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RE: The Submissive's Handbook - 5/13/2008 9:29:46 AM   
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subtee I would get you padded knee pads. You would be gagged(a woman talking to much thing) so you could shout as much as you wanted to. We would use a community toothbrush. So if you want to clean the floor with it go ahead. It is impolite to laugh at a farting person. Your punishment would be to feed that person a lot of beans and have you kneel (on your new knee pads) behind them. Listen to what your Dom says. Don't throw your head back when singing or you may be garggling that song. Go ahead and hide the clamps. I have an extra pair. Don't worry about the clothes you will be naked anyway. Don't worry about the family reunion your a sub not a slave besides if we where in Kentucky it wouldnt matter anyway. They are all related. I don't mind you falling asleep in a scene . I can only last 4 days straight anyway. Don't worry about if I do you. Worry about when I quit doing you. About those naked pics. I got them mixed up with all of my other subs pics. I can't tell which is you. Send me some new ones.

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RE: The Submissive's Handbook - 5/13/2008 9:48:26 AM   
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ORIGINAL: MrWorf
• You do not have to send naked photos to a Dominant.


Well hot damn!  Why has nobody told me this before now??  I'm off to delete all my naked pics now, since I don't HAVE TO send them out.

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RE: The Submissive's Handbook - 5/13/2008 9:51:52 AM   
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Its not a bad idea  but as long as people use common sense it will be ok.  This might be a guidline  for someone who is in sub frenzy.  It is just that a guideline not a hard and fast rule book.

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RE: The Submissive's Handbook - 5/13/2008 9:55:46 AM   
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• Always trust your gut. If something feels wrong, it probably is. But just becasue it feels right at the moment doesnt gaurantee it will be either.

• Intuition and common sense are your most valuable instincts. Assuming you have them, not everyone seems to.

• Be yourself. Never compromise who you are to gain the attention of a Dominant. If you are not willing to compromise yourself dor a Dominant, be prepared to be turned down quite a bit, since giving yourself to submission means compromise and learning on a lot of levels...

• Some Dominants will never love you. And some will.

• Some Dominants have no desire to f!@#$%& you. And some have no desire aside from that

• You do not have to send naked photos to a Dominant. Unless he/she orders you to, after initial contact as part of some training excercise. You do not have to, of course, but there may be conssequences if you have agreed to obey and then do not.

• Ask questions respectfully, then respectfully question answers. I dont know about anyone else, but if a sub/slave quested every answer I gave them, respectfully or not, Id lose interest very quickly.

• A Dominant who refuses to answer basic questions has something to hide. Define basic questions. Am I married, no problem answering. Where do I love or work... you arent getting that info until I know you REALLY well. Basic or not, there are some thigns you dont need to know right off for privacy and safety sake. Dominant are no less in need of safety than subs are.

• Talk to other subs and Dom/mes before you meet someone new. Get references. References are useless. They a re all subjective, and if someone got out of a relationship that went bad, what they tell you might not be realistic. My exs would tell you I was harsh, bitchy and aweful... why? Becasue I didnt let them do exactly as they pleased whenever they wished. But do you think as a refernce theyd tell you WHY I was so bad? I doubt it.

Chapter 2 - Being safe

• A good Dominant will make sure you feel safe at all times when meeting. Unless you, and he, are into fear play. In which case the idea is not to feel safe...

• Never rush off to another state to meet a Dominant you just met. Be patient.This goes directly against the "Trust your gut" advise up top. If you think it is a good match, and can afford the trip and the time off, then go for it. Meet away, just make sure you have your own hotel room and you do not necessarily stay together for the whole trip. Be safe, which doesnt necessarily mean take your time. If it feels right, go for it.

Chapter 4 - Your Journey

• Never limit yourself to just one source of information. But dont regard any of them as the end all be all. Not al information is sound information.

• Keeping a private journal can help you get to know yourself better. But keep in mind you may not be allowed to keep that journal private if you are in a relationship. A dominant can and may demand t see it.

• Discover who you are in your submission... sub or slave, masochist or no pain, etc. OR just enjoy what you are with whom you are with and relaize that might change with every partner you have.

• Just because you are a sub doesn't mean you shouldn't get your needs met too. But dont put your needs above those of your Dominants, or expect them to meet every need you have right away. They are not mind readers and if you canot tell them what you need, they cannot guess.


