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RE: Nipple Peircing - 8/19/2004 7:29:08 AM

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kiki blue,
i had my eyes open and it still hurt like hell lol.

lol well, I think it's still going to hurt, but things usually hurt less that way. I was surprised that it - and my hood piercing - hurt a lot less than what I expected. They were both over a lot faster than I thought, too.

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RE: Nipple Peircing - 8/19/2004 8:41:13 AM

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I'm sure plenty of people have given sufficient advise here, but there appears to be a couple of contradictions.

I ran a Body Piercing Studio for a while and, to be totally honest, you need to do your research in your area well. ANYBODY who pierces at home should be avoided at all costs - the risks of infection and secondary infection are too high. Only get your piercing done by a fully trained and qualified professional - and these are'nt as common as you think! Piercing is seen by many as a way to make a quick easy profit. The majority of 'professional' organisations they claim to be a member of either don't exist or were, unsurprisingly, invented by themselves. And the majority are'nt trained at all.
rfm.

Gotta disagree with this one. I got mine done by a fully trained and qualified person, who had no interest in being a professional. He's pretty much a rich, stay-at-home husband, retired phlebotomist, who has lots of time to pursue his hobbies.

No desire to be profession. Plenty of desire to do peircings for his friends and his partner. So he learned. He told me a bit about his background, but I honestly can't remember it at the moment. I met several people he has peirced, seen several sets of nipples done by him.

I got peirced at his house, becuase he doesn't have a studio. Does this as a hobby, not a profession.

I agree with most of your information, and am looking for some of the same things in my search for a tattoo parlor. (Oddly enough, the man who peirced me -does- have an autoclave :) )

As to salt water, don't know if it helps healing. All I know is it feels very good and that it was highly recomended by my peircer. So, I use it even if it doesn't do anything, 'cause it's a great way to disolve crusties and it feels nice.

Kiki-I had my eyes open for one and shut for one. They both hurt like a bitch. :)

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RE: Nipple Peircing - 8/19/2004 12:28:27 PM

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since i know master tomorrow for a year i ordered two barbells last week, so it's up to him now if they get used. wonder if i will regret that....

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RE: Nipple Peircing - 8/19/2004 2:35:15 PM

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lol, pain will always be different to all of us in different ways - eyes shut or open - depending on our own physiological thresholds.

Was'nt trying to put anyone off - hope i have'nt - my nipples are, for a male - ho hum - incredibly large and sensitive and [ho hum again] feminine. And painfull in a male way, doh!

SheriA [think i got that right?], hun, there IS a serious problem with gold and fresh piercings. If You'll do me the honour of bearing with me i'll dig out my info. [am male - not a plus point! and middle-aged - that equals buggar all memory! lol]. If You don't see the thread feel free to mail me as Dorsetsubguy or at [email protected] - if they keep that mail addy in.

Though i am out of the industry now, honestly people, please at least let me jangle the odd warning bell in your direction. Body Piercing is seen as an ok never mind everyday thing. It ain't. It has serious repurcussions and can - in extreme circumstances maim or kill. Don't take it lightly.

That said, done right by somebody who knows what they're doing - and do research and do travel to where you feel comfortable - it is ok.

But you ARE NOT as protected as you think you are.

soz to be a party pooper.

rfm

[remember, you are inserting a foreign object INTO your body. Your bodies first and natural reation is to reject. To reject, in simple terms, means to try to dissolve and evacuate from the body, this goes back to earlier threads of being healthy, taking vitamins, etc etc. Piercing is fashionable - but still minor surgery!!! Think about it - then get it done properly!]

[SheriA - or anyone interested - nag me to reply about gold - lest i settle into a normal nights coma and forget tomorrow - nag! its important. cheers. rfm.]

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RE: Nipple Peircing - 8/19/2004 3:08:56 PM

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SheriA [think i got that right?], hun, there IS a serious problem with gold and fresh piercings. If You'll do me the honour of bearing with me i'll dig out my info. [am male - not a plus point! and middle-aged - that equals buggar all memory! lol]. If You don't see the thread feel free to mail me as Dorsetsubguy or at [email protected] - if they keep that mail addy in.

I'd be interested to see the information, since what you're saying doesn't ring true with what I know, especially what I know about my own body. Raelyn Galina (one of the most respected piercers in the industry) is the one that recommended 18K gold, after talking to me about the problems I had had with other metals in the past.

I've spoken to two physicians about my piercings (one did my most recent one, and the other ordered my newest jewelry for me (he has a piercing studio on the side)). Both of them agree that 18K gold is likely the best choice for me, though I've decided to try the implantanium first to see how I react, simply because it's so much more affordable. My hood jewelry cost me over $200 for the custom barbell I have there...and the jewelry I want for my labia would have totaled around $1K.

So, the most respected piercer I know as well as two physicians have given me information that contradicts what you're saying. I'd still be interested in reading it though.

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RE: Nipple Peircing - 8/20/2004 7:47:41 AM

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physicians don't know about piercings, it's just a fact of the matter. If you have had problems with silver, then you try gold, if problems with gold, try steel, if problems with steel try titanium. That's sort of the natural progression. Titanium is actually one of the least reactive metals and rather light too so as to not cause skin malformations during the healing process.

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RE: Nipple Peircing - 8/20/2004 7:58:30 AM

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physicians don't know about piercings, it's just a fact of the matter.

pardon me? How can You say that? i have two physicians in my family and they are very knowledgeable about piercings. Look at all of their years of studying and practical application.

