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Austrian Man Holds Daughter Captive For 24 Years - 4/28/2008 7:34:53 PM   
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An elderly Austrian man has confessed to holding his daughter captive in a basement cell for 24 years and fathering seven children with her, police said Monday.
The 73-year-old man allegedly held his daughter Elisabeth, now 42, and three of their children in a soundproof chamber below an apartment block in Amstetten, a town near the Austrian Alps.
Police say he raised three of the children with his wife, who knew nothing of the secret cellar chamber.
The man told police he burned the body of the seventh child, who allegedly died of neglect shortly after birth, in an incinerator.
Elisabeth was originally reported missing in 1984 when she was 18 years old. She was located by Amstetten police on Saturday evening after they received a tip. She is now in psychiatric care with her children, two of whom are said to be in poor health.
"They are in a life-threatening condition," the head of the clinic where they are being treated told reporters. "All of them are being given intensive medical treatment. I can give no prognosis. Only God knows that."
On Monday, police released photos of the underground cell which included a small bathroom and a tiny bedroom. The cell was made of reinforced concrete; Elisabeth was prevented from leaving by an electronic keyless locking system.
The suspect, known as Josef F., was being held in a pretrial detention centre. He faces up to 15 years in prison, if charged and convicted of rape, the most serious of the allegations under Austrian law.
Hans-Heinz Lenze, a senior local official, said the suspect's wife apparently had "no idea'' of what went on and was devastated.
"You have to imagine that this woman's world fell apart,'' he told the Associated Press.
Austrian broadcaster Steven Crilley said neighbours in the sleepy, working-class town were reeling, as many had interacted with members of the family.
"The ones above ground led apparently very normal lives," he told CTV Newsnet on Monday. "People knew the family. They weren't so social but that wasn't a big problem."
Austrians are reeling from the shock of the tragic story, particularly since a similar one surfaced just two years ago when a young woman was found to have been held in a basement cell for eight years after being kidnapped.
Natascha Kampusch, who was 10 years old when she was kidnapped in Vienna in 1998, issued a statement Monday offering emotional and financial help to Elisabeth and her family.

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RE: Austrian Man Holds Daughter Captive For 24 Years - 4/28/2008 8:00:06 PM   
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I saw this on the news today. Sick. I have to wonder though, where exactly did the wife think that the babies were coming from?

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RE: Austrian Man Holds Daughter Captive For 24 Years - 4/28/2008 8:16:40 PM   
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Apparently he told her that they were his daughters and she had dropped them off.
 
This story just makes me feel so completely sick. I hope they put him away for life.
 
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RE: Austrian Man Holds Daughter Captive For 24 Years - 4/28/2008 8:17:57 PM   
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I guess that brings another new dimention to Daddy/Daughter kink.



*ducks and covers* it was sarcasm.

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RE: Austrian Man Holds Daughter Captive For 24 Years - 4/28/2008 8:20:46 PM   
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I was thinking you rarely here about women doing this sort of thing.
What a sick twisted old bastard.
 
My heart goes out to the daughter and the children, they may never get over this.

 
hummmmmmmmmmmm
 
It is a man's world.

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RE: Austrian Man Holds Daughter Captive For 24 Years - 4/28/2008 8:23:04 PM   
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quote:

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I was thinking you rarely here about women doing this sort of thing.
 


 

 



Thats true. I wonder why that is?

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RE: Austrian Man Holds Daughter Captive For 24 Years - 4/28/2008 8:27:26 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: patwi

quote:

ORIGINAL: MzMia

I was thinking you rarely here about women doing this sort of thing 

 



Thats true. I wonder why that is?



I noticed this years ago......
you just have to look around, read and think, and you will get the answer.
Also, many of the women in jail were abused as children.
 Bureau of Justice Statistics Criminal Offenders Statistics

Look at family background, it says  OVER 50% of all women offenders were  physically or sexually abused.
MzMia thinks about this sort of thing a lot.

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RE: Austrian Man Holds Daughter Captive For 24 Years - 4/28/2008 8:40:08 PM   
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I vote for Traditional Chinese Castration (where the entire genitalia is removed instead of just the testes) and placed in general population of a medium security prison with a tattoo on his forehead that reads "Rapist"

<shrugs>
but thats just my opinion

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RE: Austrian Man Holds Daughter Captive For 24 Years - 4/28/2008 8:46:10 PM   
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He should be transformed into a chandelier, to hang by day and to burn by night.

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RE: Austrian Man Holds Daughter Captive For 24 Years - 4/28/2008 8:48:18 PM   
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For those of us that want to SEE some of those involved.
Look at the daughter as a young woman, so attractive.

Austria: Police Probe Claims Man Held Daughter In Cellar For 24 Years |Sky News|World News

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RE: Austrian Man Holds Daughter Captive For 24 Years - 4/28/2008 8:50:47 PM   
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ORIGINAL: mistoferin

I saw this on the news today. Sick. I have to wonder though, where exactly did the wife think that the babies were coming from?


odds are the wife knew. How many cases are there out there to where the husband does something awful, and the wife just "acts" like everything is normal, to preserve the family "image". Anyway, the dude had to have spent a lot of time in his dungeon, the woman would have to be literally retarded not to notice, anything strange. Honey I'm going to the garage... Hear some key pad beeps, big rolling concrete door sliding, then poof he's gone. LOL. And not to mention the story says he's been renovating the dungeon for years, hmmmm, so how did all that dirt get out from under ground, without wifey noticing.

