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RE: Humiliation - 9/29/2006 9:26:57 PM   
AquaticSub


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ORIGINAL: ayasha

What is humiliating to one person isn't to another - besides, it would not be humiliating if it pleased one's Master, would it? 


*chuckles* Not all of us are slaves with masters.

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RE: Humiliation - 9/29/2006 9:37:33 PM   
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ORIGINAL: LotusSong

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ORIGINAL: OsideGirl

Keep in mind, that what is acceptable in Norway is not neccessarily acceptable in the US. Showing breasts in public is not acceptable here. You may be forcing a parent to have a conversation with their child on your schedule instead of theirs.

My point is....it is not our place to decide what others are comfortable with. I think it shows a lack of respect to involve vanillas in your play without their consent or knowledge. You're telling them that you don't care if they're shocked or offended, just as long as you got what you needed.


What she said.. Well said.

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RE: Humiliation - 10/2/2006 11:17:07 AM   
manthony


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Status: offline 		Really i think if some one a child gets damage for seeing a breat well to bad if there parents have to have a talk with them about it after words shame on the perents for not saying some as of yet . why should i have to be the one to hide my slef when we are all naked under are clothes

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RE: Humiliation - 10/2/2006 11:18:42 PM   
humanhorsey


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Status: offline 		My domme put a funnel in my ass, and had four women spectating piss into it. Then they all watched and took pictures with their digital cameras...

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RE: Humiliation - 10/3/2006 5:45:24 AM   
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Status: offline 		most peoples  here discussing  it was  humilating when public or their master/mistress   friends  see them ?  was anyone  felt humilating in private  room too ?

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RE: Humiliation - 10/3/2006 11:02:14 AM   
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ORIGINAL: darskide
... there are parts of the world where exposing a woman's feet, face, knees, arms,and head is considered immoral.


Well said!

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ORIGINAL: peterK50

In the state of New York it is legal for women to go topless. The "Topfree 7" brought suit in state supreme court alledging sex descrimination because men could go shirtless. They won, & now they can.


Eeeek! My new Dom lives in NY....

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RE: Humiliation - 10/3/2006 11:25:41 AM   
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ORIGINAL: softysub


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ORIGINAL: OsideGirl


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ORIGINAL: softysub

I was ordered to go to the movies with nothing underneath my winter coat. Once there, i had to open my coat with my breasts at view of anyone passing by.

At the same time it was humiliating, but i loved it cause i was pleasing the Dom.

softysub


What if that person was a child? Did the people that you showed yourself to consent to be part of your play?





It was dark, W/we werent sitting right in the middle of the theatre. It was late at night, no kids were allowed to go see the movie W/we went to see. It might sound bad, but i know He wouldnt have done anything like that if kids were present.

softysub


Kids aside, what about the potential danger to yourself? How do you know there is not a (potential) rapist in the cinema, one who needs the minimal amount of 'stimulation' to think, 'she's showing her tits, she must want some, so I'm going to give it to her'?!
And if this person has priors and is trying to avoid any stimulus that triggers this behaviour in himself, trying to do the right thing, and your action 'pushes' his fragile mind over the egde after which he rapes you or someone else and he ends up back in jail? Then your 'innocent' act has ruined 1 maybe 2 lives...

Sure it's an unlikely scenario, but so is winning the lottery and that happens almost weekly...

Iskander...


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RE: Humiliation - 10/3/2006 5:02:44 PM   
Sensualips


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Status: offline 		I was really going to avoid the boob-in-public debate.  But seriously.

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How do you know there is not a (potential) rapist in the cinema, one who needs the minimal amount of 'stimulation' to think, 'she's showing her tits, she must want some, so I'm going to give it to her'?!
And if this person has priors and is trying to avoid any stimulus that triggers this behaviour in himself, trying to do the right thing, and your action 'pushes' his fragile mind over the egde after which he rapes you or someone else and he ends up back in jail?


Rape (real nonconsensual rape) is about violence, not sex.  Showing a boob is not going to trigger a violent act any more than the myth of the short skirt and heavy makeup. A poor fragile mind trying desperately to avoid the urge for violence is pushed into rape by seeing a tit?  And then shame on her for ruining his life? Come now.

Plus, she was not alone.  Rapists work on opportunity.

This is an extremely weak anti-nudity argument

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RE: Humiliation - 10/4/2006 9:07:08 AM   
ToGiveDivine


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RE: Humiliation - 10/4/2006 1:38:45 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Lordandmaster

You're applauding a post from OVER A YEAR AGO?

