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RE: Nipple Peircing - 7/23/2004 8:07:13 PM

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I don't know if that's true across the board. I have extremely sensitive nipples. Little itty bitty 18 or 20 guage needles through them make me scream like someone is cutting my arm off or something, and there are teeth impressions in a knife sheath 3 yrs later as evidence of how much it hurts. A 12 or 14 guage needle through my nipple is a barely tolerable thought. Yet, I know guys who can do it (or rather, have it done to them) without blinking an eye.

I really don't think it's a gender issue. I think it's very individual, just like most everything else. I have a pretty high pain tolerance, or so I've been told, but needles through my nipples REALLY FREAKING HURTS!

I had my nipples pierced in 2001 because I wanted the benefit of wearing the jewelry. Oh yeah...he said, "It's going to hurt a little bit, just look at me." Uh huh...it felt like he was ramming a freaking railroad spike through my nipple!!!

Oh and I've had five babies, all natural childbirth. Not the same thing.
I'm with Sherri, there's pain, and then there's pain. It's very individual, and then it might have something to do with location, location, location!!!

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RE: Nipple Peircing - 7/23/2004 10:20:18 PM

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Lady Beckett,
If it's all right and not too personal, did you breastfeed after you had your nipples done? If so, did it complicate anything?

From all I've read it shouldn't be a problem as long as the jewelry is removed, but again, information slut.

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RE: Nipple Peircing - 7/24/2004 4:47:24 AM

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I think the reccomendation is to avoid pools and things of that nature, but you can swim at the beach and the salt water was good for healing.

The piercing itself was not painful for me at all, and the one time I had nipple clamps put on me on the lightest setting I screamed (I did get 2 labia piercings seconds before, so I was still in horrible pain from those and may not have realized it). I can say that after getting them pierced my nipple sensitivity shot through the roof. Rubbing against someone while wearing 3 layers of clothing over them still felt really good!

I think I used hibiclense (sp) soap with them or some type of antibacterial soap with no dyes or fragrances.

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RE: Nipple Peircing - 7/24/2004 5:53:12 AM

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It would only be "too personal" if you were the one I were breastfeeding, and then it would only be "too personal" for this board.

But then again.....

My children range in age from 32 to soon to be 16, so by the time I had my nipples pierced, they had all been weaned for quite some time. However I absolutely enjoy attention to my breasts, of the loving, worshipping variety. No bondage or nipple torture!

And I do still lactate, which occurs on a "demand/supply" basis. My nipples are not "large" and do not "protrude" noticably unless I am cold, or aroused. He used ice to numb them a bit before piercing, which also got them to "stand up" during the piercing.

The lactation had no negative affect on the piercing whatsoever. I never had a problem. I kept them clean, rotated the rings often, and found that during "play" it was everything I had "heard" about, expected, and more. After "play", washing with warm, soapy water, and rinsing well insured no problems. I never removed my jewelry, but rather kept it clean, and rotated. It really just depends on you and your partner, and what is comfortable for you.

I removed them due to a non-related health problem. They required me to remove them for some tests, and I got tired of taking them out, putting them back in....so ultimately I left them out. I will not go through the piercing again!!! Unless, of course, there is a "painless" method. lol

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RE: Nipple Peircing - 7/24/2004 10:00:01 AM

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Thank you very much, everyone.

I will hopefully be getting them done within the next week or so, and can't -wait-. i tend to heal fast and am not allergic to anything I know of, so....

*crosses fingers*

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RE: Nipple Peircing - 7/24/2004 10:36:30 AM

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I think the reccomendation is to avoid pools and things of that nature, but you can swim at the beach and the salt water was good for healing.

The salt is good for healing, but the problem with ocean water is it has all sorts of living organisms (some not good) which really enjoy living in a salt solution (like blood).

So if you do go swimming in the ocean, I would recommend you cover the piercings with neosporin when you get out so you dont exacerbate the problem.

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RE: Nipple Peircing - 7/24/2004 3:54:37 PM

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The salt is good for healing, but the problem with ocean water is it has all sorts of living organisms (some not good) which really enjoy living in a salt solution (like blood).

So if you do go swimming in the ocean, I would recommend you cover the piercings with neosporin when you get out so you dont exacerbate the problem.

