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RE: Tampa to erect a huge Confederate flag - 6/6/2008 9:04:34 AM   
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Good for you, Greedy. It wouldn't have been worth it: doing harm to others only turns back against you eventually. Even if the people in question are complete turds... it must have been hard to resist the temptation though  .

My god, but I just realised... so you saw 'it' up close?


yeah..it was one of the more difficult things I've had to resist... and yes, almost every day... *puke*

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RE: Tampa to erect a huge Confederate flag - 6/6/2008 10:47:27 AM   
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Well I tried reading all of this but it was growing too quickly.

First I grew up in the south.  When I was a kid I liked the Confederate flag.  It meant pride in where you from.  The term "the south shall rise again" meant that we wouldn't stay on the bottom in education or economics nothing to do with war or being better than anyone.  I don't recall having any racist thoughts regarding the flag or anything.  I did run into some real assholes who were huge redneck racists who said all sorts of things but there were generally thought of as uneducated by everyone that I knew.

Over the years, too many "hate" groups have used southern symbols and slogan to promote their hate-filled agendas.  It made me become leery of places and people that proudly show the Confederate flag.  I don't think I would put that flag up anymore because of the groups that associated that meaning with it.  I don't blame people that are offended by the flag, I blame the people that made the flag offensive.  I also feel the same way about some groups that are tarnishing Christian symbols by their hate filled attitudes.

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RE: Tampa to erect a huge Confederate flag - 6/6/2008 11:00:31 AM   
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Pink Triangles & Hello Kitty -> http://img386.imageshack.us/img386/4382/kkkrainbowpg1.jpg


I blew soda out my nose.. that so rocks! so now the KKK stands for Kinky Kitty Klub?


Glad I could help clean your nasal passages!

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RE: Tampa to erect a huge Confederate flag - 6/6/2008 5:46:21 PM   
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I blew soda out my nose.. that so rocks! so now the KKK stands for Kinky Kitty Klub?





heh
now thats funny, i dont care who ya are



*snickers*

Git R Dun!

*chuckles*

I prefer Ron White though.

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RE: Tampa to erect a huge Confederate flag - 6/6/2008 5:48:07 PM   
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ya can't fix stupid......

*grin*


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RE: Tampa to erect a huge Confederate flag - 6/6/2008 5:59:35 PM   
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Stone Mountain is indeed a hotbed of Klan activity, just like Cobb County (where I live) has a septic tankload of Dominionists.

For those that claim it's a reminder of their "roots" <guffaw> I have one thing to say:
J.B.Stoner


ack.. Dominionists... now those are some scary Mofos...

*shudders*

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RE: Tampa to erect a huge Confederate flag - 6/6/2008 6:04:52 PM   
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ORIGINAL: MusicalBoredom

Well I tried reading all of this but it was growing too quickly.

First I grew up in the south.  When I was a kid I liked the Confederate flag.  It meant pride in where you from.  The term "the south shall rise again" meant that we wouldn't stay on the bottom in education or economics nothing to do with war or being better than anyone.  I don't recall having any racist thoughts regarding the flag or anything.  I did run into some real assholes who were huge redneck racists who said all sorts of things but there were generally thought of as uneducated by everyone that I knew.

Over the years, too many "hate" groups have used southern symbols and slogan to promote their hate-filled agendas.  It made me become leery of places and people that proudly show the Confederate flag.  I don't think I would put that flag up anymore because of the groups that associated that meaning with it.  I don't blame people that are offended by the flag, I blame the people that made the flag offensive.  I also feel the same way about some groups that are tarnishing Christian symbols by their hate filled attitudes.



I think you've put it very well indeed.

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RE: Tampa to erect a huge Confederate flag - 6/6/2008 6:08:17 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Hippiekinkster

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dominion_Theology
Also known as Xtain (I refuse to dirty the word Christian when referring to these scumbags) Reconstructionism.

