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RE: Legitimate vs. shallow physical requirements - 5/8/2008 7:13:38 AM

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I honestly don't know. I helped her get her courage up to go back to college. I stayed up with her every night, helping her study. I talked with her for weeks, and her sister, when her sister had to get an abortion. I helped guide her into having the strength to confront her father about being abused. I always told her how much I loved her, how wonderful she was, how much better she made my life. It's entirely possible you're right; it's quite likely that there's something glaring that I missed. But I'm too blind to see it.

I know, and I seriously don't WANT to be in a new relationship right now. I'd love to just be training people platonically, actually - play and sex are the furthest things from my mind, except when I think about my ex. I just feel so useless and burnt-out right now.

I have to go off the official topic a bit here. Seriously? You don't sound to me even remotely ready to get into another relationship yet. This is something like the third time you've said something that basically amounts to "I'm NOT over her, not even a little bit". Maybe concentrate on your interests outside of a relationship for a while...try training some girls who want the training in a platonic way. You aren't going to yourself or anyone else any favors getting into a relationship, shallow or not, when you aren't in a place emotionally to do that. Then try reevaluating yourself and your needs and desires when you ARE over her.

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RE: Legitimate vs. shallow physical requirements - 5/8/2008 7:49:54 AM

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ORIGINAL: Ialdabaoth
I know, and I seriously don't WANT to be in a new relationship right now. I'd love to just be training people platonically, actually - play and sex are the furthest things from my mind, except when I think about my ex. I just feel so useless and burnt-out right now.

It's not the time to be asking yourself these questions, you know? Perhaps if you start doing this sort of training platonically, you will find it becomes something you no longer particularly want to train your lover in...many great choreographers did not marry dancers, you know? Maybe you will. And if that's the case, then asking that someone specifically be very interested in doing this is the approach you should take...perhaps the woman you connect with will take a lot of work to bring to this place, perhaps a little...but, at this time, that's very far off in the future for you.
For now, the questions you need to be asking are more along the lines of "have I learned from my failed relationship what I am going to learn from it" and "how do I move on"...and I wish you healing.

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RE: Legitimate vs. shallow physical requirements - 5/8/2008 3:40:35 PM

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The examples you are giving will require a lot of flexiblity and strength. Now, if you are really looking for people to do these things, then simply state on your profile 'This is what I want to do. If you can't do it, sorry but I'm not interested'. You'd probably be surprised at the flexibility of some of us more voluptuous girls.

Oh, I know. One of the girls in our local scene is amazing.

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If it is just that you only want young and skinny, don't try to hide it.

*nods* I'm still working on parsing that out, internally. I think I actually may just want young and skinny, but every time I've believed that that's what I wanted, I've been given indication that those desires are "shallow" and "pathetic". I may have been subconsciously masking my desires by trying to convince myself that they were due to constraints on the kinds of desires I like.

Who exactly are you answereable to? "Shallow and pathetic"??

Tell 'em to go suck the chrome off a trailer hitch.

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RE: Legitimate vs. shallow physical requirements - 5/8/2008 6:36:01 PM

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I don't think anyone needs to justify their preferences that way, though I think that some things can be easier with partners of certain shapes and sizes. Personally, I just know that if someone has a preference for a petite slender creature, that won't be me. I would much rather such preferences were stated than for me to waste time pursuing someone who would think I'm a whale when we got to the point of pictures or in person meeting. Ever so much more delightful to be with someoe who appreciates my curves and doesn't find me any less sexy OR any less easy to work with. (Luckily, I'm also not looking so don't really need to deal with such issues)

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RE: Legitimate vs. shallow physical requirements - 5/8/2008 8:26:10 PM

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I hate replying to anything with more then 3 pages of replies already but this will be quick if anyone actually gets to it:

to me its not about Legitimate vs Shallow. its Preference vs Shallow.

Shallow is someone who Follows their "preferences" Blindly.
I know I strongly prefer dating women who are between 4'10 and 5'3(and those upper 3 inches are seriously pushing it)

but in reality if I meet someone who I have a connection with I will not be SHALLOW enough to say that because they are 5'5" then I won't consider dating them... sure There are many sexuall positions that are much easier for me and my partner when she is below 5'3" but there are hundreds of different positions and we will just find something else that we love to do.

