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RE: A Little Broken--A Very Touchy Question - 2/3/2008 8:43:57 PM   
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always thought UM meant underage minors...i can't keep up with the acronyms

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RE: A Little Broken--A Very Touchy Question - 2/4/2008 7:04:48 AM   
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Send a teddy bear to the house for God's sake. And new baby books for him to read out loud. Hell, send him a bottle of scotch to have a drink from when he gets home.



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RE: A Little Broken--A Very Touchy Question - 2/4/2008 7:17:37 AM   
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quote:

Hopefully I'll get through it with the most minimal amount of tears.


It's still about you.

I had a teenager who had two lung surgeries in the span of 4 months.  He was in the hospital for 5 days, each time.  I can tell you that if someone had been making any sort of demands on me or pulling "poor me " crap, I would've told them I had much bigger things going on in my life and I wouldn't have cared.  It's not all about you, please learn something through all of this.


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RE: A Little Broken--A Very Touchy Question - 2/4/2008 7:40:30 AM   
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Don't you understand?  I've tried contacting Him.  I've tried to send things, but without His address at hand and without the room number let alone the hospital, I'm at a loss. 

I've tried...and yáll're still making it seem like my fault.  I did everything I could to try and smooth things over.  The ball literally is in His court because my hands are tied.


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RE: A Little Broken--A Very Touchy Question - 2/4/2008 8:07:21 AM   
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Why, after six months, do you not know his address? If the relationship was as serious as you believed it was, wouldn't you know his address, or at least how to find it?
But, of course, that point is moot as well. Because as some of the others have said, if he wanted to contact you, he would.
It's time to walk away with your head held high, and some dignity salvaged.
(if my um's were having an operation, you can bet, I'd be leaning on HoneyMaster for support instead of ignoring Him.)
Good luck, hun.

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RE: A Little Broken--A Very Touchy Question - 2/4/2008 8:12:47 AM   
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Don't you understand?


I understand that he probably needs some space at this point and that if you cared for him you would be more concerned about making things easier for him than worrying about how much you are going to cry and how all of this will affect you.


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RE: A Little Broken--A Very Touchy Question - 2/4/2008 9:01:31 AM   
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ORIGINAL: MeliciousProse

Don't you understand?  I've tried contacting Him.  I've tried to send things, but without His address at hand and without the room number let alone the hospital, I'm at a loss. 

I've tried...and yáll're still making it seem like my fault.  I did everything I could to try and smooth things over.  The ball literally is in His court because my hands are tied.



The advice others gave was, obviously, well intentioned.  I think much of it was dead wrong though.

He doesnt' want gifts.  He doesn't want packages.  He doesn't want 'reassuring' phone calls.  He wants to be left alone, to deal with issues that he doesn't feel comfortable enough with you to discuss.  Instead of patiently awaiting him, you have invested a huge portion of yourself into a relationship with him that clearly doesn't exist.

The man works hellish hours to care for his family, and sees you when he can.  It's obviously not enough for you.  You're in love with the idea of a realationship that you don't really have with him.  Are you a bad person for it?  Of course not!  But you're not really focused on his needs, you're angry because yours aren't being met.

Again, this boils down to really two options; either you accept the relationship the way it has been, that the minimal contact he desires with you must be enough, or you accept that you need to find someone else who better meets your needs.  Expecting him to change, or painting him as the inconsiderate party here belies your anger and lack of self-esteem. 

I'm not saying this without compassion; it's bitter medicine to swallow, that you don't like yourself enough to engage in a relationship that makes you happy.  Yet, the attitudes you've taken towards this man suggest you really really really need to work on being happy with yourself first before you have any genuine hope of being the compassionate loving partner he needs right now.  Frankly, look over all the posts you've made on this topic.  When have you expressed any concern for how he feels?  Where do you mention how you understand what he's going through?  Where have you made a post that didn't scream 'pity me because my partner doesnt' care about me.'

It sounds like you've got plenty on your plate you need to take care of, for you.  Until you're willing to face those facts, every single man you enter a relationship will treat you the same way.

Good luck, and honest well wishes,

Stephan


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RE: A Little Broken--A Very Touchy Question - 2/4/2008 12:47:33 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: xxblushesxx

Why, after six months, do you not know his address? If the relationship was as serious as you believed it was, wouldn't you know his address, or at least how to find it?
But, of course, that point is moot as well. Because as some of the others have said, if he wanted to contact you, he would.
It's time to walk away with your head held high, and some dignity salvaged.
(if my um's were having an operation, you can bet, I'd be leaning on HoneyMaster for support instead of ignoring Him.)
Good luck, hun.