Everybody's heard of J.B. down here. At least those who have lived in GA for any length of time.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JB_Stoner


yeppers.. Good ol Stoner *sighs*

During his Senate campaign, the FCC ruled that television stations had to play his ads due to the fairness doctrine. His ads included the word "n" and claims by Stoner that "The main reason why the n want integration is because n want our white women".

( I clipped the word)

He was also one of the ones who would go on and on about it was all about states rights... hell the ones who want to restirct rights from gays go on and on about states rights.. and "activist judges" it is *exactly* what they said about blacks in thier civil rights movement. Just a new gen. of them.. and thier papis and grand papis.

Gwyn



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RE: Tampa to erect a huge Confederate flag - 6/6/2008 6:17:03 PM   
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interesting points Ken

i know wikipedia isnt known for being totally accurate-but this page seemed to be complete and showed many versions of what i consider to be the confederate flag.   the designs changed somewhat but almost all incorporated the x with the stars, which is the part seeming to piss so many off.  there is no pic on the op article that i could see....so my question is....would any version of this flag, with the x and stars, be acceptable to you?

im really trying to see the other side here........cause as a chickie from the shout, i honestly just do not get it.



Okay I have a really dumb question ... and I have read parts of this thread.... but I want to know if I am reading the quote right .. that the part of this whole thing ( besides the fact they are gonna put up a conf. flag ) is that it has an X with stars in it .... why does that piss anyone off.... its an X for god's sake ... and there are stars in it ???? I guess I don't understand ......  could someone please answer that for me .... I am having a brain fart :)

peace


It's a bit like putting up a three arce nazi flag,in the castro district in san francisco.



That summed it up nicely.. thank you.

We do have a local govt council that said Hillsborough would not host and have anything to do with any Gay Pride event ever again. http://www.sptimes.com/2005/06/16/Hillsborough/Hillsborough_bans_cou.shtml

Thankfuly Pam, the City of Tampa's Mayor goes against it left and right. *bless her heart*  ( She has been to my church- love her!)




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RE: Tampa to erect a huge Confederate flag - 6/6/2008 6:32:46 PM   
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ORIGINAL: MusicalBoredom

Well I tried reading all of this but it was growing too quickly.

First I grew up in the south.  When I was a kid I liked the Confederate flag.  It meant pride in where you from.  The term "the south shall rise again" meant that we wouldn't stay on the bottom in education or economics nothing to do with war or being better than anyone.  I don't recall having any racist thoughts regarding the flag or anything.  I did run into some real assholes who were huge redneck racists who said all sorts of things but there were generally thought of as uneducated by everyone that I knew.

Over the years, too many "hate" groups have used southern symbols and slogan to promote their hate-filled agendas.  It made me become leery of places and people that proudly show the Confederate flag.  I don't think I would put that flag up anymore because of the groups that associated that meaning with it.  I don't blame people that are offended by the flag, I blame the people that made the flag offensive.  I also feel the same way about some groups that are tarnishing Christian symbols by their hate filled attitudes.



This is exactly it..


Thank you!

I am not upset at the flag.. or the South.. or any of that non-sense...

I am *pissed* at the dumbasses that took it and turned a flag that some saw as a symbol of regional pride ( My Ma-ma's from TN ya'll ) and turned it into something deplorable.

*they* _tainted_ it.

Just like some places in Germany.. you only really think of one thing travling through them.. Oh geez... the concentration camp is here... .

That whole town has been _tainted_ by what was done there. Hell to some the German people as a whole. ( I do not agree with that.. but when you think German.. most now a days think SS and back to the 40's. they don't think of Beir and knockwersts.)

again I blame the people who tainted it and ruined it for everyone.

Gwyn

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RE: Tampa to erect a huge Confederate flag - 6/6/2008 6:33:55 PM   
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ya can't fix stupid......

*grin*



So true...

*chuckles*

Gwyn

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