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ORIGINAL: LotusSong

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ORIGINAL: OsideGirl

Keep in mind, that what is acceptable in Norway is not neccessarily acceptable in the US. Showing breasts in public is not acceptable here. You may be forcing a parent to have a conversation with their child on your schedule instead of theirs.

My point is....it is not our place to decide what others are comfortable with. I think it shows a lack of respect to involve vanillas in your play without their consent or knowledge. You're telling them that you don't care if they're shocked or offended, just as long as you got what you needed.


What she said.. Well said.



Gee.. sorry.. I didn't know there was a time limit.

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RE: Humiliation - 10/4/2006 6:31:46 PM   
Daddysredhead


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Status: offline 		The most humiliating thing I can recall right now happened in the very beginning of my relationship (way before any talk of BDSM, etc.) with the man who is now my Master.  I was complaining of a stomach ache and He asked when I went to the bathroom last.  I thought that was rather personal and told Him to mind His own business as it was probably just a tummy bug.  He was very serious when He said He was going to give me an enema to see if that was my problem.  I just laughed at Him.  Next thing I knew, I was pinned down with Him giving me an enema, and me screaming, "Are you nuts?!"  It only got worse when I told Him that it wouldn't work and that He was insane, because I had to shove Him out of the way to get to the bathroom fast.  He just laughed and popped the door open to ask if I was sure I needed to be in there.  I screamed for Him to get out, which He did...  giggling wildly.  I was mortified.  (But not enough to leave...  *giggles*)

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RE: Humiliation - 10/4/2006 7:21:21 PM   
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ORIGINAL: nella

Well FLButtSlut if you want to have total control over what your child sees, then you should look him or her in a room whit no windows, TV or any books you ahve not read, overwise he or she will learn things you ahve not desided for him to learn. i see nothing wrong whit if somone sit a bit discreetly and have their boobies out during a movie, and if somone sees it that do not want to see it, child or adult, then to bad for them.


nella,

The point she was making was that in the United States, it would not be too bad for her, it would be too bad for you.  You are entitled to your own opinions about nudity and consensuality and everything else, but frequently different locales have these things called "laws" that determine what people can or cannot do.  "Laws" generally have criminal penalties that are used to ensure that people play by the rules.

I personally find the one who forced you to do that to be rather self-involved and downright rude to subject other people to your play.  Although it is not the first (nor is it likely to be the last) that somebody is such a legend in their own mind that they insist on including non-consenting people into their dynamic.

Just me, could be wrong, but there you go.

Sinergy

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RE: Humiliation - 10/4/2006 9:29:59 PM   
raeanha


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Status: offline 		My most humiliating moment was over four years ago, and I was completely alone when it happened!

I spent five unforgettable days on a sail boat with my Daddy-Dom in and around Cornwall, England. My very first night there he had me spend the night all alone on his boat. He'd found a way to rig the bed so that I had plenty of sleeping room, but it blocked the way to the bathroom. He'd left me a bucket for the purpose of relieving myself while he was gone. It was a daunting concept for me. I tried hard to hold it until he came back and could free up the room to the head.

However, the next day, round about mid-morning, mother natures call became too great and I flat out just HAD to go. I squatted as gingerly as I could and took care of business (not just onesies.. but twosies as well, of course).

When I stood up, I was completely mortified to find I'd missed the inside of the bucket altogether and had a ghastly mess to try to deal with. It was horrible!!! I was frantically trying to clean up after myself when I heard him boarding the boat... Naturally I disolved into hysterics knowing I'd been caught! When he opened the cabin doors he found me all tear stained and completely humiliated, confessing my error between jagged sobs...

Well, he was very kind, helping to dispose of the evidence, wiping away my tears.. reassuring me that my little transgression was nothing compared to what he'd had to deal with when guests got motion sick on his boat...  Over time it became a very special memory for both of us.

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RE: Humiliation - 10/5/2006 12:15:45 AM   
MasterKalif


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ORIGINAL: CrappyDom

Speaking as the leaders of teenage boys all across America, we heartily give our complete consent to the exposure of any female bodypart at any time.

As a man, no matter how old, about when he has seen flashes from women and they can generally name them all the way back to childhood and they are fond memories.

The stick in the muds can go pound sand over as innocent an act as a woman exposing herself which is rarely if ever done as a power trip which is exactly the opposite of how men do it when it IS a power trip and IS negative experience.


Amen!!!!