I dont know how healthy swimming in the ocean is in reality or not, just that the piercer reccomended it, but I know that they specifically told me never to use neosporin or any type of gel type substance on them at all for the first 6 months since it wont let it get oxygen and can promote bacteria growth and infection. At least thats the reason I think they gave. Cant remember what they said anymore, but I specifically remember asking about neosporin and something else and they said under no circumstances should they be used while healing.

Maybe avoiding swimming altogether for the first 6 months is a good plan.

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RE: Nipple Peircing - 7/24/2004 6:57:30 PM

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I was told to avoid creams/ointments/gels also, but to rotate the rings frequently. Especially in the first few days. Ouch! I figured out that rotating them under the water in the shower worked incredibly well, and virtually painlessly. Therefore, during the day, having a high tap in the kitchen sink, I would simply turn it on, and rotate, rotate, rotate. lol

Don't know about the ocean...salt water is good for anything, and promotes healing, but right from the ocean???? I'm thinking that may contain a few things not invited!

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RE: Nipple Peircing - 7/24/2004 11:11:40 PM

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I was told to avoid creams/ointments/gels also, but to rotate the rings frequently. Especially in the first few days. Ouch! I figured out that rotating them under the water in the shower worked incredibly well, and virtually painlessly. Therefore, during the day, having a high tap in the kitchen sink, I would simply turn it on, and rotate, rotate, rotate. lol

Rotating is bad, bad, bad! Rotating a ring in a fresh piercing can introduce bacteria and irritants (like some of that crusty material you're washing away) into the piercing and is never good. Think of it as pulling a tiny cheese grater in there, scraping and gouging the healing tissue.

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RE: Nipple Peircing - 7/24/2004 11:15:42 PM

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The piercer i had told me to use the "dial - gold - anti bacterial soap". Put that on your fingers while rotating the ring that way to avoid any infections.

For the life of me, i couldnt think of the word rotate the other day - thanks!

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RE: Nipple Peircing - 7/24/2004 11:25:17 PM

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My nipples were pierced for 5 or 6 years. Like Beckett, I had a period of taking a lot of tests that required they be out. I got lazy and left them out too long. It's been almost two years since I stopped wearing my jewelry and I miss it. Also like Beckett, I'm not sure I'd want to deal with the pain of the piercing again, but I'm not adverse to the notion of using a topical anesthetic. I have some really nice handmade shields and an assortment of other pieces I miss wearing.

I've probably permanently pierced two dozen or so people (nipples). Most pro piercers will tell you that you should pierce with a ring because it's 'easier to keep clean' and the aftercare is a serious commitment. I strongly disagree. I have seen so many people who had healing times of 6, 9, 12 months or more using rings. Barbells that are too long (the objective is to be able to move the barbell far enough in either direction that you would be able to work soap and salt water all the way through it) have proven infinitely easier to heal, in my experience. It makes sense, really. The piercing is a straight hole, a ring is round. No matter how you size the ring you're still going to get pulling down on the outter edges and pushing up in the center of the peircing. My nipples were originally done with 12g rings. After a YEAR of committed aftercare I went down to a 14g barbell and they healed in two weeks. But your piercer is going to tell you 'rings.' The only piercers I've ever spoken to who say 'overly long barbells' are women who are also pierced. Take that for what it's worth to you. If you do decide to go with barbells be aware of them when you put your seatbelt on or you're gonna get a surprise!

Antibiotic ointments and the like are best kept away unless you actually have an infection. Even with the best aftercare it can happen. Always wash your hands well with antibacterial soap (fragrance free) before handling your piercing (when I was in nursing school they said if you didn't work the soap in for at least 15 seconds then you probably weren't getting the full benefit of the wash). The 'crust' that develops on the jewelry is also attached to your nipple. It's your body trying to make a scab. If you turn the jewelry when it's dry and/or crusty you are effectively ripping the scab off. Not a good way to try to heal. Your best bet is to soak the piercing in warm water until it softens. The shower is great for this, but you should clean a couple times a day (get used to showers a couple times a day if you don't already). Once the crust is soft then you can remove anything dead, soap it up and work the soap through the piercing; then repeat with clean water until you've gotten the soap out. Then take a tablespoon of sea salt (the kind you can buy in the grocery store works fine as long as it's SEA salt) and dilute it with just enough warm water to liquify it. Then work this salt water through the piercing, let it sit a few minutes and rinse. It will probably sting a bit for a while. When it stops stinging you know you are healing. Avoid the temptation to play with them (not just s/m...fingering, fondling, playing with the jewelry, etc) until they are healed. This will not only reduce the chance of infection, but it will also not 'tear the scab' as I mentioned earlier.