Anyway, women are just as evil as men, just different, my guess she just willfully ignored it, which to me is just as bad.

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RE: Austrian Man Holds Daughter Captive For 24 Years - 4/28/2008 8:53:16 PM   
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Daddy/daughter sex, cages, rape, torture....... all the stuff we crave and emulate daily.
But when it happens, oh dear, they should be shot!  Angry angry angry!  Sick sick sick!

Oh yeah, and the "men are the bad gender, women are the good gender" idiocy some people feel the need to bring into it.

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RE: Austrian Man Holds Daughter Captive For 24 Years - 4/28/2008 8:57:38 PM   
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i am dumb founded by the twisted cerebellum of some folks. i just, sheesh. WTF already??
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RE: Austrian Man Holds Daughter Captive For 24 Years - 4/28/2008 8:58:39 PM   
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ORIGINAL: lilabbotsfordgrl

Daddy/daughter sex, cages, rape, torture....... all the stuff we crave and emulate daily.
But when it happens, oh dear, they should be shot!  Angry angry angry!  Sick sick sick!

Oh yeah, and the "men are the bad gender, women are the good gender" idiocy some people feel the need to bring into it.



long and deep "yawn".
I don't think one gender is better than the other, but men tend to perpetrate this sort of crime more often, that is a fact. 

If you don't think this old dude was sick and twisted, more power to you cupcake.

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RE: Austrian Man Holds Daughter Captive For 24 Years - 4/28/2008 9:10:31 PM   
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I just don't see how someone could do that shit. In my world, he would surely be executed by slow torture. I'd let some of y'all join in the fun, but I would doubt you would like it under the circumstances.

Oh, and did I read this right ? He kept her captive for 24 years and now he might do 15 for it ? Does that sound fair ?

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RE: Austrian Man Holds Daughter Captive For 24 Years - 4/28/2008 9:11:32 PM   
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From the SkyNews article:

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The two oldest children, aged 18 and 19, and the youngest aged 5, had been locked up with their mother since birth and had never seen sunlight or received any education, police said.


Yeah know, I’m against the death penalty but every so often a case comes along that puts that principle to the test (yes, I know Austria doesn’t have the death penalty – I’m just saying). Death would be too good for him anyway, though. But what punishment does fit such a truly evil (and what else could such staggering narcissism and hedonism be called?) crime? I don’t doubt he will go to prison and have to endure whatever the conditions are there but truly poetic justice would be for him to be locked up in that little dungeon he himself made.

And yes, I am dubious to the wife’s claim of ignorance but I’ll hold off judgment for now. If this man could do this to his daughter (and his daughter/granddaughters – weird shit like that is why we have incest taboos) what might he have done to the wife?

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RE: Austrian Man Holds Daughter Captive For 24 Years - 4/28/2008 9:14:49 PM   
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I agree with the last 2 posts.
Can you imagine being locked in that tiny room for 19 years and never seeing daylight or going to school?

Having to watch your grandfather rape your mother also?
I would not be surprised if he was having sex with the children also, he started raping his daughter at age 11.

Who delivered the 7 children? the grandfather? 

I am more concerned with the mental and physical health of the daughter and the children, really.
What type of future do you think THEY have?
 
He is beyond depraved.

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RE: Austrian Man Holds Daughter Captive For 24 Years - 4/28/2008 9:15:07 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: lilabbotsfordgrl

Daddy/daughter sex, cages, rape, torture....... all the stuff we crave and emulate daily.  But when it happens, oh dear, they should be shot!  Angry angry angry!  Sick sick sick!


I can't tell if you are serious or sarcastic.  I don't crave sex with my father.  I don't crave being locked up for 24 years.  I don't crave anything he did to her.

Maybe your cravings are different.

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RE: Austrian Man Holds Daughter Captive For 24 Years - 4/28/2008 9:21:08 PM   
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ORIGINAL: lilabbotsfordgrl

Daddy/daughter sex, cages, rape, torture....... all the stuff we crave and emulate daily.
But when it happens, oh dear, they should be shot!  Angry angry angry!  Sick sick sick!

Oh yeah, and the "men are the bad gender, women are the good gender" idiocy some people feel the need to bring into it.



You are unable to differentiate between what he did and WIITWD...?
Seriously?

I find that very disturbing.

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RE: Austrian Man Holds Daughter Captive For 24 Years - 4/28/2008 9:21:12 PM   
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The world is freaking mad.   
 
Here I come with my oil of pepermint and puts it on the tips of the cock and balls while applying a cock ring to him.  Then, I will happily place a can of wasps and attach them to his pubic hair. 
This one needs some serious face slapping.  
I will start there, and anyone else who would like to proceed with my scene with wasps,  may.
 
Regards, MissSCD
 
I hope I did not offend anyone with this.
 

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