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sweetpettjenny -> RE: Are slaves allowed opinions (11/11/2005 4:42:19 AM)

i do not care what others think of me and my servitude as long as when i am collared i am pleasing the one who owns my heart.



Padriag -> RE: Are slaves allowed opinions (11/11/2005 5:06:34 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Belladonna82

lol Hello Sir,

Well i just wanted others opinions......i know where i stand but good gosh why are there so many wanna be all-knowing jerks out there?

bella

Cause anybody can be a know it all wannabe... no qualifications required.
Takes a bit more to be educated and have an informed view of things... not so many qualified for that.
Everybody wants to be somebody... even when they are nobody, especially then... but not everybody wants to put the effort required into really being somebody.
So you get what we have here.... a failure to communicate (oh wait... wrong movie [;)] )

Are submissives allowed opinions... take a look at this thread, you have them whether you're allowed or not... everyone does. Just try to make it an educated one people will want to listen to and I think you'll do alright. [:)]



sting516 -> RE: Are slaves allowed opinions (11/11/2005 5:35:20 AM)

Belladonna,

Why do you care what others think...what's important is that you feel that you're his slave and owned by him...if that is the case, screw what everyone else thinks and just enjoy His ownership of you.

sting
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ORIGINAL: Belladonna82

See this is how i feel...but i've had a few people who love screaming that i'm not a slave and Master isnt a Master and i do it for show since while yes Master does allow my opinions to be spread they are mine and Master understands i am a very vocal person....i mean this is my rant for today......People do not seem to understand Master and i since Master is very open with things with me....and since i am not uneducated..lol i have a minor in English(which if you ever got to meet me in public i normaly speak alot diffrent then on here....alot more proper but on here i'm normaly in a hurry and never proof read lol) and i am also a lpn(or LVN in some states) and am working to get my RN as well as a Masters in psychology.Master feels although i serve i can be treated as a educated person when it concerns His affairs normaly.......But hey this is just my day to rant lol

bella




LuckyAlbatross -> RE: Are slaves allowed opinions (11/11/2005 5:38:45 AM)

Don't ask me, I can't even define who I am.

Remember my favorite joke- you're not real until at least 5 people tell you that you don't have a clue.



MstrssPassion -> RE: Are slaves allowed opinions (11/11/2005 5:39:18 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Belladonna82

Well i just wanted others opinions......i know where i stand but good gosh why are there so many wanna be all-knowing jerks out there?

bella


Because people give them this kind of power/ego boost to be these all-knowing holders of truth & knowledge. So many people are running around with an attempt to find out or preach one true ways,how do you live/do this & my ways can be traced back to the origins of all of this.

**(complete speculation here) So many people jump into this now because they see kinky pics online & begin to dabble. Somewhere in the dabbling, these people may actually awaken this part of their being but by that time they have created such an over-inflated online persona they would never admit that they themselves are still figuring things out. I feel that because people jump in with search engines & learning from other people's experiences & theories they completely forget about their own instincts, desires & feelings.**

There was a time not so long ago when these internet sites didn't exist, Amazon didn't have a library filled with kink related material & it was far more difficult to find others that felt these same yearnings we ourselves feel.

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SadistDave: I'm guessing that this is a result of people who can't separate fantasy from reality.


Nor do they have the consideration to respect that we are not all the same & that there is no one true way to have a D/s relationship.

The Dominants, Masters, Daddies, Tops, etc have the right to design & carry out any type of rules or behaviors that they would like to have there sub/slave surrender to... every sub, slave, bottom, etc has the right to surrender to these diverse ways dominants design. What they do not have the right to do is pass judgment on others & say you doing it all wrong because I/we don't do it that way.

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Padriag: Are submissives allowed opinions... take a look at this thread, you have them whether you're allowed or not... everyone does. Just try to make it an educated one people will want to listen to and I think you'll do alright. [:)]


Smart words. If you are going to offer opinions, be informed & be careful about the manner in which you offer these opinions & to whom you share your opinions with. Some people will strongly defend their own & will attempt to crush yours by any means they can.





Manawyddan -> RE: Are slaves allowed opinions (11/11/2005 7:20:15 AM)

If I wanted a slave without any opinions I would collar a blowup doll.



Belladonna82 -> RE: Are slaves allowed opinions (11/11/2005 7:43:32 AM)

Thanks for all the "opinions" lol I just got a email from someone who vists the club that Master manages and said i need to shut up,since i was a "slave" i wasnt allowed any opinions or was me being a slave just used to get attention.It hurt because i've always tried to be nice to everyone and never even got to meet this said peson.I'm a very very emotional person...not only do i try my hardest to please Master but now the members of the club since i see 90% of them like new family.lol Its like going to a family reunion and you only know 1/2 the people there.Maybe its just my nature to always be pleasing to all...just extreamly when it comes to the Master i serve...Well hell...they can all whip my bootie lol wait i ment kiss my bootie :P



LuckyAlbatross -> RE: Are slaves allowed opinions (11/11/2005 7:46:53 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Belladonna82

Thanks for all the "opinions" lol I just got a email from someone who vists the club that Master manages and said i need to shut up,since i was a "slave" i wasnt allowed any opinions or was me being a slave just used to get attention.It hurt because i've always tried to be nice to everyone and never even got to meet this said peson.I'm a very very emotional person...not only do i try my hardest to please Master but now the members of the club since i see 90% of them like new family.lol Its like going to a family reunion and you only know 1/2 the people there.Maybe its just my nature to always be pleasing to all...just extreamly when it comes to the Master i serve...Well hell...they can all whip my bootie lol wait i ment kiss my bootie :P


Isn't that just another version of "You're not my dom"?

Hmmm...