If you intend to play with your piercings after they have healed...weights, bondage, the like...then you probably won't want to go smaller than 14g (think cheese slicer), but if you have extremely small nipples and don't intend to pierce into the areola then a lighter gauge might work better for you.

I originally did mine to increase my sensitivity and I found that it worked, but after about 3 or 4 years I was accustomed to it.

Hope this helps.

Suz

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RE: Nipple Peircing - 7/25/2004 3:20:38 AM

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i have been told barbells to but by a dom who pierced his own sub, he even said instead of using a rign later there are barbells with a u shaped attachment, that give the impression of a D-ring would be better. also bars would prevent migrating more efficiently than rings. now sinc ei put a ring in my hood after about 6 weeks with my initial bar ( and it's a very large ring) i am sor tof hooked to rings, i always said if nipples pierced than never a ring as bars show less but i somehow like the idea of rings now so much. my nipple saren't pierced yet but will be in the nearer rather than later future.

but i won't let master do it without anaestetics as i know how much needle shurt in my nipples and i got a hard time holding still and i really want them to be perfect, ie both exactle the same so i decided that will only work without pain and me lying down as i tend to faint to.

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RE: Nipple Peircing - 7/25/2004 7:21:54 AM

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Hiya stef, and a belated welcome to the collarme message boards. I've seen you about, and I'm so glad you're with us!

About those nipple rings: Certainly if one were to simply commence "rotating" without any preliminaries at all, that would be the case. And that "crusty material" on a fresh piercing would hurt. I also used something else that may be considered a bit unconventional, and that is aloe. I always keep a plant, either in the kitchen, or somewhere in the garden, if I happen to have one (in my travels). I would keep a washed leaf in a ziplock in the fridgedaire, and after washing would put a drop or two on the ring and rotate it. That worked very well for me.

The "after care" was not a problem, and within two days I was fine, with no discomfort. I would have it re-done if the actual "doing" weren't so damned painful! lol

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RE: Nipple Peircing - 7/25/2004 9:29:48 AM

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Hrm...
I'm planning to peirce at 10 or 12 gauge. Probably 12. I like the look of larger rings, and I've been told there's less chance of migration.

Similarly, I was told rings are less likely to migrate than bars...I'll have to ask. I know I personally want rings, because I like the look, and the other peircings I have have healed faster with rings as opposed to bars. Granted, those aren't nipples, so we'll see.

I know where to get jewelry though, so if the rings don't heal I can switch to bars. I've just personally had better luck with drainage, air getting to the pericing, etc with rings. Again, though, gonna talk to the peircer.

It was recomended that I get lavander oil (medical grade) to put on the peircigns after washing to lubricate them and encourage healing. I can't figure out where I'd get it though, anyone know?

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RE: Nipple Peircing - 7/25/2004 10:03:06 AM

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The "after care" was not a problem, and within two days I was fine, with no discomfort. I would have it re-done if the actual "doing" weren't so damned painful! lol

you just made my decision easier with those two days

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RE: Nipple Peircing - 7/25/2004 10:04:09 AM

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It was recomended that I get lavander oil (medical grade) to put on the peircigns after washing to lubricate them and encourage healing. I can't figure out where I'd get it though, anyone know?

how bout trying a chemist?

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RE: Nipple Peircing - 7/25/2004 10:18:54 AM

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It was recomended that I get lavander oil (medical grade) to put on the peircigns after washing to lubricate them and encourage healing. I can't figure out where I'd get it though, anyone know?

A young woman that was visiting "Doc" (the male that did the piercing for me), mentioned that as she was on her way out the door. I've looked around, and even asked at several pharmacies, but they don't seem to know where to get it either. I'd definitly be interested in knowing where to get it also.

