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ORIGINAL: randsboy A sub is somewhat similar to a boy, in that it has greater latitude where in to work and has the freedom to discuss a scene with the top both before and afterand offer its point of view without repercussion. What is it you mean by 'boy', exactly? Is it similar to a bottom, or is it only males? quote:
Whereas a slave would need to ask permission to speek before providing insite and is less likely to provide it, due to the whims of the Master. I disagree. While certainly, in some relationships there may be no discussion of wants and needs for play, it's by no means universal. I identify most strongly as slave, and I've never had to ask for permission to speak. I may get involved with someone who wants that, but chances are, I won't. My intelligence and ability to hold a conversation, plus my ability to add insight, are good things, and not to be squandered. The person I choose to be involved with will have similar outlooks. quote:
Both have limits, yet the slave's limits are always being push further, many times without total consent. A boy has the privilage to stop a scene. The slave is never involved with a scene as per a contract and has become a comodityto its Master for trade. A safe word in both instances have the same meaning with the twist that a slave's may only mean a pause, whereas a sub's means to stop the scene completely and review. That depends on the relationship, the people involved, and what their negotiations entailed. I've had a stopword that meant stop right now, as per the decision of my ex. Anyone can stop a scene, how it's done depends on the dynamics. quote:
i am a slave 24/7/365 and am a member of a leather boys group, yet have fewer rights than most of the boys, as i must obey my Master implicently and a boy can say 'no'. That may be how your relationship works, but among those I socialise with, everyone has rights. You can't take away basic human rights, nor rights that the government of your country has given you. A submissive and slave should obey their owner, it's part of the position. But I believe they have the right to confirm orders by asking questions, and if the orders in question should do more harm than good, then it's their place to ask their owner, or to tell them no (with respect). Protecting the owner's property should be number 1 on the list, or up close, anyway.
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