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Belladonna82 -> RE: Are slaves allowed opinions (11/17/2005 7:55:06 PM)

Some Masters' like opionated slaves...Master has 2 and is very happy that we are open with our thoughts.If you lock yourself away...you'll never learn to fly!




LuckyAlbatross -> RE: Are slaves allowed opinions (11/17/2005 8:38:18 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Belladonna82

Some Masters' like opionated slaves...Master has 2 and is very happy that we are open with our thoughts.If you lock yourself away...you'll never learn to fly!

Yes, being OPINIONATED can be a very good thing when balanced with temperance, understanding, openness, good judgement and education.

Otherwise you just have people flying off at the mouth and covering it all up by saying "Well it's just my opinion" and acting like that somehow makes it all ok.




jamesthehumanrug -> RE: Are slaves allowed opinions (11/20/2005 12:28:37 PM)

greetings belladona
pupils
(,aka,deadly nite shade)
ya ,unless you made it all the way ,to the bedroom, and ,beyond,then what opinion?
frued says ,to be the" best ",in bed; you're a mere sex-object, now ; a door-knob,(toldya ,freud, can make you sick....,but ,he was a genius ,on coke ;read the book: THE PAPERS).
I GUESS: AN A-HOLE ,ON COKE IS MORE ,OF AN A-HOLE ,SO WE ALL LUCKED ,OUT ,WITH ,FREUD ,THERE....




amayos -> RE: Are slaves allowed opinions (12/5/2005 5:09:56 PM)


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ORIGINAL: BeingChewsie

I'm allowed my own opinion on things. I'm just not allowed to freely spit out my opinion when I feel like it. He knows having an opinion is normal so when he wants my opinion he asks. I don't offer it otherwise. It is understood he doesn't want it or he would have asked.


Ah, how refreshing.




mnottertail -> RE: Are slaves allowed opinions (12/5/2005 6:51:55 PM)

Dearest Belladonna,

You asked originally, if slaves are allowed opinions......

I answered in the affirmative......

But Jesus H. Christ girl, I now think I should have said it is forbidden. Seven pages, what you all gotta have 7 pages of opinion about? Whether or not you should have one?

LMAO.........

Glaedige Jule, to You and Yours.

Ron




Webmaster60 -> RE: Are slaves allowed opinions (12/5/2005 9:31:21 PM)

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Yet they say a slave is only a little person on her hands and knees all the time....i belive this to be wrong...anyones elses thought would be greatly welcomed.


I'll just copy mine from the other thread.. I'll never move on this one

In public, among the free, a slave HAS no opinion.. Now thats not to say she can't think what she wants.. But she damned well better mind her "thoughts" well in the presence of others, particularly the free. So when I say the has no opinion, I mean she's not smart to express it openly.

As in discussions among men.. my slave can think what she wants, and on occaision, even ask me about a discussion privately afterward.. But she needent open her mouth about that discussion while its going on.

There are many issues where slaves have no opinion.. its often time very hard to train her HOW to express her "opinions" is a respectful manner. for ME.. a girl mak "ask" anything.. But she always need be mindfull about HOW she asks..

To emphasize my point.. there are many slaves here.. who HAVE opinions.. but damned sure know better than to express them here.. They know full well what end of a whip they will end up on, should they say something "out of place".




Webmaster60 -> RE: Are slaves allowed opinions (12/5/2005 9:34:48 PM)

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I'm allowed my own opinion on things. I'm just not allowed to freely spit out my opinion when I feel like it. He knows having an opinion is normal so when he wants my opinion he asks. I don't offer it otherwise. It is understood he doesn't want it or he would have asked.


WELL done!

Bella... I'm curious.. do you "give" your opinion, or do you wait till such a time as your opinion is asked for?





fyreredsub -> RE: Are slaves allowed opinions (12/6/2005 6:36:23 AM)

Master will have to cuff us together and ohhhhhhhhhhhh SMACKS[8D]




nelbot -> RE: Are slaves allowed opinions (12/6/2005 9:34:13 AM)

I'm sure all slaves HAVE opinions, you can't shut your mind off completely, it still whirls around in there let's be real here you don't stop THINKING right?- slaves might not be allowed to VOICE opinions or share their thoughts but that doesn't mean they don't have them...




HouseofBear -> RE: Are slaves allowed opinions (12/6/2005 4:36:50 PM)

Personally, we desire to hear the opinions of our slaves, as long as they are offered in a respectful manner. To us, how can you possess someone without wanting to know everything about them, including their thoughts, opinions and feelings? It helps you to learn more about them, what motivates them, what their turn offs are, how to avoid emotional, spiritual, and mental damage, how best to help them grow, etc.