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RE: Humiliation - 10/5/2006 12:25:37 AM   
MasterKalif


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Status: offline 		well, I completely agree with Nella and I find everyone else here very prudish, which doesn't surprise me....boobs are not a negative thing, and I can recall when I aw my first boob at the age of 10....big deal, I survived, the horror, the horror. And when I go to a beach in Spain or any other European country, the greatest sight along with the boats and the waves and the sunshine, are the boobs of the women getting a sun-tan....and no, these are not "nudist" beaches, just any ol' beach, and frankly it gets to the point where it is not schocking anymore. In my native Chile, these days and even in the more prudish days of the Pinochet dictatorship over there, in local newspapers if not on the front page, on the second page, you could see naked women wearing thongs (now even more than that, and actually on some late night tv shows they show women stripping)....something similar happens in Britain in those silly newspapers like the Daily Sun and such...and no big deal.

I can agree however with the issue of imposing the lifestyle on vanilla population, however if you check and know that no one is there, then by all means, do what you wanna do. And if my child sees boobs, no big deal, and before I get rants about what a "bad" father I am, save them for later as I have no kids now.

Now that I got that out of my chest....on this topic, my most "humiliating" moment was when I was in school wearing a uniform, and had to excuse myself from playing soccer during break as my pants ripped on the back, hahaha....then there was the humiliation of being kicked out of a high school class by an idiot professor because I was eating a burger (half eaten actually) and lunch break was just over, so apparently that pissed the old idiot off.....oh well.

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RE: Humiliation - 10/5/2006 5:23:45 AM   
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Status: offline 		I can think of two occasions in particular - one, after I went to the bathroom without permission, the next time I asked I was refused on a number of occasions until I was bursting.  When I was allowed to go I was made to stand in the bath and had to go in the bath in front of Him.  On the second occasion, I knelt, naked and had to clean His boots, with my tongue.  This was done soon after I became His property, just because He could and to test my obedience

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RE: Humiliation - 10/5/2006 6:57:12 AM   
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RE: Humiliation - 10/7/2006 7:21:21 AM   
pinkee


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ORIGINAL: nella

Well FLButtSlut if you want to have total control over what your child sees, then you should look him or her in a room whit no windows, TV or any books you ahve not read, overwise he or she will learn things you ahve not desided for him to learn. i see nothing wrong whit if somone sit a bit discreetly and have their boobies out during a movie, and if somone sees it that do not want to see it, child or adult, then to bad for them.


Firstly, i am also a mommy, and i fully agree with FLButtSlut. 
 
Second, "public indecency" laws are on the books in every one of the 50 states, as far as i know.  (Would appreciate a citation to alleged law in NY permitting women to be topless in public.) 
 
Apart from the controversy over breast feeding a baby in public, i think there would be little defense to such a criminal charge if a woman exposed her breasts in a movie theater and other patrons complained.  On this point, i agree with Sinergy.
 
i'd like to make two more comments.  First, not involving members of the public -- particularly unmentionables -- in "play" btw a Dom and sub (insert alternatives here) is reasonable, lawful, and considerate.  It does not make me a "prude" -- i happpen to think f**king is one proof that God exists.
 
Second, humiliation is one of my hard limits.  i (just me, not anyone else) would not eat dog food; pee on the kitchen floor, or get naked in front of 6 other people.  i have a hard time understanding the attraction of degrading another person, but i (just me) will not be experiencing it first-hand.

pinkee

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RE: Humiliation - 10/18/2006 1:58:35 PM   
SuzanneKneeling


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This country has large majorities that do not teach their children how their bodies work, they preach abstinence rather than common sense, they teach their children that the human body is something to be ashamed of. I think these are the reasons that we have some of the highest teen pregnancy rates and high sex crime rates in the world.


I realize it wasn't the main topic, but I had to chime in on this by quoting the most eloquent (and humorous) summary I've read yet of fundamentalist American mores:

“We grew up with two things pounded into our brains from the day we were born,” says songwriter Butch Hancock in a West Texas drawl capable of transforming a normal conversation into smoky music. “One is, God loves ya and he’s gonna send ya to hell. The other is that sex is dirty and evil and nasty and filthy and sinful and bad and awful and you should save it for the one you love. So it’s no wonder we were all schizoid maniacs.”

And those are the people running our country (at least for the next three weeks) that he's talking about.

I second the person above who nominated (paraphrasing) "having to passionately defend Republican 'values' in a room full of people who didn't know the restrictions I was under". Works for me. Followed closely by having to lift my leg and pee in front of a crowd of people.

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RE: Humiliation - 10/18/2006 2:19:36 PM   
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ORIGINAL: kiwisub12

My Sir commanded me to pee on the kitchen floor when i asked to go to the bathroom. It took me forever to actually start - because #1 i was standing up and #2 he was watching me. Then i had to clean it up. Very difficult.


my Mistress told me to pee in the garden when our neighbours where outside. They saw me while this girl was peeing.

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