Submissives are not idiots. This is a list of "Things I wouldnt do if I were a sub" but it is definately not universal. The ones who would read it dont need it, the ones who could benefit from it would need far more than what you put forward. There are no explinations for anything, no background, just a bunch of BDSM fortune cookie slips of knowledge. For a handbook to be worth anything, there need sot be substance, not just ponderances. Otehrwise its just a quote book.

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RE: The Submissive's Handbook - 5/13/2008 9:58:17 AM   
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ORIGINAL: littleone35

Its not a bad idea  but as long as people use common sense it will be ok.  This might be a guidline  for someone who is in sub frenzy.  It is just that a guideline not a hard and fast rule book.

Matt's littleone


I was thinking this, too - it's a guideline for those who are brand-spankin' new to their submission and have mixed up ideas of what that might mean to them, starting out.  While it's probably true that every single suggestion on that list can be picked apart, it's still a decent read for those who come to the forums lost and asking the most basic of questions.  It's no different than any "BDSM 101" kind of website.  I don't see inherent harm in posting something like this, but it's not for everyone.

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RE: The Submissive's Handbook - 5/13/2008 10:02:16 AM   
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The only inherent harm I see in this is that someone brand spankin' new wouldnt KNOW it is only a base. They would se something posted by whom they would assume are authorities in the lifestyle and take it as fact, not suggestion.

DV


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RE: The Submissive's Handbook - 5/13/2008 10:12:01 AM   
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Talk to other subs and Dom/mes before you meet someone new. Get references.

If they're just entering the lifestyle, everyone is new.  Which references should they trust?


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RE: The Submissive's Handbook - 5/13/2008 10:13:36 AM   
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My exs would tell you I was harsh, bitchy and aweful...
Were those the good references or the bad ones?

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RE: The Submissive's Handbook - 5/13/2008 10:36:03 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Dnomyar

subtee I would get you padded knee pads. You would be gagged(a woman talking to much thing) so you could shout as much as you wanted to. We would use a community toothbrush. So if you want to clean the floor with it go ahead. It is impolite to laugh at a farting person. Your punishment would be to feed that person a lot of beans and have you kneel (on your new knee pads) behind them. Listen to what your Dom says. Don't throw your head back when singing or you may be garggling that song. Go ahead and hide the clamps. I have an extra pair. Don't worry about the clothes you will be naked anyway. Don't worry about the family reunion your a sub not a slave besides if we where in Kentucky it wouldnt matter anyway. They are all related. I don't mind you falling asleep in a scene . I can only last 4 days straight anyway. Don't worry about if I do you. Worry about when I quit doing you. About those naked pics. I got them mixed up with all of my other subs pics. I can't tell which is you. Send me some new ones.


Hahahaha Ray!

~gulp~ 4 days straight?

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RE: The Submissive's Handbook - 5/13/2008 10:36:47 AM   
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ORIGINAL: DiurnalVampire

The only inherent harm I see in this is that someone brand spankin' new wouldnt KNOW it is only a base. They would se something posted by whom they would assume are authorities in the lifestyle and take it as fact, not suggestion.

DV



True, but that could happen no matter what site they go to, or who they talk to.  We can't wrap everyone in bubble wrap (although that could be fun) to keep them safe.  Sometimes kids have to skin their knees to learn how to watch their step. 

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RE: The Submissive's Handbook - 5/13/2008 10:38:33 AM   
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Four days Ray?  You're supposed to seek medical attention after four hours.  Maybe put on your glasses to read the warning on the viagra bottle???

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RE: The Submissive's Handbook - 5/13/2008 11:32:29 AM   
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Cali I tried to delete your pics but I hit the send button by mistake. So now you may finally get an email from someone.

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RE: The Submissive's Handbook - 5/13/2008 11:39:13 AM   
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Oh great.  Now I gotta go find out what pics I sent Ray.  Hopefully the ones of some curvy, gorgeous chick instead of me. 

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RE: The Submissive's Handbook - 5/13/2008 11:53:02 AM   
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I found the curvy gorgeous chick ones. I just sent the ones of you.

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RE: The Submissive's Handbook - 5/13/2008 11:55:09 AM   
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Okay, then nothing to worry about.  Jeeeeez. 


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RE: The Submissive's Handbook - 5/13/2008 11:59:25 AM   
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Hugs ya up cause you can take funning.

