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RE: The skills of a female submissive/slave - 7/16/2004 7:17:43 PM   
MzBerlin


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ORIGINAL: angelthighhighs

i've never said i wanted a Master that would tear me down and build me up into one that he would find pleasing. i've always said that i wish for One that finds me pleasing just as i am....


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RE: The skills of a female submissive/slave - 7/17/2004 11:58:01 AM   
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Are you going to make the cat paint your house??!!!



Doesn't the cat usually just paint themselves?

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RE: Cats and Where They Poop - 7/17/2004 8:46:55 PM   
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Are you sure she sucks the chrome off, remember this pic, near the bottom of the page:

trailer hitch


yes M.Proudsub, i do remember that pic, and ahve 2 comments in regard to her removing the chrome in that manner;

to wit:

1. if her vaginal secretions are so nasty as to eat off the chrome, aint no way I am sticking my dick in there

2. if she has that much control over her vaginal muscles and they are that strong, again, aint no way I am sticking my dick in there cause she could, again, be able to remove it from my body



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RE: Cats and Where They Poop - 7/17/2004 11:37:52 PM   
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This thread about tearing a person down and rebuilding them to be what one wants is eerily reminiscent to me of the part of Lord Of The Rings where Gandalf confronts Sauroman. I will try to state it as best as I remember it.

Sauroman: I wear a cloak of many colors, whereas yours is just white. A white page can be marked on, written on, painted on...

Gandalf: In which case it is no longer white.

The point I am trying to make is that while it is possible to use a bigger sledgehammer to get the round peg to fit in the square hole, to me it seems that taking that approach really doesnt respect the inner nature of the round peg or the square hole. It is simply a ham-handed approach to forcing the universe to comply with that person's ideas of reality.

Tearing apart a person's inner nature to me seems contrary to what I hope to achieve. If I tear her down she is no longer herself, and I dont think I have the wisdom to know what she actually is or what she should be. Perhaps it is my Taoist perspective, but I have to assume I do not know something, and then I have to look and listen in order to (possibly) learn the essence of what one is observing. I think of water flowing. It always seeks it's own level, and while men can try to dam it, etc., water will always seek it's own level. That is it's inner nature. Taoists do not seek to force reality to suit their whim; they seek to understand the principle which binds things. I dont want a Stepford Submissive or a mindless automaton, I want to merge myself with who she is and become something as a couple which is far greater than either of us can attain alone.

I dont know if this is possible, or if this is simply some ridiculous pipe-dream spawned from spending too much time learning about some moldy 6000+ year old philosophy from China, but it is just me and I could be wrong.

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RE: Cats and Where They Poop - 7/18/2004 9:01:23 AM   
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The point I am trying to make is that while it is possible to use a bigger sledgehammer to get the round peg to fit in the square hole, to me it seems that taking that approach really doesnt respect the inner nature of the round peg or the square hole. It is simply a ham-handed approach to forcing the universe to comply with that person's ideas of reality.

Tearing apart a person's inner nature to me seems contrary to what I hope to achieve. If I tear her down she is no longer herself, and I dont think I have the wisdom to know what she actually is or what she should be.
Sinergy


Sinergy-
I agree. And TY for the LOTR reference. Can never have too many of those...
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RE: Cats and Where They Poop - 7/18/2004 10:00:50 AM   
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I agree. And TY for the LOTR reference. Can never have too many of those...


There are so many things about certain characters in that book that I relate to rather deeply.

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RE: Cats and Where They Poop - 7/21/2004 8:30:45 PM   
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I am a creator, and as such every parent must one day send their children out into the world.


Just out of curiosity, what is your actual experience in either one of these fields?

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RE: Cats and Where They Poop - 7/22/2004 6:02:38 AM   
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Sinergy,

Damn, I love the way you put things into perspective. It's like a fusion between Yogi Berra, Confusious, and Tim Allen. Love reading your posts.

I don't agree with "breaking a slave", although I have had scenes where we dig pretty deep and shred away a few layers. Sometimes it can be extremely beneficial to both parties to "tear down" a slave.

I recall a scene with my girl where the goal was simply to unleash my inner beatie. To let out all the primal energy...to use any and all methods of issuing pain...to just completely let go as a Sadist. All I can say is...wow. She flew...and flew and flew. When she came back...and after a good loooong amount of lovin' aftercare...she was in the most peaceful place I have ever seen her. This was the day she had accepted herself as a slave. She found her peace. It's the most incredible thing I have ever seen....and I don't think it would have been accomplished without "tearing her down" a little.

The whole "breaking" thing makes me think of forcing a slave to conform to your style of dominance. Maybe I have this wrong. I'd rather talk with someone and discover that they are already accepting of my style of dominance...and then tear them down.. in order for them to find themselves.


Evilly,

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RE: Cats and Where They Poop - 7/22/2004 6:31:48 AM   
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Sinergy,

Damn, I love the way you put things into perspective. It's like a fusion between Yogi Berra, Confusious, and Tim Allen. Love reading your posts.


Thank you very much,

Sinergy

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RE: Cats and Where They Poop - 7/22/2004 6:48:45 AM   
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Be he ever so humble, I do have to agree, we all love Sinergy's.....TOYS *ahem* No, his posts, humor, and stuff. I agree, Thorns, I love the way he puts things, but *koff* I don't agree with his perspective all the time. Oh wait...isn't it "Sin" now?

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RE: Cats and Where They Poop - 7/22/2004 7:19:20 AM   
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Be he ever so humble, I do have to agree, we all love Sinergy's.....TOYS *ahem* No, his posts, humor, and stuff. I agree, Thorns, I love the way he puts things, but *koff* I don't agree with his perspective all the time. Oh wait...isn't it "Sin" now?


Hello,

The problem with my being a Zen Taoist is that frequently I dont agree with myself.

Welcome to my world.

Just me, could be wrong...

Sinergy

p.s. I am only Sin to muse, and then only when we are dancing and the speakers get uppity.

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RE: Cats and Where They Poop - 7/22/2004 7:38:33 AM   
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...frequently I dont agree with myself.


Me too.

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I am only Sin to muse, and then only when we are dancing and the speakers get uppity.


Got it!


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RE: Cats and Where They Poop - 7/23/2004 5:51:10 AM   
basiasubrosa


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The problem with my being a Zen Taoist is that frequently I dont agree with myself.



Aaaaahh...... So maybe *that's* why i am always tripping over myself..... Never thought of it that way. Good to know after all these years. Thanks!

Ditto to MzBerlin on there never being too many LOTR quotes.

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