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Getting into sub space - 5/19/2008 9:33:10 AM   
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I would like to know some techniques for getting someone into their "sub space" without any physical contact. What kinds of things are useful, what are not?

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RE: Getting into sub space - 5/19/2008 9:39:04 AM   
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Well, it may not be possible. I've heard of people talking of it but honestly, I don't really see how it's possible. Subspace is a product of massively produced endorphins. I can only go to subspace from the physical and I can do that pretty easily....I've travelled that road enough times to know exactly how to get there. I can go into a different headspace from a look or a touch....a word....but it is definitely not the same as subspace. I might call it a deeply submissive headspace....or a dropping into place....but not subspace. Sometimes I think people confuse the two.

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RE: Getting into sub space - 5/19/2008 9:50:33 AM   
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well you havent had hot wax done then...this usually does it for me...a long 1-2 hour wax session.  poured continously from neck down.

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RE: Getting into sub space - 5/19/2008 9:55:18 AM   
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I would like to know some techniques for getting someone into their "sub space" without any physical contact. What kinds of things are useful, what are not?

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RE: Getting into sub space - 5/19/2008 10:21:56 AM   
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Mmmmm for you women sit on my lap and look into my eyes. You can get someone turned on but not enough to get them into sub space.

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RE: Getting into sub space - 5/19/2008 10:37:39 AM   
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well you havent had hot wax done then...this usually does it for me...a long 1-2 hour wax session.  poured continously from neck down.


Ummmm  silly.....that IS physical.

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RE: Getting into sub space - 5/19/2008 10:40:08 AM   
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Ummmm silly.....that IS physical.


but not at the hands or touch of a human.  thus no physical contact from partner.    the op said "without physical contact"



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RE: Getting into sub space - 5/19/2008 10:41:30 AM   
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LOL....I think he was looking for some things he could use online or over the phone.

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RE: Getting into sub space - 5/19/2008 10:41:30 AM   
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I have only got there once and it was physical and I feel I have to be in the right  mental frame of mind  at the same time and it felt sooo good... but despite  several other sessions I have not reached that point again    LOL if only it was that easy to do without the physical


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RE: Getting into sub space - 5/19/2008 10:44:13 AM   
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Maya you need a good hungarian. Only getting a woman to subspace is for beginners and whimps.

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RE: Getting into sub space - 5/19/2008 10:47:48 AM   
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LOL....I think he was looking for some things he could use online or over the phone.


Which actually brings me to another point. If I misinterpreted I do apologize but....you would not want someone you were not in direct attendance of to go into subspace.

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RE: Getting into sub space - 5/19/2008 10:52:51 AM   
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I am talking about getting a sub into her comfort zone over the phone or the internet, or even in person without contact of any sort.

Dripping wax is physical contact just the same as paddling or whipping, don't you think?

And if all you have are jokes, then please don't waste my time. I can go see Gallagher and get that.

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RE: Getting into sub space - 5/19/2008 10:53:44 AM   
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Maya you need a good hungarian. Only getting a woman to subspace is for beginners and whimps.


Is that  what is wrong !!!    I better place a call to my aunts and uncles over in Hungary and tell  them  wrap one up and send   rushed delivery 


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RE: Getting into sub space - 5/19/2008 10:55:21 AM   
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Perhaps I did use the wrong term. Subspace it isn't. But a place where he/she is receptive.
Sorry.

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RE: Getting into sub space - 5/19/2008 10:57:21 AM   
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More like setting a mood.

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RE: Getting into sub space - 5/19/2008 10:58:00 AM   
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It depends.  First of all, how do you define "subspace"?  Then, are you looking to do this as a warm-up to a more physical scene, or are you looking to do it from a distance (online or phone)?  Does the person in question enjoy name-calling and humiliation?  And, what's your relationship with the person in question? 

There are plenty of couples where the sub gets into more submissive headspace simply by hearing the Dom use a particular name.  That, obviously, can be done over the phone or the internet. 
Also name-calling and other verbal humiliation can do it for some people, I imagine, and they don't need physical contact.
You can direct a sub to assume certain positions and do things over the phone- they can pinch their own nipples, apply clothespins to delicate places, etc.  But it's never going to be as intense as it is in person.


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RE: Getting into sub space - 5/19/2008 11:03:42 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: gordie452000

I am talking about getting a sub into her comfort zone over the phone or the internet, or even in person without contact of any sort.

Dripping wax is physical contact just the same as paddling or whipping, don't you think?

And if all you have are jokes, then please don't waste my time. I can go see Gallagher and get that.


Getting into a comfort zone is created by going slowly and building trust it is not the same thing as sub space..  Subspace is a sensation like floating, soaringt ,  leaving your body  and sometimes may result it the sub collapsing or other strange reactions ..., when endorphins levels  get high it can cause rapid heart rates and changes in breathing, glucose levels can drop severely  which can result in complications  some subs come down very hard can become chilled and start shivering  it is not something you want to create online, as medical emergencies could result from . 

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RE: Getting into sub space - 5/19/2008 11:09:58 AM   
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gordie your 50 years old and claim to be  Dom. When you say getting someone into subspace are we talking about men or women?  I don't think thast you can use the same approach on both.

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RE: Getting into sub space - 5/19/2008 12:52:05 PM   
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I am talking about getting a sub into her comfort zone over the phone or the internet, or even in person without contact of any sort.


A few years ago I wrote a post about the "zone" I think you are talking about. This is what I wrote....is this close?:
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There is a feeling that I have gotten from the Dominants who I have been with in my life that I am at a loss for a name for. In talking with other submissives I have found that I am certainly not the only one who gets this feeling, although I have never heard an actual name put to it.

It is the feeling that you get when you are chatting and laughing with your girlfriends at a munch and your Dominant walks up and strokes your hair, the feeling that you get when your eyes meet from across a crowded room, the feeling that you get when you are hurrying around waiting for Him to come home with butterflies in your stomach...and He walks in and puts His arms around you, the feeling you get when you're balancing the checkbook and he comes up and strokes your cheek......the list goes on and on.

The only way that I can really describe the feeling with any accuracy is to say that it is very much like the feeling that you get when you sit down to nurse a baby and that intense calm comes over you when the oxytocin is released into your body. It is like you can feel your mind stop racing, your heart rate and breathing slow and you become enveloped by a calm and serene cloud. It is sometimes as profound as a shot of Valium.

I have always described the feeling as a "settling into place", because quite often it comes at a time when I am pre-occupied with anything other than submission, and it instantly puts me into "submissive mode".  


Also, around the same time frame I wrote another post, one that describes the type of man who can put me in that "zone"
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I think I understand the "It" although I am not sure I can verbalize it very well myself. I have felt the "It" on several occasions, not only coming from my own Master but also from others in the community that have "It". The things that the dominants that i feel "It' from seem to have in common are that they are all very respectable, honorable men who have that air about them that tells you that they are very real and sincere in their pursuit of this lifestyle, but also that they are self assured and in control of their lives. They are like Father figures and have qualities about them that make one feel safe and comfortable in their presence. I know that the "It" for me is an overwhelming feeling that I would just like to curl up in their lap like a cat and be stroked. This is not to say it is at all common, I have been living this life for many years now and can probably count on my fingers the number of dominants who I know that I feel have "It".


Beyond what I have written, I don't think that there is anything that they have consciously "done" to trigger that response in me. I think it boils down to having built trust and a high degree of respect between you and your submissive.

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RE: Getting into sub space - 5/19/2008 12:56:24 PM   
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Ask Scottie to beam you up.

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