And at least you can both have more exposure now to the fact that rudeness clearly exists, even in your club.





Belladonna82 -> RE: Are slaves allowed opinions (11/11/2005 7:48:26 AM)

Acctualy its a bit diffrent...and why the heck are you jumping on me? These i am talking to are not BDSMers/Gorean or anything else on that line...they are mere swingers



Belladonna82 -> RE: Are slaves allowed opinions (11/11/2005 7:51:57 AM)

Oh...and that this isnt the fact of women screaming "your not my dom" because you are asked to get the guy a drink...we have barternders for that. You seem to be missing the point of the thread...It was that people outside of the lifestyle(BDSM/GOREAN/OLD GUARD,ETC) are now trying to tell people in the lifestyle the way they live is wrong..even if they do not partisipate(i know its spelled wrong by the way). Master and i know there are alot of RUDE people......Its how people should react to each other within a set lifestyle....If your submissive your submissive so dern it LA get a grip and stop trying to start a arguement!



chgodomcouple -> RE: Are slaves allowed opinions (11/11/2005 8:17:29 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Manawyddan

If I wanted a slave without any opinions I would collar a blowup doll.


HAHAHAHAH that is funny

A.S.



SirSix72 -> RE: Are slaves allowed opinions (11/11/2005 8:49:47 AM)

Greetings,

I think that bella has made some pretty great points and self discovery. I think that she has a great attitude in the fact ive never met someone like her that is so willing to please everyone and wants everyone to like her I think this is the point she is tryng to convey


Master Six



sweetpettjenny -> RE: Are slaves allowed opinions (11/11/2005 9:14:59 AM)

its great make self discovery..but in actuality thats exactly what it is "self" meaning whats good for her and you might not be what others want or need.



Belladonna82 -> RE: Are slaves allowed opinions (11/11/2005 9:49:26 AM)

i'm a very opinonated slave which Master encourages.Why make a slave be siliet all the time......Many free women end up turning towards slavery because of its structure and in my personal opinion women were ment to serve. But that just my own opinion.I was raised with old values....Why must vanillas be so cruel to those in this lifestyle.....



LuckyAlbatross -> RE: Are slaves allowed opinions (11/11/2005 11:37:36 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Belladonna82
Why must vanillas be so cruel to those in this lifestyle.....

I dunno, why must everyone be so overgeneralizing and take things too hard?

Lots of vanillas are far more understanding than lots of kinksters. If you don't think kinksters can be and are cruel to eachother then you haven't seen much.

Ever stop and think that your need to serve and make everyone like you is actually a fairly arrogant and self-centered perspective on the world?



BeingChewsie -> RE: Are slaves allowed opinions (11/11/2005 11:52:15 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Belladonna82

i'm a very opinonated slave which Master encourages.Why make a slave be siliet all the time......Many free women end up turning towards slavery because of its structure and in my personal opinion women were ment to serve. But that just my own opinion.I was raised with old values....Why must vanillas be so cruel to those in this lifestyle.....



This thread is a fine example of the pot calling the kettle black.



Belladonna82 -> RE: Are slaves allowed opinions (11/11/2005 12:31:43 PM)

Well I asked for opinions not sarcasm,but its ok...Blessed be all



fyreredsub -> RE: Are slaves allowed opinions (11/11/2005 3:20:49 PM)

i'm glad i'm not the only one that writes differently on the boards,lol, i have to do APA all the time and i won't do it when its relaxation time for me. i also am well educated w/ a masters in counseling and undergrad is psych.

as to the oiginal post, i am allowed my opinions and say in matters but the final decision is masters.
master likes having an educated girl(makes me easier to train,lol).

to heck w/ what others think and feel their approval isn't needed...only what pleases master is whats necessary and if they are happy and we slaves are happy...thats what counts.

sometimes ranting feels good,lol[;)]


quote:

ORIGINAL: Belladonna82

See this is how i feel...but i've had a few people who love screaming that i'm not a slave and Master isnt a Master and i do it for show since while yes Master does allow my opinions to be spread they are mine and Master understands i am a very vocal person....i mean this is my rant for today......People do not seem to understand Master and i since Master is very open with things with me....and since i am not uneducated..lol i have a minor in English(which if you ever got to meet me in public i normaly speak alot diffrent then on here....alot more proper but on here i'm normaly in a hurry and never proof read lol) and i am also a lpn(or LVN in some states) and am working to get my RN as well as a Masters in psychology.Master feels although i serve i can be treated as a educated person when it concerns His affairs normaly.......But hey this is just my day to rant lol

bella




darkinshadows -> RE: Are slaves allowed opinions (11/11/2005 3:46:07 PM)

A slave or a submissive is of course going to have views. And their views will, undoubtedly, be relevant to their Dominant and how she behaves reflects on him and his teachings.
But the ultimate thing is, it really doesnt matter what anyone thinks of you as a slave. The only one to be concerned of is ones Master/dominants... etc...

Peace and Love



IronBear -> RE: Are slaves allowed opinions (11/11/2005 3:47:14 PM)

Obviously I dont "Know" Six or bella, I have never met them face to face. Like the rest of the posters here, I do make judgement calls based on posts and the person as we see them here on the boards. hell I don't always agree with either of them, or anyone else for that matter. But I've made some incredable cyber friends, which I believe could, if the circumstances allowed, blossom into full blown friendships. perhaps onwe of the things I like about Six, is that he is consistant in his Gorean attitude, I like the man and have and do call him friend. As for bella, she exhibits most of the traits I would love to have in a girl in my collar. Am I warped? HELL YES!!!! I never want to be any other way [:D] Love them or hate them, they do add to the vibrancy and spirit of CM and if for no other reason I'm glad they are here.



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