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RE: Getting into sub space - 5/19/2008 12:57:16 PM   
SensibleSam


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Status: offline 		Just say the magic words: "Samantha, sub space now".

Of course this works best if the sub is in fact named Samantha.

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RE: Getting into sub space - 5/19/2008 1:00:41 PM   
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RE: Getting into sub space - 5/19/2008 1:22:13 PM   
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Status: offline 		Thinking more on this I think that an easier way to describe it is that her "zone" is a direct response to an energy that you have about you. Your energy is the catalyst for the change in hers. I don't know if there is actually anything you can "do" to achieve this because I really don't understand that energy. I know that there are certain dominants who I have felt it from....but just because I don't feel it from one does not mean it that it doesn't exist within him....it only means that I'm not on the same wavelength if you will and I am not receptive to it. I have seen my girlfriends experience the same thing with their dominants....but I don't necessarily perceive that energy coming from them. Maybe some of the other dominants here might be of more assistance.

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RE: Getting into sub space - 5/19/2008 3:43:22 PM   
Prinsexx


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Mmmmm for you women sit on my lap and look into my eyes. You can get someone turned on but not enough to get them into sub space.

Why is it that some Doms seem to think they always know what gets a sub into sub space? Unfortuneately what gets me into subspace isn't always that. My sub-space is that part of me which I own  regardless of who owns the rest of me. Contentious feisty type that I am.



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RE: Getting into sub space - 5/19/2008 4:47:36 PM   
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Status: offline 		What you are asking about and seeking is called...*mental submission*...
 
Some are able to achieve *it*...some never....will.
 
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RE: Getting into sub space - 5/19/2008 5:19:51 PM   
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RE: Getting into sub space - 5/19/2008 5:22:13 PM   
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ORIGINAL: gordie452000

I would like to know some techniques for getting someone into their "sub space" without any physical contact. What kinds of things are useful, what are not?

thanks


It's possible - we've done it over the phone. But it's difficult and doesn't always happen. What I've experieced may not even what you want since I'm usually doing something to myself at his command. It's not something I could begin to tell you how to do for anyone other than me. The best I can say is to find out what makes the person tick when it comes to their submission and their space.

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RE: Getting into sub space - 5/19/2008 6:12:05 PM   
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Status: offline 		A good mind fuck can put me into subspace. Endorphins are released in response to any stressful stimulus to the body not just pain. Making the mind race gets the adrenaline rolling and sub space sets in.

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RE: Getting into sub space - 5/19/2008 6:16:34 PM   
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Status: offline 		i think going to subspace requires a huge amount of trust and security and being able to feel open and relaxed as well.   i've never been able to acheive all of those things at the same time with anyone but i'm working hard on it.

edited to add: since i've never been to subspace, i' dont know for sure if the things i suggested would help or not. and since i'm not a pain slut, that route wouldn't really work for me...maybe i'm a lost cause.

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RE: Getting into sub space - 5/19/2008 6:48:45 PM   
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Status: offline 		Mistoferin .. excellent posts - thank you so much for sharing your thoughts. 

OP - I've experienced something very similar to what you're asking about.  I haven't experienced subspace in any way, but I have, during phone conversations with my Daddy, 'floated'.  It happened just today - it's the tone of his voice, the suggestive words he uses that triggers a very submissive headspace for me.  It's a physical reaction, my reactions slow, my voice drops, my eyes close.  I'm pretty unaware of my surroundings.  Just lovely and floaty.  I don't know how he does it - I probably attribute it to our connection which is intense. 

I've had plenty of suggestive, sexy phone calls in the past, but none have put me into this lovely place.  ::sigh::

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RE: Getting into sub space - 5/19/2008 8:03:29 PM   
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http://www.collarchat.com/m_622770/mpage_1/key_subspace/tm.htm#622894
Crazy First Subspace

http://www.collarchat.com/m_549476/mpage_1/key_subspace/tm.htm#549596
blocked out scene or inaccurate memory?

http://www.collarchat.com/m_521560/mpage_1/key_subspace/tm.htm#521654
A question about "subspace"

http://www.collarchat.com/m_514967/mpage_1/key_subspace/tm.htm#515095
Different views of subspace and subdrop

http://www.collarchat.com/m_238766/mpage_2/key_subspace/tm.htm#280229
How quick do you go into subspace?

http://www.collarchat.com/m_440912/mpage_1/key_subspace/tm.htm#441045
Was this subspace?

http://www.collarchat.com/m_537506/mpage_1/key_subspace/tm.htm#537508
Subspace ??