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RE: Nipple Peircing - 8/20/2004 8:04:05 AM

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In general, most phsyicians don't know nearly as much about actual piercings as such they know about basic aftercare or signs of infection, not about metal choices and dermal reactions to such unless they are a dermatologist. I have two doctors in the family as well, five actually if you count their spouses and that's only going within those that I am in contact with (come on we're french canadian and Irish, families are in that "could bump into someone on the street and they might be related" range) and I actually have gotten calls from them asking me about different things do to my background in the matter. They very clearly state that most reactions to common body modifications are not discussed in any sort of long detail in their trainings or interships.

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RE: Nipple Peircing - 8/20/2004 8:20:36 AM

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Well in regards to metal choices, the physicians i know choose just one to minimize any chance of an allergic reaction. i don't see how a reaction to a body modification would be that much different than a reaction to any other kind of invasion to the body. i would much rather have a dermatologist look at a skin reaction than a piercer who hasn't had the years of training. A dermatologist or any physician can perscribe either antibiotics to kill an infection or other useful things to deal with inflammations.

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RE: Nipple Peircing - 8/20/2004 10:21:40 AM

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But that isn't the solution to the problem, there are actually different reactions and different procedures according to types of metals used. Also with proper aftercare in the first place and following the directions of an experienced piercer, as in not having a friend or Dom do it with a safety pin and think that's good enough, it should never get infected in the first place and if it does your best bet is actually to remove it, not try to fight it out with antibiotics. Also a respectable piercer is often medically trained or at minimum certified...just so you know. Sometimes there is far more to a world then just the hole in which you see it through.

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RE: Nipple Peircing - 8/24/2004 1:12:26 PM

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I fully understand the point you are making.

What I was trying to get across is that gold - of any quality - is neither suitable for nor recommended for initial piercing. Once healed the absolute minimum standard is 14ct, 18 the ideal. 24ct is too weak and 9ct is 70% unstable alloy and should never be used. In a fresh piercing the reaction to miniscule fragmentation is far higher from the corrosion your body initiates as it trys to fend off the invading jewellry. Likewise with surgical stainless steel.

Totally inert materials, ones which will not cause reaction are Titanium, Niobium, even PTFE and Implantanium which is the new(ish) kid on the block.

What has proven problematic in the past is some piercers not sourcing their jewellry from reputable suppliers. There are several companies specialising in cowboy materials dressed up to look like the real thing, sold through intermediateries and filtered onto an unknowing market. It is a multi-million pound con and virtually impossible to tell fake from real. Hence the referells to Wildcat and Cold Steel (and there are, obviously, many many more reputable purveyors).

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RE: Nipple Peircing - 8/28/2004 1:58:45 PM

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i really liked my first piercing (VCH) which SN put in last March, today he showed 2.2mm thick needles through my poor nipples so they pierced to now OUCHHHHHHHHH ouch ouch OUCH dammit. He says my fault since i bought the barbells but i think his fault >:o, he stuck those pointy things in me. OUCHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH, me sore . can i swear now?? pwease?

OH, by da way last sunday da 22 it was a year ago that i met him the first time. hence why i bought those damn things.

the barbells are 1.6mm x 16mm implantanium but i will change tor ings later i think, just a pity they dotn do thinner barbells. well only thinner if i would buy shorter than 10mm and i need the long ones to have at least a tiny bit of movement while healing so the needle was scaring me. but not about 5 hours later it doesnt hurt

, or was that the painkillers?

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RE: Nipple Peircing - 9/4/2004 4:53:57 PM

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I love having mine done.....and getting them done for a second time for the cross effect

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RE: Nipple Peircing - 9/23/2004 12:07:34 AM

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i agree with proud sub. i called ahead to see how this is done and the after care. i was considering it as it is a real turn on for me.. but have not Yet got the nerve..
i instead got the clip on style. time will tell what i decide. Thanks for the information.

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RE: Nipple Peircing - 9/23/2004 2:25:08 AM

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i really like mine. The aftercare wasn't bad. The only bad part was the pain when they did it. If i had to do it over again, i definitely would do it but i would have someone with me.

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RE: Nipple Peircing - 9/23/2004 4:02:25 AM

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i agree...i really loved my nipple piercings when i had them...took them out for work reasons more than anything...long story there...well, not long, but dull...i'd get them again in a second, but i'm waiting until there's someone else to do it for.

i used to have a bunch of cock piercings too...took 'em out for the same reason...and i'd do that again if someone wanted me to have them.

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RE: Nipple Peircing - 9/23/2004 6:07:30 PM

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i used to have a bunch of cock piercings too...took 'em out for the same reason...and i'd do that again if someone wanted me to have them.

Hmmmmmm wondering what kind of work you do LOL, who at work would see those?

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RE: Nipple Peircing - 9/24/2004 10:10:20 AM

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My dad worked around big machinery which required high voltage electricity to run - he was not even allowed to wear his wedding ring to work, I am presuming because of electrical shock potential/insurance reasons - the same would apply to metal body piercings (NOT a factor with my dad

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RE: Nipple Peircing - 9/24/2004 10:19:13 AM

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Ive always wanted mine done but i am scared plus also i want to save that for something i do WITH my Master. (once i have a Master) LOL

maybe saving it to do with a Master is just a excuse *shurgs*

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RE: Nipple Peircing - 9/24/2004 10:49:54 AM

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Me too!!! I really want to get my nipples pierced. I think sometimes I'd prefer to do it when I have a dominant partner. Sometimes, I think I'd rather do it now so they will be completely healed are can be played with by that time. I go back and forth. I try not too think of the pain too much, but it is a factor in my indecision - not the pain of the initial piercing, but the pain of having them played with after the fact. It seems that everyone's piercings are different in terms of pain and healing time.

But - don't laugh at me - I think I have lovely nipples and stainless or titanium rings would be simply beautiful.

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