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RE: Legitimate vs. shallow physical requirements - 5/8/2008 8:43:10 PM

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There's nothing wrong with physical requirements. I do feel sorry for the people that hold so rigorously to them that they miss a good thing. Is your preference bettering relationships or keeping you away from them? Because my answer would depend on that.

And how did you get her elbows to touch? I've stretched consistently for six months with very little results. It's starting to make me think it's impossible and you have to be like...super contortionist...to touch your elbows behind your back.

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RE: Legitimate vs. shallow physical requirements - 5/8/2008 9:55:47 PM

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You're quite thin yourself (based on information in your profile), so it doesn't seem unreasonable to me that you prefer partners of a similar body type. Stating a preference doen't seem shallow. If anyone calls you that, they aren't for you, are they? I wouldn't use the term "anorexic" though. You don't want that mess.

I only get annoyed at 300 lb 60 year old men who state a "preference" for 20-something barbies and get pissed off when they don't get it.

I prefer to either be slightly smaller (in weight) or in height than potential partners, so i don't really see it was a D/s thing as much as a guy/girl thing. With very short or thin men, I feel uncomfortable.

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RE: Legitimate vs. shallow physical requirements - 5/8/2008 10:29:31 PM

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There's nothing wrong with physical requirements. I do feel sorry for the people that hold so rigorously to them that they miss a good thing. Is your preference bettering relationships or keeping you away from them? Because my answer would depend on that.

And how did you get her elbows to touch? I've stretched consistently for six months with very little results. It's starting to make me think it's impossible and you have to be like...super contortionist...to touch your elbows behind your back.

The trick is to have them tied together behind your back every night, for about as long as you can deal without your hands going numb - and each night you tie them a little tighter. I like to use self-adhesive PVC tape.

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RE: Legitimate vs. shallow physical requirements - 5/9/2008 5:56:07 AM

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A preference is a preference and it doesn't matter if its shallow or deep you can still drown in it.

http://groups.msn.com/ExtremeContortion/nameofelements.msnw

http://www.jpgmag.com/photos/130851

i tried walking the dog with my arm binders holding my elbows together behind my back while wearing my ballet boots. The damn dog lunged at a squirrel and since i couldn't put my hands out to break my fall, my nose hit the sidewalk first and now my dominant is pissed cuz a broken nose is not within his physical requirements. damn!

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RE: Legitimate vs. shallow physical requirements - 5/9/2008 6:28:52 AM

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A shallow person is one who critizies other peoples choices. I think that shallow and asshole are interchangeable in that respect.

Call me shallow for criticizing a person's choice to rape another person.

Call me shallow for criticizing a person's choice to abusing a child

Call me shallow for criticizing a person's choice to live a racist lifestyle.

Call me shallow for criticizing a person's choice in judgement.

Just call me shallow!

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RE: Legitimate vs. shallow physical requirements - 5/9/2008 6:32:46 AM

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ORIGINAL: eyesopened
Now, about the butt to shoulders thing. i have racked my brain and searched the internet but have not found anything with a spinal cord that can do this. Maybe a snake but it doesn't have shoulders. No primates, not even contorionists, not a bird or a reptile, not even a scorpion cuz the tail meets the head, but not the butt. In fact, if you think about it, the only way to get a butt to meet the shoulders is to have ones head up ones ass...all the way!

No shortage there! Certainly more than 0.001% of the population.

This is nothing less than..............Beautiful!!!

Thank you Eyes... for bringing a smile and a hardy laugh to my life today.

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RE: Legitimate vs. shallow physical requirements - 5/9/2008 6:34:08 AM

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scent....i rely on scent....thats what makes or breaks a partner...

**though Master has the strongest draw of all....all earthy and male**

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RE: Legitimate vs. shallow physical requirements - 5/9/2008 6:41:42 AM

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I prefer to either be slightly smaller (in weight) or in height than potential partners, so i don't really see it was a D/s thing as much as a guy/girl thing. With very short or thin men, I feel uncomfortable.

Not bashing your choice, everyone is entitled to prefrences, as you said. just sharing.

I myself have always found bigger men, bear types, more attractive.

Except that Master is just fucking gorgeous! Like, take my breath away, OMG gorgous!

And there is absolutely nothing sexier in the world, nothing that makes me feel more submissive, than Him having me in heels that cause me to be noticably taller than Him when I am standing next to Him. He is never more dominant than in that moment!