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RE: Nipple Peircing - 7/25/2004 10:32:21 AM

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Hiya stef, and a belated welcome to the collarme message boards. I've seen you about, and I'm so glad you're with us!

Thank you!

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About those nipple rings: Certainly if one were to simply commence "rotating" without any preliminaries at all, that would be the case. And that "crusty material" on a fresh piercing would hurt.

I think most people get into trouble because they don't let the initial 'flesh tunnel' to generate before rotating the rings. The newly forming tissue has a tendency to adhere to the piercing jewelry for the first day or two until it builds up enough to where it won't tear so easily.

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I also used something else that may be considered a bit unconventional, and that is aloe. I always keep a plant, either in the kitchen, or somewhere in the garden, if I happen to have one (in my travels). I would keep a washed leaf in a ziplock in the fridgedaire, and after washing would put a drop or two on the ring and rotate it. That worked very well for me.

That's pretty interesting. I'm glad it worked for you.

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The "after care" was not a problem, and within two days I was fine, with no discomfort. I would have it re-done if the actual "doing" weren't so damned painful! lol

I keep debating getting mine re-done but I haven't reached the breaking point yet :)

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RE: Nipple Peircing - 7/25/2004 10:44:15 AM

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It was recomended that I get lavander oil (medical grade) to put on the peircigns after washing to lubricate them and encourage healing. I can't figure out where I'd get it though, anyone know?

Unless you're in Europe where essential oils are available at a pharmacy, there's no such thing as "medical grade". In the US, essential oils aren't regulated. You can buy them from natural food stores, health food stores, etc, but the ones you get there are generally junk, imnsho. You need to find a reputable supplier, who will give you gc/ms specs for the oils, identify the oils by botanical names (there are a LOT of different lavender's, for example, all with different properties), will tell you the origin of the oil, including harvest date, etc.

Any reputable aromatherapist would NOT recommend putting any EO, even lavender, on an open wound. You ALWAYS wait until the wound has healed before applying eo's. Also, dilute, dilute, dilute. 2.5% in a good carrier oil is generally enough. Any more than 5% is serious overkill. For some of the more potent oils dermal application isn't recommended at all, or only at dilutions of .5% to 1%.

I can give you links to some very good essential oil suppliers, but please do NOT put eo's (even gentle ones like lavender or tea tree) on an open wound. Lavender isn't the best eo for promoting healing anyway. You'd be better off with helichrysum italicum in a base of rose hip seed oil, if you're trying to encourage healing, or one of the antibacterial oils if you're trying to avoid infection.

I'd recommend avoiding the health food store oils as they tend to be adulterated. Oh, and if you see anyone hawking Young Living Essential Oils, run in the other direction as fast as you can. Their oils are substandard quality and sold by a notorious MLM that has no scruples - overpriced for poor quality.

IMNSHO, ymmv, yada yada yada.

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RE: Nipple Peircing - 7/25/2004 10:55:14 AM

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Hi I originally had mine done 5 years ago and a dominant i met, had me remove the rings and overnight, they inner area closed up. Well 4 years later the holes had still not fully closed and i decided to reclaim them and recently had them repierced.

The repiercing did hurt quite a bit as they had to go thru scar tissue. So YEOW was one thing of many things i said during the procedure. The other thing i remember vividly was the amazing sensations they caused the nipple. and i made sure i brought a bra with me and had to wear it 24/7 for at least the first week. i gained quite a bit of sensativity from them and love it, i cant wait until they heal enough so that i can someday have them played with.

As far as cleaning goes, my doctor recommended peroxide. and i always used sea salt and water. So on the advice of a knowledgeable friend, i am alternating the use of these What i found works best for me is to add sea salt and water in a small cup and place it upside down over the area to get the area saturated. Then carefully i soak a q tip in the mix and clean the gunk around the openings of the ring so i get the crusties off. Do not turn the rings with them as others have said it will cause tearing. Do this to both sides a number of times a day.

I decided after waiting 6 long weeks, to go into the hot tub. It is treated and maintained well, i made sure i took a shower before going in and cleaned them very well. Then i went in and the next day they appeared to be a little better. Keep cleaning and turning, and you should be fine. i love mine it doesnt take much for me to purr now a days, and when they heal i am sure the harder play will be just as good!

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