chickpea
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ORIGINAL: LaTigresse
I treasure each and every one of my failures. Without them, I would not be who I am today. They also make every success so much sweeter.
Yeah, I agree. Whatever doesn't kill you, will make you stronger. Stronger to go for greater things in the future than what you lost before or how you were living before. But of course it always sucks to go through those periods of time. Just gotta wade it out, like a storm.
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ORIGINAL: LaTigresse
Being at the end of your line financially, and having to claw your way back up, can really build character.
Losing everything but yourself, tells the truth about the people you believe to be your friends. How people treat you in the depths of your failures and the heights of your successes, says alot about their character.
Yeah, it's like fasting. You get rid of all the toxins in your life, and live cleaner. Say bye bye, and hello to life without that extra baggage hehe I think it's like losing weight as well... hehe You feel somehow lighter and happier after the fog lifts without your fake friends.
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ORIGINAL: LaTigresse
Some people you've met during your lows, get jealous and nasty when you gain success. Then secretly happy when they see you fail again. Some people you've met during the highs, disappear like a mist when you fall on your face.
I'd rather stick with people I've met during the highs, they hold you to a higher standard... as I like going for stuff in life, when the time is right, it gives me that "high" after you've accomplished something great or good or whatever. Plus, I'm somewhat of an idealist, and see a lot of crap in the world, that people would just as want people to pass off as "oh that's just the way the world is... you know corruption, politicians being more focused on lobbyists rather than the people who elected them, [why I support Obama], etc.
Then the next challenge gets better and better, and you get to all these new cool places you would never have before (then have a decent life at it's base to keep you grounded). But the ones that like you as a success have to be just as (if not more) successful, or else they're just the leechers that use you for money or their image (like hey, look who's my buddy!).
I like hanging around successful people. They have a nice positive happy energy, their minds aren't constantly focused on pathetic stuff (like waaa the world is too tough, waa she's a bitch and waaa I JUST KNOW she's looking down on me [LOL like I can fucking care less about you and all the weird voices in your head!], or waaa i'm secretly jealous of you but will try to trash you just because i'm insecure about my place in life). But "unsuccessful" people (by society's standards) who are secure in themselves, like the stay at home mom who is fulfilled in living a good life, I like too :D... I mean totally, those people are super cool and are more rare though (jealous whiners are a dime-a-dozen).
If you stick around people who like you as a failure, that just becomes baggage...they are just there for you to be pathetic and to support their fragile ego (since they're not so great, and get threatened by every little success you have). Those are the ones that will try every manipulative trick to sabotage any new happinesses that you gain, just to quell and lessen the jealousy that they hide in their hearts about your lot in life. I liken them to that dry scaley calloused skin you get on the heels, it becomes irritating and sooner or later you just want to "loofa them away". :-D
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ORIGINAL: LaTigresse
Some of the most horrid, boring, nasty people I've met in my life have had wealth. Some of the most wonderful, kind have been very very poor. And visa versa. Material wealth is soooooooo, not an indicator of character or value as a human being.
Yeah, sadly I agree. There's always a risk of replacing the money and materialism, over the more long-term fulfilling things like family and relationships. It's like eating candy vs. vegetables. Candy is very appealing and gives you the high, but that doesn't last long when you get used to it. Vegetables aren't that appealing on the surface, but gets you far in the long-run. Those exposed to a lot of candy, will probably have a greater temptation of becoming dependent on candy than if they only had vegetables and hardly any candy...unless their mommy and daddy taught them that candy doesn't lead to anything good in the long run. LOL
I mean, I have humble roots and can enjoy the spoils of materialism like a fine caviar etc.. But then I also had a happy family life growing up which had nothing hardly anything to do with materialism...just the basic comforts is all I needed and lots of love. :) So I understand those that are completely happy (not a facade) and not rich. But caviar is a nice thing to enjoy (like a movie), it's not everything in life, nor does it make you better than other people that don't have it (but it probably makes you more comfortable than other people of course! You have more security for the future. I mean duh... that is for the people that can actually appreciate what you have). Sometimes people confuse wealth with the ends, and not the means...
I've met some people who grew up rich and they can't seem to appreciate what they have as much as those that didn't have it all their lives. Some have lots of comforts and wealth, but seem so empty or they seem like they're constantly unfulfilled in some way.. So they completely ignore all their blessings, and go after other ways to fill that void that are destructive (and possibly putting all their blessings that their parents worked so hard for [maybe] to jeopardy or risk) to fill that emptiness like drugs (baaaad), acting like an asshole, hanging out with losers with bad attitudes, etc.. Those people can sometimes start thinking "wow I must be better than other people because they care so much about things that I couldn't care less about...I wonder why, maybe they are just some sort of lower beings. I dunno" sort of thing, lol.
I think people in a bad situation have more (forced) opportunities to do better...that's where you see people fork either become bitter and give up OR reach down deep in themselves and become more focused and stronger. While the rich aren't forced into survival situations and don't need to make themselves better human beings in order to get the material things others crave (they already have it)...other than growing up with a set of values. Often you need maturity and strong values to get and handle wealth and success, so those people have kids born with wealth who are taught good values from the day one, and those don't learn it from life experience...and don't understand there's often a learning process involved for the less fortunate. I think if you have good people around you that support good values, that will totally help since the type of life you live...determines what comes to you. "Live a good life, and the dreams come to you." Everyone who's rich didn't always earn it themselves or the ethical way, so it's not a 100% accurate way to measure a human being.
But they say that money magnifies the person you really are... so interesting to see the people who win the lottery who were poor before: if you were a bitch, you'll be an even bigger bitch with money, or if you don't pay your taxes on time, you will totally not pay your now million dollar taxes on time (ehrmm Wesley Snipes).
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ORIGINAL: LaTigresse
I need some money to live this life. I am better off, in all ways, than I would have imagined 20 or 30, years ago. I am worse off, financially, than I was 24 years ago.....but so much happier.
Money is no guarantee to happiness or of being a good human being. It is just a tool to get through life. Anything extra, is just that an extra, fluff, icing on the cake. I can live without it but enjoy it when I have it. The happiest memories of my life required zero money or material thing. Just people that are important to me.
Plus those people who win the lottery, often loose it all after a few years. Temptations abound in a capitalistic society, and people are always after those with money. Constantly trying to suck it out of you... LOL Money does not equal happiness LOL
< Message edited by chickpea -- 6/27/2008 1:30:24 PM >
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Congrats to both In the end it was win-win. Now let's get to work http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/nov/05/john-mccain-concedes-election http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/11/17/transition.wrap/index.html
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