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RE: Learn english or go to jail - 3/27/2008 8:03:46 PM   
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Yes, but most that think that may not be sharp enough to be that observant.

Probably for the best, it would only confuse them.

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Ya'll better believe it.
 

It's y'all in Kentucky. Does the apostrophe fall farther south with geography?
 
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No. On a side note, I have had some try to tell me "y'all" is singular.

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RE: Learn english or go to jail - 3/27/2008 8:08:09 PM   
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RE: Learn english or go to jail - 3/27/2008 8:11:10 PM   
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um, i was born here and i did not learn english first


What a shame.

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RE: Learn english or go to jail - 3/27/2008 8:12:57 PM   
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i lived in Alabama for a few years, and if a good grasp on English could determine whether or not someone could be incarcerated...a whole lotta "good ol' boys" are going down!!!!


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RE: Learn english or go to jail - 3/27/2008 8:19:19 PM   
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Status: offline 		when my family came over on the boat it was learn english or starve.  they took to this country like ducks to water, even refusing to teach the next generation any of our "native" tongue.  we were in America, we were Americans.  end of discussion as far as they were concerned.  not sure if we've become more liberal or more lazy as a society.
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RE: Learn english or go to jail - 3/27/2008 8:21:17 PM   
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um, i was born here and i did not learn english first


What a shame.



care to tell me exactly *why* that is such a shame?
would it have anything to do with me being in college level
english in the fifth grade?
could it have anything to do with the fact that im not
caucasian? or maybe that i was raised with venerated elders
who have already been here in the u.s. centuries before
your race learned how to build boats?
inquiring minds and all.....



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RE: Learn english or go to jail - 3/27/2008 8:23:38 PM   
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when my family came over on the boat it was learn english or starve.  they took to this country like ducks to water, even refusing to teach the next generation any of our "native" tongue.  we were in America, we were Americans.  end of discussion as far as they were concerned.  not sure if we've become more liberal or more lazy as a society.
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I've had more then a couple of friends whose immigrant families shared this mindset. That is the key difference between an immigrant and the illegal aliens that are causing today's problems. Immigrants come to America to BE an American. They come here for the whole package, the language, the life, everything.

The illegal alien does not. They come here and make what they can and send it "home" to "their real country" so that their families there can live better. They have no interest in assimilating into our society or being an American.

I say encourage immigration......boot out the fucking illegals. I'd wager a nice, 100-foot-high electric fence would come in handy. Maybe some motion-activated, automatic sentry guns as well.

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RE: Learn english or go to jail - 3/27/2008 8:23:50 PM   
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when my family came over on the boat it was learn english or starve.  they took to this country like ducks to water, even refusing to teach the next generation any of our "native" tongue.  we were in America, we were Americans.  end of discussion as far as they were concerned.  not sure if we've become more liberal or more lazy as a society.
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Maybe we're trying to be less fascistic (obviously not doing very well at it, but hey! We're trying.)?

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RE: Learn english or go to jail - 3/27/2008 8:29:00 PM   
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um, i was born here and i did not learn english first


What a shame.



care to tell me exactly *why* that is such a shame?
would it have anything to do with me being in college level
english in the fifth grade?
could it have anything to do with the fact that im not
caucasian? or maybe that i was raised with venerated elders
who have already been here in the u.s. centuries before
your race learned how to build boats?
inquiring minds and all.....




Cute attempt at indignation. However you have no clue what my race is. Mainly because I don't have just one.

But to answer your question, it's a shame that a person who was born here would not be taught english, the predominant tongue of this country. I support learning whatever language strikes your fancy but I consider it an open slap in the face of America when someone refuses to teach or learn english and still expects to get by.

Tell me something, since you appear quite indignant about the mexican race, despite your claim of being born 'here,' .....if I picked a rural neighborhood at random in mexico and went there.....how many people would be speaking to me in english? I ask because here there are groups who consider it a crying shame that a school can't teach a hispanic child in spanish. How many places in mexico would cater to me if I didn't speak english? (And you can't name resort towns like Cancun and Cozamel.....that's too easy)

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RE: Learn english or go to jail - 3/27/2008 8:32:27 PM   
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RE: Learn english or go to jail - 3/27/2008 8:33:51 PM   
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RE: Learn english or go to jail - 3/27/2008 8:36:43 PM   
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Didn't you say you were "full blooded German"  ?


Nope, I said my great-grandparents were. At least the ones on my dad's side, anyway.

You see, both my parents have german last names, but my mom once explained my 'lineage' to me. Unfortunately she and my dad can't seem to agree, nor does either of them seem to know every single one. To my best information, though *I* am predominantly german, it's also been said I'm a bit irish, welsh, french and a few others.....there's even a rumor about a lil indian in there somewhere, though I don't know if it's "feather" or "dot," so I can't exactly use it in the whole "native american" argument.