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RE: The Submissive's Handbook - 5/13/2008 12:26:48 PM   
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Chapter 223
  • Just use one peice of toilet paper. You don't need to wrap half the roll around your hand to get your crack clean. Think of the trees.
  • Wash both hands before leaving the bathroom.
  • Brush for, at least 2 minutes in each sector of your mouth. Circular motions. Think "Wax on, Wax off".
  • Use the correct postage on each envelope you mail, otherwise it will be sent back or lost.
  • Call your mother. She misses you.
  • Liquid dish soap is not a replacement for dishwasher detergent.
  • If the lamp is not working, try changing the bulb first.
  • Turn that light off when you leave the room.

(Feel free to add in, guys and girls. We need to make sure this book is complete)

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RE: The Submissive's Handbook - 5/13/2008 1:06:02 PM   
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ORIGINAL: MadRabbit

Chapter 223
  • Just use one peice of toilet paper. You don't need to wrap half the roll around your hand to get your crack clean. Think of the trees.
  • Wash both hands before leaving the bathroom.
  • Brush for, at least 2 minutes in each sector of your mouth. Circular motions. Think "Wax on, Wax off".
  • Use the correct postage on each envelope you mail, otherwise it will be sent back or lost.
  • Call your mother. She misses you.
  • Liquid dish soap is not a replacement for dishwasher detergent. This is SOOO TRUE !!
  • If the lamp is not working, try changing the bulb first.
  • Turn that light off when you leave the room.

(Feel free to add in, guys and girls. We need to make sure this book is complete)


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RE: The Submissive's Handbook - 5/13/2008 1:40:51 PM   
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ORIGINAL: subtee

Those are really, really good, but I would like some other, more practical answers provided please:
 
quote:

What if my knees develop calluses, what kind of salve or balm should I use? 

Cocoa Butter or Petrolium Jelly work equally well. 

quote:

What would be a better thing to say, rather than, “Ow fucker-OW fucker-OW FUCKER!” 

How about, "Oh Master-OH Master-OH MASTER!"?

quote:

Is it wrong, when ordered to clean the bathroom with a toothbrush to use his?

Depends, just how badly do you hate the S.O.B.?
 
quote:

If so, does he need to know about it?

Only if you need to give him a reason to release you or put you on the rack.

quote:

You said not to laugh at other people’s scenes, but…what if it’s really, really funny? Like, what if the Dom’s whip misses, gets wrapped around his own neck choking off his air supply and causing him to trip and fall face first into his submissive’s ass, causing her to fart loudly? Still no laughing?

Try muffled snickering, until you can get excused to use the powder room and let it all out.

quote:

What if your Dom says your safeword is “continue doing that no matter what?” 

Get a clue and a new Dom.

quote:

When being peed on, is it okay to lather it into your hair and sing, “I’m gonna wash that man right outta my hair”…? 

Sure but, only if you can't sing any of these songs:  Yellow Submarine, Big Yellow Taxi, Tie A Yellow Ribbon, Yellow Rose of Texas, Goodbye Yellow Brick Road, or, my all time favorite, Mellow Yellow -- "They call me mellow yellow (Quite rightly), They call me mellow yellow (Quite rightly)"

quote:

Is it okay to accidently hide clover clamps? (Okay on this one I’m pretty much serious.)

No, it's not.

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What should a sub do if her Dom picks out her clothes but has no fashion sense?

Ask if it would be okay to go naked?

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When at a family reunion, who should a slave call “Daddy,” her Daddy or…her…Daddy?

Tricky......Possible solution:  Use "Dad" or "Father, dearest" for daddy and "Daddy" for Daddy.

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If a sub falls asleep during a scene is it okay to claim it was subspace?

Works for me.

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If my master won’t “do me,” how can I get him to “do me” without being a “do me” sub?

No solution for this, other than to learn to "do yourself" when necessary.

quote:

You said “you do not have to send naked pics to a dominant”…is that a typo? Should that have read, “you have to send naked pics to a dominant?” (If not, could all the Doms please destroy the pics you’ve received from subtee? Thank you.)

No comment.
 
Note:  Use these tips at your own discretion and at your own risk. 
 
(The above was all tongue-in-cheek, of course.  Thanks for the comic relief, subtee.)
 
Edited to add:  All right, not all of these were tongue-in-cheek. 

joy
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RE: The Submissive's Handbook - 5/13/2008 1:56:14 PM   
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I think the list is fine as long as it isn't given credit for being more than it is. These sorts of things have their place, like the lists of safety precautions I frequently found on "vanilla" dating sites. Sometimes people do dumb things and while you can't run around being a white knight, I don't think a list like this existing is a bad thing. The advice here doesn't strike me as much different than what I read in SM 101, just put into a bulleted list for easy reference.

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