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RE: Nipple Peircing - 7/25/2004 11:09:40 AM

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Unless you're in Europe where essential oils are available at a pharmacy, there's no such thing as "medical grade". In the US, essential oils aren't regulated.

Did not know this. The site I was referencing was based in Europe, but I didn't know rules differed. Thank you and I know what not to do now.

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RE: Nipple Peircing - 7/25/2004 11:49:56 AM

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i have been told barbells to but by a dom who pierced his own sub, he even said instead of using a rign later there are barbells with a u shaped attachment, that give the impression of a D-ring would be better. also bars would prevent migrating more efficiently than rings. now sinc ei put a ring in my hood after about 6 weeks with my initial bar ( and it's a very large ring) i am sor tof hooked to rings, i always said if nipples pierced than never a ring as bars show less but i somehow like the idea of rings now so much. my nipple saren't pierced yet but will be in the nearer rather than later future. but i won't let master do it without anaestetics as i know how much needle shurt in my nipples and i got a hard time holding still and i really want them to be perfect, ie both exactle the same so i decided that will only work without pain and me lying down as i tend to faint to.

Both of my hood piercings were with rings. They healed very quickly, within weeks. My nipples were not so cooperative.

As for the curved barbells, they are an alternative but they only seem to make placing the beads easier than a captive bead ring. I found that barbells with stirrups attached were quite attractive, allowed for at least as much play as a ring (no bead to pop out) and were 'different.'

You probably should be sitting up when the piercing happens, with your back held at a normal but good posture. Otherwise the chance of getting them less than straight when you are standing or sitting increases. You might find that sitting someplace where you can lay down after the piercing has been done will be most beneficial for you.

Best of luck to you with it.

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RE: Nipple Peircing - 7/25/2004 11:53:32 AM

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I have a friend who says there are needles designed for cardiac surgery that are sharp all the way around the business end, rather than just at the tip; and that these would be best for getting through scar tissue. I have no personal experience with this, but it sounds reasonable to me.

Your post has me really wanting to get mine redone, although I still think I will go with the topical anesthetic when I do it. I suffered for them the first time, I have the experience, I'm not dying to do it again.

I MISS MY JEWELRY!

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RE: Nipple Peircing - 7/25/2004 1:36:45 PM

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I keep debating getting mine re-done but I haven't reached the breaking point yet :)

I wasn't, until this thread, and I saw Suz's jewelry. *sniff* I miss mine too...lol.

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RE: Nipple Peircing - 7/25/2004 1:37:17 PM

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I MISS MY JEWELRY!

Oh i love that MizSuz, do they make any jewelry for non pierced ones?

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RE: Nipple Peircing - 7/25/2004 4:10:49 PM

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I'm afraid I picked that up at one of the Boston Fleas a number of years ago and never got their card (or did and then lost it). I wish I could direct you more than that, but I'm afraid I can't.

It would be difficult to keep on if you weren't pierced. Most nipple shields function as stretchers (it's one way to keep those bad boys (girls?) sensitive). When you buy a shield pay attention to how convex it is. The greater the angle, or shape of the 'cone,' the more it's going to stretch your nipple.

I'll do a websearch and see if I can pull something comparable up, though. If you don't hear from me it means I couldn't find anything.

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RE: Nipple Peircing - 7/25/2004 8:06:09 PM

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"Hello"......... i love readin the posts here lotza interesting subjectz.
5 years ago my daughters for Mothers day gave me back the gift of sensitivity in my breasts by having my nipples pierced. Now 30 and 25 i fed both of my daughters for the first 2 years of their lives. This gift was to restore what may have been lost after breast feeding 4 children.
My nipple rings are a symbol to me of eternal motherhood...... my Dom 1 loves them too...... *smiles
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RE: Nipple Peircing - 8/5/2004 9:40:47 AM

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All right, I got my nipples done three days ago now, and in light of all the excelent advice I recieved, I thought I'd post my experiences.

First off, it hurt a -lot- much more than I expected. It was a situation where, if I didn't want them so badly, I would have said "hell no" after the first one.

My peircers were excellent. THey're the tops of one of my best friends, but this was the first time I'd met them. He sat down and talked me through everything he was going to do, explained everything, let me ask questions. I got all my aftercare questions answered first. When his partner came home, he told me of his experiences. (The guy who peirced me has done 10 peircings on his lover, so the lover could tell me a bit of what to expect)

They used a numbing thing on my nipples, nominally to make 'em less sensitive, but I couldn't tell the difference.

The clamps DID hurt worst. However, it was a clamp hurt, which is something I'm very familiar with. So the actual peircing was horrible. I got the first one peirce with a 14 gauge needle and it went through easily and that was done.