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RE: Learn english or go to jail - 3/27/2008 8:36:54 PM   
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Didn't you say you were "full blooded German"  ?
Whatever that means. Germans are the most mongrelized people in Europe.

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RE: Learn english or go to jail - 3/27/2008 8:37:45 PM   
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RE: Learn english or go to jail - 3/27/2008 8:39:40 PM   
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I'm reassured to hear that you're a mutt, like all the best of us ;-) .


Quite so. I tried once to use one of those lineage sites to track my ancestors....it must not have been a very good one though since it didn't tell me much. But then the net was still young then. Perhaps I'll try again one day. I have to admit that I am curious, for a host of reasons. Not the least of which, though, is that if I *do* have native american in me, I can finally say with indignant confidence "AS A MATTER OF FACT I AM!!!" When someone brings the whole native american schtick into immigration arguments.




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RE: Learn english or go to jail - 3/27/2008 8:56:38 PM   
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I say encourage immigration......boot out the fucking illegals. I'd wager a nice, 100-foot-high electric fence would come in handy. Maybe some motion-activated, automatic sentry guns as well.


I forget what comedian it was... but he suggested that the best way to combat illegals entering the country was to build a huge-ass brick wall across the border... and then build a second one with a sign on it that says "Wall 2 of 45."  The theory was that after jumping the wall they'd be disheartened to see a second wall and figure that any country crazy enough to build two walls probably WOULD build the other 45.

My family's new to the U.S. but as far as I know we're all legal.  Then again, my father's side is of a somewhat dubious nature, so who the Hell knows.

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RE: Learn english or go to jail - 3/27/2008 8:57:43 PM   
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I'm reassured to hear that you're a mutt, like all the best of us ;-) .
I sure am, baby. Grandparents' Familiennamen were
Schlüßelburg, Langer, Phelps, and Wahl. Purebred Mutt.

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RE: Learn english or go to jail - 3/27/2008 9:00:16 PM   
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um, i was born here and i did not learn english first


What a shame.



How on earth is that possibly a shame? Knowing more than one language is better mentally and makes you more hirable!

BTW, her post never said she refused to learn it or that her parents refused to teach it. Just that she didn't learn it first. I had a friend who spoke German before speaking English simply because she heard it more as a toddler, but no one was refusing to teach her English. She was quite fluent in English as a young child.

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RE: Learn english or go to jail - 3/27/2008 9:04:56 PM   
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How on earth is that possibly a shame? Knowing more than one language is better mentally and makes you more hirable!

BTW, her post never said she refused to learn it or that her parents refused to teach it. Just that she didn't learn it first. I had a friend who spoke German before speaking English simply because she heard it more as a toddler, but no one was refusing to teach her English. She was quite fluent in English as a young child.


It all goes back to what I said about the other "immigrants" that come here wishing to BE American. Americans speak english, or at least an Americanized version of it (so there's no hair-splitting). Teaching another language first is, to me, disrespectful and sounds more like something an illegal alien would do rather than someone wishing to assimilate and become an American.

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RE: Learn english or go to jail - 3/27/2008 9:08:05 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Smith117

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ORIGINAL: domahpet

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ORIGINAL: domahpet

um, i was born here and i did not learn english first


What a shame.



care to tell me exactly *why* that is such a shame?
would it have anything to do with me being in college level
english in the fifth grade?
could it have anything to do with the fact that im not
caucasian? or maybe that i was raised with venerated elders
who have already been here in the u.s. centuries before
your race learned how to build boats?
inquiring minds and all.....




Cute attempt at indignation. However you have no clue what my race is. Mainly because I don't have just one.

But to answer your question, it's a shame that a person who was born here would not be taught english, the predominant tongue of this country. I support learning whatever language strikes your fancy but I consider it an open slap in the face of America when someone refuses to teach or learn english and still expects to get by.

Tell me something, since you appear quite indignant about the mexican race, despite your claim of being born 'here,' .....if I picked a rural neighborhood at random in mexico and went there.....how many people would be speaking to me in english? I ask because here there are groups who consider it a crying shame that a school can't teach a hispanic child in spanish. How many places in mexico would cater to me if I didn't speak english? (And you can't name resort towns like Cancun and Cozamel.....that's too easy)



"a slap in the face of America" what are you smoking? you do realize dont you that this entire continent is "America"?
and i do have a *clue* as to your race, your profile states caucasian.
do i seem somehow to not have a grasp of the english language?
i honestly have only ever been to puerto valarta, but i can guess that if you
did decide to visit a smaller town, the people there would *at least* be polite to you,
wether or not you spoke spanish.
the true shame is poeple who dont have a homeland and use *being American*
to back up their bigotry.
do you realise how stupid people sound when they call themselves American? if you say that in Mexico,
the Mexican youre talking to will say, "so am I".

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