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ORIGINAL: Hippiekinkster
Kudzu, however, was the perfect conductor.

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ORIGINAL:  Irishknight
1) Whether or not people's "rights" were being violated, they believed it and were willing to fight for the way of life they feared they would lose.  To waste time with you continually saying "What rights?" is ridiculous and I have niether the time nor inclination.  I could play the same game whenever anyone starts whining about how their rights are being taken away today.  The belief was there and they fought and died for that belief.

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ORIGINAL:  Irishknight
2) Why not put the US Flag on the car and call it the "General Grant?"  Please.  We're going for pure aesthetics here.  The car would not have looked half as cool and people would have whined about the misuse of the American flag in that manner.

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ORIGINAL:  Irishknight
3) Why should we in the south not just "Get the fuck over it?"  Why don't you forget your family history and the way your family lived in past times.  Its our country's history and we want to remember it .... the good and the bad.  Why don't you ask the jews to get the fuck over the holocaust or the indians to get the fuck over the trail of tears. 
For those of you who have yet to realize it, the truth of the situation doesn't sit in your high school history book that you probably didn't even open.  There is only the tip of the iceberg in there.  There are numerous reprintoings of leyyers and diaries from those years in libraries today.  Look for them and read what those people went through and what they fought for.  Maybe then you can see why we're "American by birth.  Douthern by the grace of God (or whichever deity you worship)." 

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After living in the north for 9 abysmal years, you guys can have it.

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ORIGINAL: slaveboyforyou
You don't have to work outside during the summers by the way unless you dropped out of high school.

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ORIGINAL: slaveboyforyou
You should read the entire post before you make comments.  Of course people get poked at because of their accents.  But, not a lot of folks are retiring in New York.  It's not something they have to hear from people that live there. 

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ORIGINAL: slaveboyforyou
Actually I don't know that, because it's not a fact.  "Yankee" has a number of different meanings and no one is precisely sure of it's origin.  It's been used by Southernors in reference to Northerners well after the American Civil War.  If you'd read a little more, you'd know that.  I told you before to stop getting your philosophy and history from action movies, Smith. 

• A soldier identified as a Patriot during the American Revolutionary War
• A Union soldier during the American Civil War
• Swamp Yankee, a rural resident of Rhode Island or Connecticut with colonial ancestry

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You do know that "Yankees" were a side during the Civil War....that ended (with a southern LOSS) centuries ago, right?

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It's been used by Southernors in reference to Northerners well after the American Civil War.

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Sure you can it's called "On the job training."
Wow, $20 an hour! Golllllll-eeee!

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ORIGINAL: Irishknight

Strange.  A Texan who fails to realize that his state was on the same side as mine during the conflict and that they lost just like the rest of us.  As for "winning your war." look up a little history.  The Four Winds Cherokee Confederation leant their braves to Sam Houston to defeat the Mexicans in return for citizenship.  They were paid back by returning home to find their wives and children slaughtered by settlers and the bodiesof their loved ones burning in piles.  They killed the men and sent the women and children running back to the nearest group of white men.  For their service and winning your war, they were robbed, their families nurdered and they were hunted down like animals.  Something to be proud of there.

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Sure you can it's called "On the job training."
Wow, $20 an hour! Golllllll-eeee!

So I suppose you think that cops are dropouts too? They make roughly that amount and they work outdoors A LOT.

Though....last I saw....they required a college degree or a substantial amount of college hours to be a cop.

Funny that.

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ORIGINAL: popeye1250
No it doesn't, not in Massachusetts anyway.
All you have to do is pass a Civil Service exam.
And if you're a minority you only have to get a 35 on the exam!
It's called "Affirmative Action."
High school drop out? "No Problem!"
And the ones that they hired during the 70's and 80's couldn't even read or write that well that's why they had to send them to Northeastern U. for "remedial" reading and writing courses because they couldn't make out a proper police or fire report.

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ORIGINAL: Smith117
So I suppose you think that cops are dropouts too? They make roughly that amount and they work outdoors A LOT.

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ORIGINAL: Smith117
So I suppose you think that cops are dropouts too? They make roughly that amount and they work outdoors A LOT.

I wouldn't call riding between doughnut shops in an air-conditioned police cruiser working "outdoors"......

And the ones standing outside office buildings directing traffic? they're off duty cops getting paid by the property (at least here in Houston that's the case).

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Let's see.....a state whose governor did NOT want to succeede........becoming a "supply state" during the war until its neighbor was taken by the North. Hmmm. Let's see now.....take on an entire group of states, whilst cut off from any and all support, costing many Texan lives....or 'play along' until it suited us not to. Seems like a no-brainer to me.

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ORIGINAL: camille65

I guess it's weird but I've never thought of Texas as being South - South. Granted my geography is beyond shaky (I am positive that cartographers spend their spare time switching countries and states around just to torment me along with changing north/south/east/west/left/right with some sort of bizarre glee). South to me would be hmm... Georgia. The Carolinas. Mississippi but not Lousiana lol. Arkansas yup. And Alabama. The rest are just states.    I am kinda fun to travel with unless I'm navigating!!

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Let's see.....a state whose governor did NOT want to succeede........becoming a "supply state" during the war until its neighbor was taken by the North. Hmmm. Let's see now.....take on an entire group of states, whilst cut off from any and all support, costing many Texan lives....or 'play along' until it suited us not to. Seems like a no-brainer to me.

