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Play piercing equipment and how tos? - 9/12/2008 6:02:18 AM   
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A new recent fascination is with needleplay and play piercings. Silk has mentioned being interested in a corset piercing, and Fox and I have discussed needles and the photographic possibilities of  that for a while.
My question is, does anyone know of any good how to web sites on play piercing, and anywhere not too expensive to get supplies for it? I am running blind here since I am almost afraid to trust any of the sites I came across on my own when it comes to putting sharp bits into my pet. DominaSmartass gave me a link to a veterinary supply site for needles, which I still have somewhere. I am more curious about the equipment necessary for, say, the corset pierce or any other semi-permanent piercing.

Thanks for any answers. Im sorry if this is slightly rambly, its 8AM on my day off and I cant get back to sleep

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RE: Play piercing equipment and how tos? - 9/12/2008 6:37:42 PM   
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I'll second that request.

I would be interested in doing a  single or double corset piercing on a sub and lacing it up with mylar ribbon and then applying a violet wand...

BTW, DV, you have CM.


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RE: Play piercing equipment and how tos? - 9/12/2008 9:49:43 PM   
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So far what I have been told was go for medical supplies online, but not veterinary, they are not made quite the same. ASide from that I havent learned anything about piercing supplies or techniques just yet.

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RE: Play piercing equipment and how tos? - 9/14/2008 9:39:55 AM   
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http://kinkymedical.net

try this one.. ill admit ive never ordered from them personally but im friends with many who have.. they all approve and recommend the site

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RE: Play piercing equipment and how tos? - 9/14/2008 9:42:48 AM   
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http://kinkymedical.net

try this one.. ill admit ive never ordered from them personally but im friends with many who have.. they all approve and recommend the site


I've ordered from Kinky Medical before and have had nothing but positive experiences. I tend to buy my needles locally but I'm not aware of any place in Nashville. Maybe it would be best to ask some locals?

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RE: Play piercing equipment and how tos? - 9/18/2008 10:32:50 PM   
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http://www.unimaxsupply.com/

http://www.titaniumonly.com/piercing-supplies/

Both are good sights....

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RE: Play piercing equipment and how tos? - 9/18/2008 10:44:39 PM   
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Oooo....
Thank you briar!


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RE: Play piercing equipment and how tos? - 9/19/2008 6:09:47 AM   
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A new recent fascination is with needleplay and play piercings. Silk has mentioned being interested in a corset piercing, and Fox and I have discussed needles and the photographic possibilities of  that for a while.
My question is, does anyone know of any good how to web sites on play piercing, and anywhere not too expensive to get supplies for it? I am running blind here since I am almost afraid to trust any of the sites I came across on my own when it comes to putting sharp bits into my pet. DominaSmartass gave me a link to a veterinary supply site for needles, which I still have somewhere. I am more curious about the equipment necessary for, say, the corset pierce or any other semi-permanent piercing.


When you say semi-permanent, I assume that means that you're planning to put jewelry in the hole, as opposed to just using hypodermic needles and leaving them in?

Most "play piercing" is done with hypodermic needles- most likely the things you found at the vet supply place. They're small-gauge (20-27ga), pre-sterilized, and have a plastic receiver on one end that keeps them from sliding the rest of the way through. You can lace against those by having the needles pointing towards the center of the body, and looping your lacing material over the plastic ends. At the end of the scene, all the needles come out.

For a piercing with jewelry, things are a little more complicated. You can do it with needles from 16-12 ga (smaller increases the chances of tearing the hole if it gets caught on something; larger is just bigger than most people want to use for play). I usually like to use 14ga.

Get a box of needles, and however many rings you want to use, all in the same size. Having extras is a good idea, just in case you drop one, lose track of the ball, or want to add to your design. Use jewelry smaller than the hole, and it will bleed. Use jewelry larger than the hole, and you'll have to force it in, which is bad. If you're using all captive bead rings (the most economical choice), make sure you can get the beads in and out without a problem- small-diameter rings can be a real pain in the ass to deal with, at least for me

Get a good antibacterial soap, and some rubbing alcohol (the pre-saturated pads are good). Also get something to clean the jewelry with. The needles will be pre-sterilized to medical standards. The jewelry is not, and was probably manufactured in a plant somewhere in China where they also make farm machinery, pesticides, and children's toys. Also have a sharps container handy, and a skin marking pen is a good thing to have. A felt-tip pen will do in a pinch. You might want a set of forceps as well. They make slotted forceps especially for this, which makes it a lot easier to remove them after the piercing is done (trying to get a set of mini Pennington forceps off of a captive bead ring once it's in is very awkward!)

Set out ALL your materials before you begin. Don't open the individual needle packages until you're ready to use that one. Have all of the rings open.

Have the piercee sit, stand, bend over, or whatever position you expect them to be in when the piercings are done. Clean the area with the rubbing alcohol (spiral motion, from the center out). Mark where you want each piercing to be- the entrance and exit for eaech hole. Then let the piercee assume a position that will be comfortable for both of you to actually do the piercing.

Wash your hands thoroughly with antibacterial soap. If you're using gloves to be sterile, make sure that you're getting them from individual, sterile packages- otherwise, wash them too.

As you do each piercing, get the needle 3/4 of the way through, then use the jewelry to push it the rest of the way. Most piercing-specific needles have a slightly enlarged socket at the dull end to receive jewelry of that size. If the needle falls out before you're ready, don't panic- put the needle into your sharps container, and work the jewelry in by hand. The piercee will feel all of the sensation at the places where the skin is broken- not actually underneath the skin.