MasterFerdinand -> RE: Are slaves allowed opinions (12/6/2005 5:51:01 PM)

SadistDave, I couldn't have said it better! HERE, HERE!!
Clear, precise, succinct, and to a very good point!




fyreredsub -> RE: Are slaves allowed opinions (12/6/2005 5:51:34 PM)

these things are crucial to the growth of the M/s dynamic.thank you for pointing that out.

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ORIGINAL: HouseofBear

Personally, we desire to hear the opinions of our slaves, as long as they are offered in a respectful manner. To us, how can you possess someone without wanting to know everything about them, including their thoughts, opinions and feelings? It helps you to learn more about them, what motivates them, what their turn offs are, how to avoid emotional, spiritual, and mental damage, how best to help them grow, etc.





Daddy4Princess4 -> RE: Are slaves allowed opinions (12/8/2005 1:32:45 PM)

A person is not much value without their opinions. Someone may have agreed to submit their opinions, and other things, to another, but if she (or he) no longer has opinions, she has become superfluous.




SirDarkside357 -> RE: Are slaves allowed opinions (1/5/2006 8:16:33 PM)

If my slave didn't have opinions, wasn't intelligent enough to voice them properly, or didn't use the mind she has...well....she wouldn't be My slave....even those that most think are harder on slaves in this since, the Goreans, can quote verses where even in the books, slaves have minds, and use them often, even to the point of having opinions.....of course they seldom share them with many WEG




valeca -> RE: Are slaves allowed opinions (1/11/2006 1:17:03 PM)

The first thing I thought to ask, after reading the first post, was, "Was it a slave who said you shouldn't have opinions?"

If a slave has said that, I'd hope they could see the irony in it. Giving their opinion about not having opinions.

My answer, though, would have to be: If a Dominant wishes an intelligent slave (which most appear to desire), H/She'd logically have to allow for opinions to be expressed. That is, of course, unless H/She's discovered a way to completely explore an individual without verbal communication. Even if They only allowed opinions in the beginning, claiming They'd learned all They'd need to know about a submissiveat that point, it wouldn't leave room for growth in either individual; the relationship would stagnate, suffocate and die.

That's my opinion, and I'm sticking to it. [;)]




dincubus -> RE: Are slaves allowed opinions (1/12/2006 4:04:23 AM)

personally i prefer my submissive to have an opinion. there is something that truly bugs me, and that thing is a woman who cannot stand up for herself and express herself to the man she is with. there is something about a woman who is not able to show her true self to the man she is with. i have several people i knwo that have eben so beaten down by the men that they are with to the point that they cannot even look anyone else in the eye when their men are with them. this bugs me and shows me that there are men out there who cannot take the fact that their women have opinions




Arpig -> RE: Are slaves allowed opinions (1/12/2006 8:44:48 PM)

Well Bella, personally i would be very disappointed if any sub or slave of mine didn't have opinions, they have brains, and I expect them to use them.




veronicaofML -> RE: Are slaves allowed opinions (1/12/2006 9:17:10 PM)


To emphasize my point.. there are many slaves here.. who HAVE opinions.. but damned sure know better than to express them here.. They know full well what end of a whip they will end up on, should they say something "out of place".
============

happy to know ...ya aint talkin about me...
i'd have-to go nutso and use an aluminum basball bat while someone was sleeping...





sweetpettjenny -> RE: Are slaves allowed opinions (1/13/2006 4:38:19 AM)

As i stated before, i am a mere reflection of who owns me , and try my hardest not to open my mouth and make him look aweful because of my stupidity at the moment. Its called think before you speak. Master likes the fact i am who i am . i am a slave who has opinions and he likes that. When i feel i am upset We talk, and talk some more. How i see it, if i have a problem with someone he can more than handle it if it is BDSM related. there is no need for myself to get involved if he is my owner he will handle the problem. He has a defined role as well as his property in the relationship. This is what makes it work well, i know my place , as His slave, and know He will take care of what He values. So back to getting into it with others on the board, i am owned and if someone wants to attack me , they attack my Master, and he will handle it himself without me being involved.
Bella and Six , respectfully i remember receiving a email out of the blue from six where he stated i wasn't a slave because i have limits, well.... all i can say is i walk . talk , and reflect my owner in a respectful way in which He Expects of me , He owns me and decides what and who i am , not others. Worry more about your relationship , than how others perceive you , because You and He are in it not them.
respectfully written,
hispettjenny




MrDiscipline44 -> RE: Are slaves allowed opinions (1/13/2006 6:56:50 AM)

What kind of stupidity is this? Lets keep moronic babblings to a dull roar. What an idiot thing to post.




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