Texas....a state that seceded from the Union and joined the Confederacy on 1 February 1861.

Sam Houston opposed secession....the rest of Texas was apparently ok with the concept.

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And to that I say nothing, as I know for a fact you've never been a cop. Nor could you be.

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ORIGINAL: Gwynvyd

that is actualy incorrect... the cross was not the symbol of the Inquistion.

Umm...you are saying the Catholic church didn't use the cross as their symbol in the Inquisition?
The Spanish Inquisition was used for both political and religious reasons. Spain is a nation-state that was born out of religious struggle between numerous different belief systems including Catholicism, Islam, Protestantism and Judaism. Following the Crusades and the Reconquest of Spain by the Christian Spaniards the leaders of Spain needed a way to unify the country into a strong nation. Ferdinand and Isabella chose Catholicism to unite Spain and in 1478 asked permission of the pope to begin the Spanish Inquisition to purify the people of Spain. They began by driving out Jews, Protestants and other non-believers.
In 1483 Tomas de Torquemada became the inquisitor-general for most of Spain. He was responsible for establishing the rules of inquisitorial procedure and creating branches of the Inquisition in various cities. He remained the leader of the Spanish Inquisition for fifteen years and is believed to be responsible for the execution of around 2,000 Spaniards.
The Inquisition was run procedurally by the inquisitor-general who established local tribunals of the Inquisition. Accused heretics were identified by the general population and brought before the tribunal. The were given a chance to confess their heresy against the Catholic Church and were also encouraged to indict other heretics. If they admitted their wrongs and turned in other aggressors against the church they were either released or sentenced to a prison penalty. If they would not admit their heresy or indict others the accused were publicly introduced in a large ceremony before they were publicly killed or sentenced to a life in prison. Around the 1540s the Spanish Inquisition turned its fire on the Protestants in Spain in an attempt to further unify the nation. The Spanish Inquisition's reign of terror was finally suppressed in 1834.
http://www.thenagain.info/webchron/WestEurope/SpanInqui.html

The cross as a Christian symbol or "seal" came into use at least as early as the second century (see "Apost. Const." iii. 17; Epistle of Barnabas, xi.-xii.; Justin, "Apologia," i. 55-60; "Dial. cum Tryph." 85-97); and the marking of a cross upon the forehead and the chest was regarded as a talisman against the powers of demons (Tertullian, "De Corona," iii.; Cyprian, "Testimonies," xi. 21–22; Lactantius, "Divinæ Institutiones," iv. 27, and elsewhere). Accordingly the Christian Fathers had to defend themselves, as early as the second century, against the charge of being worshipers of the cross, as may be learned from Tertullian, "Apologia," xii., xvii., and Minucius Felix, "Octavius," xxix. Christians used to swear by the power of the cross (see Apocalypse of Mary, viii., in James, "Texts and Studies," iii. 118).

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as for the Crusades.. well that was this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Crusaders.gif not a simple cross alone. Nothing to be feared unless you were a Muslim.

Well, if it is on Wikipedia, it MUST be true!  Once again, since Christianity was driving the Crusades ANY cross probably brought fear to the middle eastern people.  And once again, your last comment is telling "Nothing to be feared unless you were a Muslim. "   Spoken like a true Christian. 
 
I guess Muslims don't count?  It doesn't matter if they were raped, maimed and killed by Christians because "God was on their side"?  Nice thinking.

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Crosses for the most part in the worlds view mean hope, and Christ.
Crosses are not seen to be an evil or negative symbol...
Gwyn

Only to Christians is this a positive symbol. 
 
To me, a Christian cross indicates closed minded thinking by people who can't think for themselves and need to be told what to think.



 

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ORIGINAL: slaveboyforyou
You don't have to work outside during the summers by the way unless you dropped out of high school.

How very presumptive of you. I know more than a few people who work in outdoor jobs who did, in fact, graduate high school. My best friend is one. You can't be a dropout and be the foreman/supervisor on a HVAC crew making $20 an hour.

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ORIGINAL: slaveboyforyou
You should read the entire post before you make comments.  Of course people get poked at because of their accents.  But, not a lot of folks are retiring in New York.  It's not something they have to hear from people that live there. 

I read the part of posts that makes some degree of a point, wrong though it may be. As for your (nonexistent) stats on where people retire....who cares? Older people have thinner blood.....ummmm duh? Raise your hand if you didn't know that. Anyone?

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ORIGINAL: slaveboyforyou
Actually I don't know that, because it's not a fact.  "Yankee" has a number of different meanings and no one is precisely sure of it's origin.  It's been used by Southernors in reference to Northerners well after the American Civil War.  If you'd read a little more, you'd know that.  I told you before to stop getting your philosophy and history from action movies, Smith. 

A Yankee is someone of United States origin or heritage.

• A soldier identified as a Patriot during the American Revolutionary War
  
• A Union soldier during the American Civil War
  
• Swamp Yankee, a rural resident of Rhode Island or Connecticut with colonial ancestry

Sorry, I don't recall reading that in an action movie. Nice try at a superfluous distraction, though.

It's also funny that you counter my point.....by totally agreeing with it. That's an unusual tactic.

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You do know that "Yankees" were a side during the Civil War....that ended (with a southern LOSS) centuries ago, right?

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ORIGINAL: you
It's been used by Southernors in reference to Northerners well after the American Civil War.

Way to state what I said using different words.