~Christina


I'm one of those people that when I'm going through trials that I can't contorol I tend to withdrawl from as many people as I can until I can get a grip.  It's partially so I can use all my enegry where it's needed and it's partially so that I don't snap at those that don't deserve it.

Of course when I was 20 something I'd just vanish, but I have learned to tell people when I hit these lows.

When you have someone in your life that will push aside their seemingly trivial problems and help you through what seems like an insurmountable crisis, they are cherished indeed, but when someone says "yeah, I feel your pain, but listen to my blather..." they are the first to go and I rarely feel guilty about their hurt feelings.

ETA: when my son had surgery when he was 4 I didn't make contact with anyone until he was jumping out of trees again.  My sister and mother called and got a 30 second update once, when they called.  I couldn't think past my child's pain and what I could do to make him better.

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RE: A Little Broken--A Very Touchy Question - 2/4/2008 1:59:26 PM   
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Take this or discard it.  But it is my impression.
It wouldnt matter whether you were 24 or 42 - get a bit of maturity.  You are trying to control the relationship when you have shown on this thread that you have little control of yourself.  Get that sorted out first.  The man has a child to think of, you hardly measure on the scale in comparrison.  Leave the man be.  No ultimatums.  No presents.  No calls.  Just sit it out and wait - unless he isn't worth your wait in which case say goodbye.
I can see how I worded this might look a bit harsh, but it is written with best wishes.
 
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RE: A Little Broken--A Very Touchy Question - 2/4/2008 4:08:24 PM   
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Not being rude but...

I read enough...don't you think it would be wiser to focus on your self esteem before you decide to attempt to become anyone's anything. You're rude to discuss him here in such a manner, it makes you look more the fool when and if you do go back to him.

Maybe he is testing to see how emotionally secure you are, imagine if you disappointed him and he punishment or disciplined you in some fashion, not necessarily physical, Would you be able to keep it together?... No? I didn't think so.

Step back take a breather and enjoy the week, continue living and stop worrying, if you don't hear from him in a week call him but try to be a bit more respectful, maybe you will get better results.

If he isn't interested bow out gracefully, some relationships just aren't meant to be, nothing wrong with enjoying life till the right one comes along. I found with each new experience with someone it made me that much more knowledgeable. Learn and grow...

Good luck


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RE: A Little Broken--A Very Touchy Question - 2/4/2008 4:12:26 PM   
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well...i spend 7-10 days each month with Him at His home although He was just here with me for a week (we live in different provinces) and we speak on the phone nightly...usually for at least an hour and usually longer, depending on how tired each of us is and what the shedule is for the next day...also depending on His mood.

i would not be happy with such limited contact...best wishes to you...

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RE: A Little Broken--A Very Touchy Question - 2/5/2008 6:16:45 AM   
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For those of You/you who were concerned, I thought I'd update You on the status of our relationship. 

He called last night and we finally sat down and talked.  His reason for pulling back so much:  He got scared of how deep He was in this relationship.  So?  For now, we're going to take it slow.  His heart's still healing from His ex-wife and I can understand that completely.  We're both going to make the effort to be better to each other. 

Thank you for the concern and the sympathies...  I think we'll work this out.

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RE: A Little Broken--A Very Touchy Question - 2/5/2008 1:28:44 PM   
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Listen; from someone who's been there, done that...be VERY careful with this person. I wouldn't be surprised if he ended up getting back together with his ex, and even if he doesn't, usually the first one a guy dates after a break up is just kind of a transitional gf.
I DO wish you well.
I also wish you would get out and meet others while he's 'healing'.
Good luck!

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RE: A Little Broken--A Very Touchy Question - 2/6/2008 3:49:13 PM   
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ORIGINAL: MeliciousProse

When a Dom and slave establish a relationship, they draw up goals, create rules, chart out expectations and things of that nature.  This makes sense to this girl. 
When a Dom has outside responsibilities, it is, in this girl's opinion, the slave's responsibility to have a great deal of patience.  The relationship of that kind of strain would not work out if she did not. 
When a Dom is not necessesarily financially able to afford expensive gear and things of that nature, it is the slave's responsibility to understand and have even more patience.  We are human, we have things we must deal with.  All this girl understands.
And when a Dom, who has children, work, and financial difficulties takes on a slave, it is still His responsibility to give her at least a minimal amount of attention if He is to retain her respect and loyalty. 