Don't re-use needles. They are made duller at the microscopic level as they are used, and dull = ragged wounds. The needle should slice through the skin almost effortlessly, unless you're doing something thick like a nipple or a glans. Don't try to put in jewelry after doing piercings with a hypodermic needle. Proper body piercing needles cost a little more, but they're still cheap, relatively speaking.

Hope this helps... I probably forgot a bunch of stuff, I'm not much of a morning person either...

Oh, one more thing- http://www.painfulpleasures.com. I've bought a bunch of stuff from them, they're fast, reliable, have good prices, and just about everything you could possibly want for temporary or permanent piercing.

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RE: Play piercing equipment and how tos? - 9/19/2008 7:21:20 AM   
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Supplies:
http://www.unimaxsupply.com/ has good prices but I think they have a $100 minimum order.

We got hub needles for the recent Ball Dance & Hook Pull at: http://www.qualitymedicalsupplies.com/. Fast shipping and great prices (I researched for days for low price and quality products).400 18 gauge 1 1/2" Becton Dickson hub needles, sterilized and blister packed (with printed expiry date) for $41. That included shipping.

I suggest finding someone that is very experienced and getting guidance from them. Master learned first on a tomato then progressed to piercing me side by side with another top (she did a needle on my left breast, he matched on the right breast). This was after I had already been poked by a few other people so I was already experienced as a needle bottom.







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RE: Play piercing equipment and how tos? - 9/19/2008 7:34:47 AM   
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Oh...after reading some of the info above:

Alcohol IS NOT enough! Basically it cleans the surface dirt off and often just smears it around. Most experienced piercers (professional and tops) use Techni-care Surgical Scrub (or other quality brand) to prep the site, after smearing the dirt with the alcohol pads.

You will also need gloves....usually more than one pair. Remember, everytime you touch something that is not sterile you should change gloves.

Sharps container! (in a pinch use a soda can and then wrap it multiple, many, lots of times in duct tape....but don't make this a habit)


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RE: Play piercing equipment and how tos? - 9/19/2008 8:35:59 AM   
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hey Elegant,

have you ever had any luck finding the bulk needles smaller than the 18 guage. somewhere in the 16 or so. i have hunted all over and cant find them. i think Master Cecil could have such fun with those things..hehe..

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RE: Play piercing equipment and how tos? - 9/19/2008 8:53:06 AM   
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Leakylee,

Needles sizes go backwards.
18 Ga is smaller than 16 Ga
So to get a needle smaller than an 18Ga you would go to a 20Ga (or higher number)

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RE: Play piercing equipment and how tos? - 9/19/2008 2:10:10 PM   
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I ordered my very 1st kit from these folks -- who now also have scalpels, etc... a subsequent order was delayed due to multiple hurricane issues (their supplier was hit first, then we were hit), but they kept me up to date and did a good job for me.

http://www.playpiercingkits.com/

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RE: Play piercing equipment and how tos? - 9/19/2008 2:32:43 PM   
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i am an idiot. i meant the opposite. the larger guage needles are the ones that i cant find in the bulk. shouldnt type on nyquil.

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RE: Play piercing equipment and how tos? - 9/19/2008 2:36:40 PM   
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as a health care person who has had to deal with needles in home's were there were no sharp container, we recommend a launry bottle or downey bottle and with a PERMENT MARKER on the outside write MEDICAL WASTE and then when done duct tape the cap in place.

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RE: Play piercing equipment and how tos? - 9/19/2008 2:54:54 PM   
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Google: 16 gauge hypodermic needles.

I found quite a few places.


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RE: Play piercing equipment and how tos? - 9/19/2008 4:30:42 PM   
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Any good piercing supply store can provide needles up to 4 gauge. I like these folks:

http://www.painfulpleasures.com/xcart/customer/product.php?productid=1038&cat=136&page=1

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RE: Play piercing equipment and how tos? - 9/20/2008 6:48:22 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: CallaFirestormBW

I ordered my very 1st kit from these folks -- who now also have scalpels, etc... a subsequent order was delayed due to multiple hurricane issues (their supplier was hit first, then we were hit), but they kept me up to date and did a good job for me.

http://www.playpiercingkits.com/

Calla Firestorm



I agree - these are good kits for beginners as they keep everything organized.  Later, if you find you really do enjoy it as much as your interest level now suggests, you might want to consider buying supplies in bulk.  Along with those sites already mentioned, I also suggest ebay.  Just be careful to understand what you are buying (in terms of guage, length, sterility and expiry). 

I believe that longer needles tend to be easier to handle, at least until you've found your rythym.  As suggested in an earlier post, tomatoes are the best substitute for human flesh when practicing.  You could also try piercing yourself, although I've found that to be painful in comparison to having someone else do it to me.

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RE: Play piercing equipment and how tos? - 9/20/2008 12:27:18 PM   
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I believe that longer needles tend to be easier to handle, at least until you've found your rythym.  As suggested in an earlier post, tomatoes are the best substitute for human flesh when practicing.  You could also try piercing yourself, although I've found that to be painful in comparison to having someone else do it to me.


I agree -- self-piercing is interesting for practice, but it definitely seemed like it hurt more to pierce myself than when someone else was doing the piercing, and I found the same to hold true for both cutting and branding.

If you can get your hands on it, raw pigskin makes a nice practice sample. Something else that is interesting to work with are "piercing dummies" (sort of like the fake tattoo skin to practice tattooing on). You can get the piercing models here:

http://www.unimaxsupply.com/prc/pctols/practicenose.htm

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RE: Play piercing equipment and how tos? - 9/21/2008 2:37:51 AM   
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A must-read for anyone planning to do corset piercings is here:  http://www.bmezine.com/news/pubring/20050417.html

My favorite method for short-term (up to two weeks) corset piercings is surgical staples.  You still don't want to lace them very tightly and put a lot of pressure on the staples. 

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