The second one, however, was harder. He peirced it, no problem, but the ring wouldn't guide through. THey played with it for about 5 minutes (felt much longer) and it started to bleed quite a bit (he'd told me it wouldn't bleed.) After that he said that they could continue to play with it, or they could just re-peirce.

So....as the messing around hurt worse than anything, I told them just to re-peirce. But I had to sit for a while, so I wouldn't pass out.

The second time hurt MUCH worse than the first, but he got it through and I neither screamed nor cried.

Turns out, in fear of having it not go through a second time, he'd done it with a 12 gauge needle. I could tell :)

Endorphins didn't hit me till well after both peircings were done, which sucked, but made me feel like I was drunk.

But now that the pain's over, I have two beautiful rings. THey ache, but it's very bearable and the healing looks like it's going well. I'm being very careful to take care of them properly, b/c I don't want to mess with infections.

Thanks again for takling to me and being so nice. It hurt like a bitch but was totally worth it!

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RE: Nipple Peircing - 8/5/2004 8:55:08 PM

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congrats!! you did better than i did. When i had gotten mine pierced, i screamed on both of them. It really is very painful.

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RE: Nipple Peircing - 8/5/2004 9:31:57 PM

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Congrats on the piercings! Good luck with those rings (I told ya they'd tell you it 'should' be rings). If you find after 6 months that it's not healing well enough have someone switch them out to long barbells. I promise you it will make a difference. Not everyone has problems with rings, I hope that is the case for you (it certainly wasn't for me).

When I got mine done I did yell FUCK rather loudly. Like you, I wasn't sure I wanted the second one after getting the first. But I did it. Like you, the second one was more difficult to get the needle through.

Bleeding does happen occasionally (you're putting a hole through your body...bleeding can happen). I'm glad you hung in there and didn't let it alarm you. GOOD JOB!

Enjoy your jewelry, you've earned it!

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RE: Nipple Peircing - 8/5/2004 10:45:04 PM

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Congrats on the piercings! Good luck with those rings (I told ya they'd tell you it 'should' be rings). If you find after 6 months that it's not healing well enough have someone switch them out to long barbells. I promise you it will make a difference. Not everyone has problems with rings, I hope that is the case for you (it certainly wasn't for me).

When I got mine done I did yell FUCK rather loudly. Like you, I wasn't sure I wanted the second one after getting the first. But I did it. Like you, the second one was more difficult to get the needle through.

Bleeding does happen occasionally (you're putting a hole through your body...bleeding can happen). I'm glad you hung in there and didn't let it alarm you. GOOD JOB!

Enjoy your jewelry, you've earned it!

Thank you :)

He actually -did- say that he (generally) prefers barbells. I thought of you. Rings is an aesthetic choice, but also one for ease of cleaning, I've just had better luck overall with them, and don't want to tempt fate by doing something I'm not used to y'know?

I think the sheer -volume- of blood that there was surprised me, but it was mostly due to doing two holes, instead of just one. The first holes (without the rings) bled.

I know it's just been a while, but they're doing remarkably well. I'm being extra careful with aftercare, b/c I want them to be useable as soon as possible.

But jesus, I didn't realize how many times in a given day my nipples get hard. I _FEEL_ every time they change states now. It's......shocking.

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RE: Nipple Peircing - 8/6/2004 3:57:31 PM

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My wife pierced hers years ago. It was intensely painful for her and she nearly passed out when the second one was done.

This is a woman who slept about 5 hours during an 8 hour tatoo session with two people tatooing her together. She also had a hood piercing and didn't think that was a big deal.

The healing process is always slow, but for her, it was especially so. Lots of daily care. Her's rejected as Zoycite mentioned. The rings just gradually migrated closer to the surface until the skil above was so thin we were afraid it would tear. At that point we had to just take them out. Now she has little linear scars in the path of migration on each side of each nipple. They are actually quite sexy. An added bonus is that she has always been self-concious of her small nipples and they aren't quite as small anymore.

Despite the problems, she eventually wants to try again. This time, she will do one nipple at a time. She usually sleeps on her side and last time she was unable to sleep on either side for several months which was not a good thing. She would roll over in her sleep and wake up very suddenly ;-0 She figures if it's just one side, she can learn not to roll over on it.

Hers never really healed o the point where we could play with them much, but just having them did leave her very, very wet more often than usual.

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RE: Nipple Peircing - 8/17/2004 6:12:24 AM

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I have deep set piercings that were chosen intentionally with play. I would definately chose your piercer with great care and discuss what you wish to use them for. We found that being open about the desire for them to be sturdy didn't raise an eyebrow at all. He was very informative and helpful.