It's been seventy-two hours since this girl has spoken to her Dom from the moment He said she was smothering Him. 
The Facts: 
  1. Their physical time spent together is maybe once a week.  she hasn't seen Him in almost two. 
  2. Their time on the phone, the only time when physical means of seeing one another is not an option, has been a total of fifteen minutes.
  3. The confusing fact:  Two weeks before, He gave her a set of His car keys and was having a set of His house keys made for her. 

Now, while this girl completely understands His situation at home, she has made it as clear as possible, that all that she expects of Him, all that she requests of Him, begs of Him, is that He make the effort to speak with her once a night.  girl has spoken to many slaves and even a few Doms about this.  They all agree that this is NOT a lot to ask for. 
What would possess a Dom to make these great gestures of a commitment and then claim she's smothering Him?  What advice do You have for girl? 

-Sighs.-  This girl is at a loss.



Pardon me if I sound a bit harsh but two questions come to mind in regards to your post:

1.  Is more contact something you need, or something you want?
2.  Is being patient defined by your wants?

Consider your answers to these questions.  Perhaps he is asking himself the very same questions, Ive just asked you.  He may feel that you are demanding attention rather than appreciative of the attention already bestowed on you.

LBO

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RE: A Little Broken--A Very Touchy Question - 2/6/2008 3:53:47 PM   
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ORIGINAL: MeliciousProse
For those of You/you who were concerned, I thought I'd update You on the status of our relationship. 

He called last night and we finally sat down and talked.  His reason for pulling back so much:  He got scared of how deep He was in this relationship.  So?  For now, we're going to take it slow.  His heart's still healing from His ex-wife and I can understand that completely.  We're both going to make the effort to be better to each other. 

Thank you for the concern and the sympathies...  I think we'll work this out.


Huh wow, for a moment I thought I was reading a reposting of my reply which was POST #2 on this whole thread.

Chica you've both got commitment and trust issues if this thread showed you nothing but that.  I'm sad for the child who has to deal with that.

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RE: A Little Broken--A Very Touchy Question - 2/6/2008 4:36:43 PM   
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This is not really a reply to your post....but I want to thank you for coming to MaliciousProse"s defense.

Some take exception to her age and reiterate the old cliche that they are older and should be listened to.
Some take exception to her use of  "third speak" and blame that for the reason her Dom has not contacted her.
Some are telling her to stand up for herself and get on with life...while others say she's topping from the bottom.

She become an excuse for you folks to vent your own issues, and in the process have put her on the spot to defend herself.

Give the girl a break for christ's sake. She's confused, hurt and is seeking some form of sympathy. If this happened to one of your friends here, one that is popular, you would be all over her with sympathy and support.

A few of you have offered up some appropriate advice, (without much in the way of sympathy though), but that's something, but the rest of you insufferable assholes get my boot.


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RE: A Little Broken--A Very Touchy Question - 2/6/2008 4:45:46 PM   
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Mel,
he might be the greatest guy in the world BUT even if he is, it isnt worth compramising your own happiness. He needs space let him have his space, stay in touch but like others have suggested keep yourself open to other possibilities. I dont doubt for one second that you love him, and he probably loves you also. But in saying that, you are both having to work far to hard at this relationship (not saying that relationships are easy ) it would seem you are in different places in your life. If he truly is the ONE then you will find each other when the time is right.

But speaking from my own experience here, time and again I settled, I made the same comments, excuses as you, I have run the gauntlet of emotions not all that different to what you described, untill eventually I decided that MY needs had to be in important, I needed to realise that if something is meant to be it will be. And you know what as soon as I started believing and understanding that I found him, my MR PERFECT. Someone whose expectations of a relationship were the same as mine, someone who enjoyed paying me the amount of attention I craved and likewise loved me calling and texting often.

My Sir lives in another state a 16 hour drive away (2 hour flight with a 1 1/2 hour drive tacked onto that) but he makes every effort to see me every couple of weeks, we talk every day at least twice, texts msn ect. I am a single mum of 4 who is studying, he works full time and runs his own business. We still find time to talk because we WANT to because it is what we both NEED.

Mel what I am trying to say here is that people who want the same as you exisit, dont close you heart to them you may be surprised what could be round the corner.

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