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RE: Master's Code of Ethics - 11/14/2009 2:02:56 AM

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RE: Master's Code of Ethics - 11/14/2009 8:42:31 AM

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Greetings all...

Just a quick comment on something I saw. It is impossible to have an unethical ethics system. Even if the ethics require you to violate them, that is still following them. <grins> It is the same way that no part of a constitution can be unconstitutional.

Be well....

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I disagree, if you define ethical behavior as a balance of costs and benefits - as these are empirically analyzable, it's possible to make objective value assignments as to whether a given behavior or particular aspects of a given moral/ethical system are in fact more, or less ethical.

Morality can be unethical and ethics can be "immoral", but that because morality is more often a mixture of ethics and arbitrary tribal identification strictures, thus, relativistic by definition, since moral systems tend to be culture specific and subjective - ethics are objective and universal.

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RE: Master's Code of Ethics - 11/14/2009 8:52:55 AM

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In that case, I guess I've been very lucky. I've been very fortunate to know lifestyle folks who have had the highest moral character.

One thing I do have to say here though. A person can not be stolen. If someone is taken away so easily, they really weren't yours to begin with.

First of all I said tried, not succeeded. so your statement is hardly relative. Try reading more closely next time. Second of all, this is a great example of the lack of ethics from people who claim to have them. Rather than acknowledge something was wrong, in this particular example that you responded to going behind others back in an attempt to undermine a relationship, you prefer to simply justify it, and on a misconception no less. Thank you for the prime example of a lack of morals. And the same for you aramis; you claim to have ethics then you support a statment like this.

I read closely enough. It is obvious to Me that My experience is vastly different than your own. This could be because I tend to associate with people of higher moral character, and have never made any bones about that on this site or anywhere else.

Now, if YOU are associating with the type of people who are attempting to undermine your dynamic for their own purposes, then I would suggest that you take a better look at the company you keep.

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RE: Master's Code of Ethics - 11/14/2009 10:20:25 AM

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ORIGINAL: xssve

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ORIGINAL: Malkinius

{fast reply}

Greetings all...

Just a quick comment on something I saw. It is impossible to have an unethical ethics system. Even if the ethics require you to violate them, that is still following them. <grins> It is the same way that no part of a constitution can be unconstitutional.

Be well....

Malkinius

I disagree, if you define ethical behavior as a balance of costs and benefits - as these are empirically analyzable, it's possible to make objective value assignments as to whether a given behavior or particular aspects of a given moral/ethical system are in fact more, or less ethical.

Morality can be unethical and ethics can be "immoral", but that because morality is more often a mixture of ethics and arbitrary tribal identification strictures, thus, relativistic by definition, since moral systems tend to be culture specific and subjective - ethics are objective and universal.

Well said.

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RE: Master's Code of Ethics - 11/14/2009 10:36:45 AM

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In that case, I guess I've been very lucky. I've been very fortunate to know lifestyle folks who have had the highest moral character.

One thing I do have to say here though. A person can not be stolen. If someone is taken away so easily, they really weren't yours to begin with.

First of all I said tried, not succeeded. so your statement is hardly relative. Try reading more closely next time. Second of all, this is a great example of the lack of ethics from people who claim to have them. Rather than acknowledge something was wrong, in this particular example that you responded to going behind others back in an attempt to undermine a relationship, you prefer to simply justify it, and on a misconception no less. Thank you for the prime example of a lack of morals. And the same for you aramis; you claim to have ethics then you support a statment like this.

I read closely enough.

Well obviously you didn't since you misread his post and responded with an irrelevant comment.

Try to keep in mind not everyone here is lucky enough to be involved with a good or even any ds community. Many people are forced to choose between not being around another lifestyler at all, or associating with individuals of questionable character to try and break into the lifestyle. I myself have to drive almost two hours just to atttend a munch, something I'm not often inclinded to do. Instead of sitting there misreading posts and trying to save face from your own reading error, perhaps next time you can offer some advice as to how to find these people of 'higher moral character', or at least a spot of encouragment for a weary soul. In short, say something that's actually helpful or don't say anything at all.

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