In my case having large breasts, he suggested a deeply curved captive bead bar versus a rings. The deep set piercing is done from one side of the nipple then down under in literally a deep curve fully beneath the nipple itself. I spent a lot of time talking to friends that also were pierced and the majority confirmed his suggestion. Piercings in a large breast seem to do better with the bar and captive bead for every day wear. After healing is achieved, you could do what works for me and wear your rings when indicated by your partner for play or for parties. The bars don't catch on clothing, get bumped as easily or cause irritation like the rings {which will be larger than what you see in most photos if you go with a deep piercing because of the width of the pierce.}

Healing DOES take a long time. Mine have been done since a year ago july. Keep in mind that hot tub use, swimming etc is out of the question until the piercings are well healed. Healing varies from person to person but it isn't uncommon for it to take a good six months. Keeping them clean is extremely important. The use of sea salt soaks helps lessen the pain and keeps them clean during the entire healing process..and after when irritated.

For me, the piercing experience was one of the most painful things that I have undertaken. I don't remember whether the right or left was more painful than the other...but he did do my left first. Wanting to screech red was definately only a breath away. There was a lot of pain for a few weeks afterward. Cleaning them is very very painful. Wearing a clean bra constantly for support and protection during the early weeks really did help. There isn't any easy or pain free way around it unfortunately.

I will say that I wouldn't trade my piercings for anything, not even the pain. The bars are so comfortable that I forget they are there. They are to me, a constant reminder of something very special to me...my choice of lifestyle.

On note about an earlier post..you don't have to remove your piercings in order to have a mammogram. I never have and have had three over the course of the past year while monitoring a lump. No one has said anything other than asking if it were possible to remove them. An explanation that a body piercing isn't the same as removing ear piercings, they told me it wouldn't affect anything. I've been asked often about them by the technicians and nurses. *laugh* the Doctors never say a word.

Hoping to have been of some help.

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RE: Nipple Peircing - 8/17/2004 3:09:47 PM

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I'm sure plenty of people have given sufficient advise here, but there appears to be a couple of contradictions.

I ran a Body Piercing Studio for a while and, to be totally honest, you need to do your research in your area well. ANYBODY who pierces at home should be avoided at all costs - the risks of infection and secondary infection are too high. Only get your piercing done by a fully trained and qualified professional - and these are'nt as common as you think! Piercing is seen by many as a way to make a quick easy profit. The majority of 'professional' organisations they claim to be a member of either don't exist or were, unsurprisingly, invented by themselves. And the majority are'nt trained at all.

In the UK [and I know its no different in the USA], it is disturbing the number of shylocks and shysters in the industry. Whilst some Tattooists are decent Piercers, many are not - its just another way of getting a quick twenty quid from some young girl that knows no better. Good Piercing is a profession in its own right. My argument is that you don't go to your Dentist to treat a broken leg, so why go to a Tattooist to get pierced? [Likewise, you don't get many people going to a Body Piercer and saying 'slap a quick tattoo on me arm whilst I'm here'!!!]

If a Master / Mistress is serious about piercing their slave, then they will care enough to either have it done professionally - or pay a good training establishment to train them!

For advice, try contacting Cold Steel [in the USA and the UK], they are market leaders in their field and give good info - you'll find them quickly on the net. And look at Wildcat in the UK, they manufacture good quality jewellry - but more importantly are at the forefront for informing you about what should be used in invasive piercing and what should'nt. [and yes, I've seen a lot of messy things after those who know little bought rubbish from the market 'because it was cheap'! The worst being scarred for life after the surgical removal of the dissolved gloop that once was 'jewellry'.

The person using 14ct gold??? Never use any level of gold in a fresh piercing - you got off lightly.

If you find a Studio you're comfortable with, a couple of basic rules are: have they got clearly defined age limits? [if they're piercing anyone, they're in it for the money - get out quick]. Do they have individual and detailed aftercare info sheets for each piercing? Do they have an autoclave? [currently the only effective way to sterilise efficiently]. If so, is it regularly spore tested? Do they use piercing guns? [guns are NOT hygenic, can cause damage and if a Body Piercer uses them for ANY piercing they don't have a clue and are not keeping themselves updated - run away fast!]

Count on the healing period to be up to 12 months.

And yes nipple piercing can hurt [half the UK heard me shout f**k! when I had mine done - and yes, I travelled 80miles to a piercer I trusted!], strangely enough it generally hurts men more than women.

oh, and don't use any peroxide based solution, no salt water, no special hocus pocus specially prepared piercing aftercare claptrap cream. All you need is a little warm water and a gentle anti-bacterial soap. And clean hands and fingernails!!!!

