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MistressWycked -> RE: my take on financial domination (9/22/2008 8:30:38 PM)

HAHAHA.. okay so I was linked to this post.. and Ill have My say.. and I dont give a damn who likes it or not.  

I used to be a conventionalist snubbing nose at Financial Domination thinking all the Domme full off craptastic BS, and just looking to scam on a submissive/slave/pet for money, only to ditch them leaving the "real" Dommes to pick up the pieces of a broken slave mind and heart.  - I thought they were internet hos, and pimptresses just looking for a free ride and nothing more...  - that was UNTIL I was introduced to it by a past online/RT slave that I had and didnt realize what was going on.  the boy and his at the time fianance where owned by Me online and rt.. collared the whole bit.. the boy played taxi service to Me, was used at first as a pleasure slave at one point, did lil odd jobs around My house, . the girl cleaned My house.. ran My errands.. did My household book keeping to a point.. laundry.. Hell I have to outside the home slaves as My own personal maid and taxi services... and it was great.. then the boy started giving Me gifts, money, paying bills.. and I enjoyed it.. I never thought at the time I was a Financial Domme.. things went this way until.. for reasons need only be known by Me and the female..I dismissed them from service telling them they were not to serve another Dominant male or Female .. and if they felt the need to come back to Me so I would know they were looked after properly.

Regardless of what anyone could say against it.. THAT IS FINANCIAL DOMINATION.   It was not forced, but the financial servitude was accepted, and it was constant for alil over a year, until I released them.. but THAT IS FD/s. - It can be a lifestyle or a kink fetish.. like grown men looking for sugarbabies.. but no one snorts a nose at that when some old cow goes out to lavish money on a young girl that doesnt ask for it but accepts it.

Now I will agree ALOT of insta-"dommes" are out there barking for money and money ONLY, not wanting to put any kind of effort into a real D/s relationship and all they do is look cute on a cam with their hands out.. and stupid guys do it.. this are mostly kinksters  and sugardaddies LOOKTHING for eyecandy and sugarbabies.. so they can top from the bottom they control the situation. - A REAL Financial Domme could give a damn less if the guys takes off or not.. because they are not into JUST for the money.. they want ALL aspect of BD/sM  but its inappropiate at time NOT to call them financial Dommes because they are only trying to be honest upfront what they want..    -  and they are not always looking a hand out at once.. but to them the Financial Domination is just a add pinch to a slaves mentality of who really runs the show.

Now people might not agree with this and frankly I dont care.  and Yes Im a Financial Domme.. I dont go begging for money cause frankly I dont need to.. Im well taken care of outside of the lifestyle .. nor do I have to take some slaves/subs/pet crap for a dollar... because its not that damn serious.. and YES I have a niteflirt account and Im not some young blind girl just with her hands out making a free ride.  - everyones kink is different frome the next persons.. so if you dont like it.. okay but dont knock it.. because you dont agree with it.

and ANY DOMME on here that says they wouldnt take money willing offered to them is a damn LIAR .. straight and simple.. because I dont know ONE FEMALE that would turn away money that was free and came without demands or expectations of sexual favors. NONE... some could sit here and say they would .. BUT thats a lie.. if some guy came up to you  and said here I want to spoil you because you are a goddess and deserve it.. NO ONE would say "oh no I dont want that" and if you did you'd be stupid and deserve to be over looked for the Goddess that wants to be spoiled freely and without  conditions.

I dont demand tribute.. I receive it from willing slaves with like minded interests.. and if someone read My profile and notices what Im into... and they want to serve.. great.. if not no loss and Im not upset.. because whats good for some isnt good for others. - So before you start judging something think about what would do if the situation was set down infront of you.. and Dommes dont say some bullcrap about what you wouldnt do just to get some sub interested in your morals.. or decent outlook.. remember its not about THEM.. is about YOU.

now if you want you can start throwing stones..




LadyLupineNYC -> RE: my take on financial domination (9/22/2008 8:34:37 PM)

You were 'linked'? Yes, by the OP, your 'friend', who is having difficulting postingon her own.  Interesting...way to make a 1st post.

Note, few have issues with 'financial' domination...it's the way it was presented that many have taken issue with.




