clit hood alone because it isn't broken and there's nothing quite like having a submissive begging for orgasm.

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RE: DIY Hoodectomy? - 1/29/2008 10:55:26 AM

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Yep, but if you were going to have it, would you rather have it when you're 2 days old, or 23 years?
(I'm just sayin')

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RE: DIY Hoodectomy? - 1/30/2008 11:47:20 AM

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Eh... I don't find male circumcision barbaric as it doesn't remove a man's ability to enjoy sex. I've heard a lot of people talk about how much greater it is with the foreskin, but I gotta say... men have been enjoying sex a lot for a long time without their foreskin. I wouldn't give a damn about female circumcision except that it concerns me that the clit is removed, pretty equal to removing the entire penis. Course if an adult woman wants to have it done and has it done safely, I'm all for her doing what she wants with her body.

There is a fairly good chance if we have a son they will be circumcised, though not in a hospital where they are strapped down.

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RE: DIY Hoodectomy? - 1/30/2008 11:59:31 AM

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Hoodectomys do not remove the clit and is the female equivilent to circumcision.
I am curious though, why would anyone in a modern society, with no religious conviction want or allow their child mutilated?

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RE: DIY Hoodectomy? - 1/30/2008 2:26:15 PM

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Who says I don't have a religious conviction?

I'm personally not up on all the terms regarding female genital modification - I've often the term "female circumcision" refer to removing the clit so I simply used it in that context. I also simply don't see it any more mutilating than piercing a little girl's ears. I feel the term is misapplied as it is a strong loaded that, while no doubt it conveys your feelings, I do not feel applies from a medical standpoint. Of course, others will disagree.

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RE: DIY Hoodectomy? - 1/30/2008 3:50:49 PM

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Who says I don't have a religious conviction?

No idea. I didn;t see anyone say you did or didn't.

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I'm personally not up on all the terms regarding female genital modification - I've often the term "female circumcision" refer to removing the clit so I simply used it in that context. I also simply don't see it any more mutilating than piercing a little girl's ears. I feel the term is misapplied as it is a strong loaded that, while no doubt it conveys your feelings, I do not feel applies from a medical standpoint. Of course, others will disagree.

Female genital mutilation is more multifaceted than male, neither are less nor more.
I agree, piercing a childs - male or female - ears is mutilating also. I never did it.
Most ironic thing? At least the OP - who has been mocked and derided - was speaking about a woman consenting and wanting it done.
Pointless mutilation on an individual without their consent with no firm medical backing is as it stands, whatever the age. It's Mutilation.

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RE: DIY Hoodectomy? - 1/30/2008 4:22:45 PM

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Who says I don't have a religious conviction?

No idea. I didn;t see anyone say you did or didn't.

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I'm personally not up on all the terms regarding female genital modification - I've often the term "female circumcision" refer to removing the clit so I simply used it in that context. I also simply don't see it any more mutilating than piercing a little girl's ears. I feel the term is misapplied as it is a strong loaded that, while no doubt it conveys your feelings, I do not feel applies from a medical standpoint. Of course, others will disagree.

Female genital mutilation is more multifaceted than male, neither are less nor more.
I agree, piercing a childs - male or female - ears is mutilating also. I never did it.
Most ironic thing? At least the OP - who has been mocked and derided - was speaking about a woman consenting and wanting it done.
Pointless mutilation on an individual without their consent with no firm medical backing is as it stands, whatever the age. It's Mutilation.

the.dark.

I must have missed something: no where in any of the OP's posts did I read anything about a woman consenting and wanting it done...except for women he had known of that had it done...certainly no mention of a woman who wanted him to do it to her.

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RE: DIY Hoodectomy? - 1/30/2008 4:33:52 PM

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Yes, I am making an assumption so? - until I hear differently I don't jump on the bandwagon of abuse immediately.
So lets alter my 'statement' then. The OP brought up hoodectomy and did not state whether it was consensual or not. People picking on him for his age and deriding his idea instead of talking it through calmly, is ironic, when I have seen discussions of male circumcision treated as 'ok'.

And children don't get a choice do they?
Either way, its still mutilation.

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RE: DIY Hoodectomy? - 1/30/2008 4:39:58 PM

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Don't want to derail this topic, but seeing as other's have mentioned it.. the best info on male circumcision and how NOT doing it benefits BOTH male and female is here: http://www.circumcision.org/foreskin.htm

**We now return to our regular thread**

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RE: DIY Hoodectomy? - 1/30/2008 6:18:37 PM

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Although many have belittled the very idea of a DIY genital surgery, I've got to ask: Why? Some have suggest to save money, since the OP is young, but I'm young myself, and if I wanted an extreme body modification like that, I damned well would save up the money for it.

Do you want to do it yourself to save money? Worried about finding a kink-friendly doctor? Or is it a power thing?

I'll freely admit that such a drastic measure would never be for me, but I know that vaginal plastic surge
ry is rising in popularity. Why couldn't you simply have a doctor do this?

In my opinion, it would be completely unsafe and unethical to preform such a major procedure yourself. Without medication and proper medical care, such an operation would have an extremely high (I'm thinking like 90%) chance of terrible complications. And I would be unsuprised that when the patient had to seek legit medical care after the surgery that the wannabe surgeon might find himself facing criminal charges based on the state he lived in: either for abuse or some states have a female genital mutilation law, regardless of the patient's wishes.

If the goal of the surgery is the actual procedure, I would suggest finding a kink-friendly body-modification expert with as much experience as possible who might be able to let you participate some how, ensure you can still get your kicks without endangering someone's life and body as much. I would also suggest, if this option was chosen, that you investigate the laws in your state, and have this procedure done in a state where it wouldn't be illegal so you could seek medical care you get proper sutures, antibacterial washing, and medication after the mod was done.

Also, I suggest you think on this. For years. If a girl agrees, make her wait a year before she actually gets it done so she has a chance to think on the consequences. Ick.

Edited because I'm too stupid to spell-check.

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