Oh, and I'm serious about the sheer number of bad piercers - they outnumber 'proper' ones by about 3 to 1!! HIV is'nt the only problem, Hepatitus is proving to be a major worry for piercers - and it'll take up to ten years before you find out that you got that little freebie thrown in!

oh, and in the UK at least, if the piercer proudly proclaims 'registered with xyz council and environmental health approved' or similar - just chuckle! It looks good to the unknowing. All the local council is interested in is if you have hot and cold water, and a wipe down surface. thats it. I had to explain to my local council what an autoclave was! And - although my studio was by far and large the best appointed - very similar to a hospital! My environmental health inspection took less than 60 seconds, no questions asked, here's your permit. They are a waste of time - they do not understand the business and therefore cannot protect you. [hopefully due to change soon with new laws and inspection designed to put cowboys out of business. I wish!]

And for those who may be historically inclined, nipple piercing has been originally attributed to the romans who used it as a means to keep their cloaks attach and in place. [Its a strange world!]

Hope this helps a little. [I do have a lot more info on what to look for, what jewellry to use etc if needed. Just mail me]

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RE: Nipple Peircing - 8/17/2004 3:20:49 PM

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Thank you so much for all that information. i guess i was fortunate that i didnt have any problems because i found the establishment i used in the yellow pages.

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RE: Nipple Peircing - 8/17/2004 9:14:36 PM

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The person using 14ct gold??? Never use any level of gold in a fresh piercing - you got off lightly.

Some people (I'm not the only one) can't tolerate metals other than gold (18K or better for me). Surgical steel rings migrated COMPLETELY out of deep labia piercings I had in 3 weeks. My surgical steel hood piercing started out horizontal and went almost completely vertical due to migration. My 18K gold piercing hasn't budged at all.

I recently had an inner labia piercing done with implantanium (guaranteed nickel free titanium), and so far so good, but I have noticed some minor reaction to even that.

Gold isn't a good choice for everyone, but for some of us, it's the best option. Know your body.

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RE: Nipple Peircing - 8/18/2004 4:53:38 AM

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I have extremely sensitive nipples. Little itty bitty 18 or 20 guage needles through them make me scream like someone is cutting my arm off or something, and there are teeth impressions in a knife sheath 3 yrs later as evidence of how much it hurts.

*quivers*

i have very sensitive nipples also, i would love to get them peirced but even after just alot of suction of maybe a crop to them i am sore for days. i even had a problem with my nipple bleeding from suction.

funny how i love and can take more pain on other parts of my body but not my nipples..

i do however find nipple rings very sexy ... *sighs* i really do want mine done. maybe oneday i will get my nerve up and just go do it !

good luck perverseangelic, hope it turns out well...

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RE: Nipple Peircing - 8/18/2004 4:56:31 AM

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i have very sensitive nipples also, i would love to get them peirced but even after just alot of suction of maybe a crop to them i am sore for days.

ugh @ typos

suction OR maybe a crop -- think maybe was to early to start typing this morning ...... .lol

probably more of them ~~ going back to bed now :)

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RE: Nipple Peircing - 8/18/2004 5:52:58 AM

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I'm a bit late to this thread

I had mine done about 6 weeks ago, the morning after a play party, by some lovely dom friends who also specialise in piercing. As they'd been the ones to do my hood about 2 years ago (which I had no trouble with), I wasn't going to go to anyone else to get my nipples done.

I decided to get both done at once, for presentation as well as not having to go through pain at two separate times. Funnily enough, my left one did hurt more. It's my more sensitive nipple, and bled more than the right.

While it did hurt to have them done, it didn't hurt as much as I thought it would. I suppose letting one of the piercers poke 8 needles through one nipple at a previous party kinda got me used to it

. I made sure I kept my eyes open, focused on a spot on the wall (ignoring everyone who'd come in to watch) and just focused on my breathing.

I'm quite pleased with how well they're going now, they only hurt if I somehow pinch them (large breasts do get in the way sometimes), otherwise I don't feel them at all. I use a tea tree ointment (not oil) to clean with, which I used after my hood piercing, and haven't had any problems. Still get the crusties, but not too much.

Out of curiosity - how many of you had your eyes shut while you had them done? Things hurt more if you have your eyes shut, your body tenses up more that way. Don't believe me? Shut your eyes and tense up. Then relax, open your eyes, and tense up again. See the difference?

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RE: Nipple Peircing - 8/18/2004 6:02:07 AM

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kiki blue,
i had my eyes open and it still hurt like hell lol.

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