What is SUBSPACE?

Subspace...?

Subspace

Subspace can you control it?

Subspace?

Not talking subspace...or sub drop...so what is it?

Subspace or just fantasy land?

Subspace safe?

Subspace or subdrop anyone?

Subspace? (2)

A thing called subspace


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RE: Getting into sub space - 5/19/2008 8:25:55 PM   
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Status: offline 		Hmmmmmmm All I need is a switch blade or any locking blade. I can stand behind my lil one and just open and close the knives and she goes into subspace. There is no phyical contact at all. Her pupils change her breathing changes and her skin gets that flushed look with no phyical contact.

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RE: Getting into sub space - 5/20/2008 12:35:27 AM   
MasterFireMaam


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Status: offline 		Things that send me to non-ordinary reality without any help at all.

Breathing techniques...a slight hyperventalition to loud, tribal music often works.

Energy techniques...having her be aware of energy and how to pull it up and through her.

Deep prayer.

Mummification/sensory deprivation.

You can also train her by stimulus/response using masturbation to sexualize just about anything...so when she hears, sees or smells something, it can send her.


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RE: Getting into sub space - 5/20/2008 1:41:42 AM   
ExSteelAgain


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Status: offline 		Overlooking the ambiguity of the original post, I, too, find the best way is to be sexual with experienced players. Sexual excitement can make a submissive receptive to lots and when you combine it with BDSM fantasies she can become helpless and even space. I don’t try to put someone in a dangerous place mentally/physically such as spacing can create, but it has happened.

There was one time in particular when I was on the phone with an experienced spacer (Ha, love that term). I’m not saying it was necessarily me, but maybe more her make-up to become totally mesmerized by a Dom concentrating on her. She would space and become helpless for awhile no matter where she was on the phone. Once I learned that I was careful with her.   

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RE: Getting into sub space - 5/20/2008 2:28:33 AM   
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Status: offline 		I think I would be the same way if someone was standing behind me holding a knife, it's called fear.  In fact I experienced a mugging, or rather they attempted to mug me and I don't think a word was said, they just stuck a knife to my back.  I don't mean to make light of your comments, but is a reaction to a situation really getting into you sub space, or is there more to it than that. 

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RE: Getting into sub space - 5/20/2008 6:07:28 AM   
cjan


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ORIGINAL: mistoferin

Thinking more on this I think that an easier way to describe it is that her "zone" is a direct response to an energy that you have about you. Your energy is the catalyst for the change in hers. I don't know if there is actually anything you can "do" to achieve this because I really don't understand that energy. I know that there are certain dominants who I have felt it from....but just because I don't feel it from one does not mean it that it doesn't exist within him....it only means that I'm not on the same wavelength if you will and I am not receptive to it. I have seen my girlfriends experience the same thing with their dominants....but I don't necessarily perceive that energy coming from them. Maybe some of the other dominants here might be of more assistance.


I think this is a very interesting point. Of course, everyone is different and one shoe will never fit all. Even so, it is something to consider. Thanks, erin.


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RE: Getting into sub space - 5/20/2008 7:33:32 AM   
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Status: offline 		It's my personal opinion that, yes, it can be done.  However, I only have the information from others who say I have done it to them.  This isn't verifiable truth, since I really only have their word for it.

With this said, I really don't have advice for you.  The only reason I was able to get anyone 'floaty' through phone or chat, was because I knew *them* and was connected with *them*.  What I used worked for that person at that time.  I highly doubt it would work for someone that I didn't know what buttons to push or what made their mind race.  The times I have been able to achieve this with someone was because I had information about what makes them tick.

Getting to Top space without physical stimulation absolutely happens for me.  The easiest example of this would be put me in the right mind frame and let me watch a good demo, thinking of how I want to do the very same thing to my boy in our own scene later.  Anyone around me knows I'm there just by looking in my eyes.  There are one or two other physical characteristics that give it away also, but I'll keep this post G rated.

Funny, but true.  Editted for a spacing mistake.


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