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RE: Legitimate vs. shallow physical requirements - 5/9/2008 6:57:01 AM

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found one that comes close! inches, just inches away!~

http://video.msn.com/?mkt=en-us&vid=1717a70c-84d5-44b0-8125-e90aa9ac7872&playlist=videoByTag:tag:viral:ns:Gallery:mk:us:sf:ActiveStartDate:vs:1&from=MSNHP&tab=m137&GT1=42003

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RE: Legitimate vs. shallow physical requirements - 5/9/2008 7:22:52 AM

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Not even close! He said the butt needs to touch the shoulders, not the head.

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RE: Legitimate vs. shallow physical requirements - 5/9/2008 12:21:01 PM

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I suspect he will have a life time search and never find that perfect sub that can do it, his percent of odds of those that can is way way off....it is near impossible and possibly is, when you consider most contortionsists can't manage

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RE: Legitimate vs. shallow physical requirements - 5/9/2008 2:32:04 PM

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scent....i rely on scent....thats what makes or breaks a partner...

pettingdragons, now, that is really interesting. This year, some university somewhere released a long term study of what scents women found most attractive.

It seems that, according to the study, anyway, (and I am not sure how you codify this for study. how do you get someone's scent into a bottle - or a numerical formula - or whatever?)
that the scent that women are most attracted to is the one that comes closest to the scent of their own fathers, without being exactly like their own fathers.

It embarrasses me to realize how close i come to that stupid prediction.

Master is a smoker. My father has managed to cut down to about 3 or 4 packs a day as he aged, he literally tucked away six packs a day when i was a child. My father currently smokes the nastiest, cheapest cigarettes he can find, but the brand Master smokes is one sub brand away from the national name brand Dad smoked when i was growing up - Master smokes the same thing, only in 'light'
Master uses the same brand of soap Dad used when I was a child, only he uses the shower gel of that brand - one of the national brands aimed at men instead of women.
Master also smells like leather, well cared for boots, and masculinity, in general, at least to me.

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RE: Legitimate vs. shallow physical requirements - 5/9/2008 3:13:12 PM

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Actually, I enjoy having my slave "eyesopened" become shall we say a "human dispensing station"...Now heres the deal, she is given a dousche with liquid detergent and also an enema with carnuba wax, now both these fuck holes are then filled with a dildo that has a siphoning hose attached. whew, once thats done she then gets in her full latex catsuit, with said siphoning hoses protruding, crotch high ballet heels are next, tightly laced into her wasp style corset, full latex hood, with butterfly gag and posture collar, the single glove finishes her outfit...now she goes out and stands next to the Harley to wait for me to come out and wash the bike, being able to draw the soap and wax from her fuck holes as needed...the problem with this is I don't fucking wash my bike, so right now she's standing out there, filled with toxic substances and i'm sure a tad pissed.....speaking of....neighbors dog just used her as a hydrant, gotta run, finish this later..........

"rolling my eyes"

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RE: Legitimate vs. shallow physical requirements - 5/9/2008 10:51:48 PM

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I have been struggling with acknowledging my preferences and creating standards of what i am looking for. I feel like I've been told that in order to be a nice guy i am not allowed to have standards or anything, and that i should just accept people for who they are. This makes perfect sense for interacting with people on a day to day basis, but at the end of the day, i am going to want a certain painting on my wall and certain emotions evoked by the music in the stereo, so really i should be looking for someone who compliments me in mind and asthetics. The end of the day is what matters to me. I guess my response to this is that "shallow" is not a defined term, but a word that people came up with to justify insulting someone who knows what they want (and why would anyone want, at the end of the day, to be with someone who didn't want to be with them?)

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RE: Legitimate vs. shallow physical requirements - 5/10/2008 6:21:34 AM

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pettingdragons, now, that is really interesting. This year, some university somewhere released a long term study of what scents women found most attractive.
It seems that, according to the study, anyway, (and I am not sure how you codify this for study. how do you get someone's scent into a bottle - or a numerical formula - or whatever?)
that the scent that women are most attracted to is the one that comes closest to the scent of their own fathers, without being exactly like their own fathers.
Master also smells like leather, well cared for boots, and masculinity, in general, at least to me.

my father smells like leather and horses.....Master smells all earthy and male...hmmmm that seems to work.....
i will admit i am picky about who i give myself to .....they must be very Dominant in engery..no so much looks...but i have to admit..if all of the parts and pieces arent there then its a problem.....LOL

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