MistressWycked -> RE: my take on financial domination (9/22/2008 8:34:53 PM)

Oh and there are some men that demand financial tribute when they have a harem of live in slaves.. they will make the women work while they stay at home.. put their money into a collective pot for the house.. - Ive actually know 3 dominant males in the past that lived this lifestyle, they had normally more than one female and they were all happy.

No the females did not go out and sell sex for money they had legit taxable jobs nothing under the table.. and they were all collared and or branded (tattoo, hotbrand .etc)
so where it is rare.. it happens.. I dont see anyone whining about how thats so damn bad.




MistressWycked -> RE: my take on financial domination (9/22/2008 8:38:33 PM)

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ORIGINAL: LadyLupineNYC

You were 'linked'? Yes, by the OP, your 'friend', who is having difficulting postingon her own.  Interesting...way to make a 1st post.

Note, few have issues with 'financial' domination...it's the way it was presented that many have taken issue with.



and yes I was 'linked' I was dealing with a 'tributing' slave.. was told about it.. and I asked for a link because I was busy.. any problem with that?   and Im not saying people dont have a right to have a problem.. but dont knock the whole entire thing because some people are just out for a fast buck. there are Financial Dommes that do actually like the whole lifestyle and thats the cherry on the full D/s relationship.




Lynnxz -> RE: my take on financial domination (9/22/2008 8:41:02 PM)

I don't have a problem with financial domination- hell, I even considered it at one point when a submissive approached me with the idea- he was a trust fund baby, and was excited by the prospect of someone controlling his money, putting some away where he couldn't get to it-savings funds and such, and then giving him an allowance.

I would have had access to all of his accounts, but I sure as hell would never think of draining them just because he was a submissive, and I felt I was 'entitled' to it.

It's not something I'd ever demand of someone I was in a relationship with.




LadyLupineNYC -> RE: my take on financial domination (9/22/2008 8:42:20 PM)

Apparently you missed the part where I pointed out my slave hands everything over.  We just call that 'practical'.  Not to mention the point where I agree there was nothing 'wrong' with it, just the way it was 'presented'.  I would love to hear the opinion on the these silent financial submissives...seriously...we could use their take on this. 




JewAndCelt -> RE: my take on financial domination (9/22/2008 8:43:02 PM)

I could care less if you or anyone else is getting money for domination. I really could.
My issue with your friends post is her blanket statements.

_her




mistressbadgirl -> RE: my take on financial domination (9/22/2008 8:57:22 PM)

shame that a few have given Us a bad name, but then again those that practice with true intent will always stand alone. The lifestyle is full of fakes and frauds who discredit financial domination. My opinion will not change.. I feel that those who seek to serve in a truly submissive nature will have no problem submitting tribute




flower2007 -> RE: my take on financial domination (9/22/2008 8:58:11 PM)

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ORIGINAL: MistressWycked
NONE... some could sit here and say they would .. BUT thats a lie.. if some guy came up to you  and said here I want to spoil you because you are a goddess and deserve it.. NO ONE would say "oh no I dont want that" and if you did you'd be stupid and deserve to be over looked for the Goddess that wants to be spoiled freely and without  conditions.

I'll say I don't want it.  I'd be creeped out by a guy who wanted to spoil me "because I deserve it".  If he doesn't know me, how can he possibly know what I deserve?  If that makes me stupid, well, you and I have different definitions of that word.

Edited for weird typo




Epiphanie -> RE: my take on financial domination (9/22/2008 9:36:35 PM)

Financial tribute? This topic, to me, is interesting. Why? A few reasons actually.

1. In my opinion, someone claiming to be Dominant doesn't -need- to demand financial tribute.
2. As a submissive, I would willingly and gladly turn every earthly possession to my Master/Mistress Mommy/Daddy without hesitation.
3. I'm not, as I'm sure others are not, here to pay another person's bills.
4. To those looking for financial tribute.. there's a message waiting for you.

Message:
Tribute Dom/mes, this is the Real World calling.
Get a damn job.
Thanks.




LuckyAlbatross -> RE: my take on financial domination (9/22/2008 9:43:08 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Epiphanie
1. In my opinion, someone claiming to be Dominant doesn't -need- to demand financial tribute.

They don't need breakfast or blowjobs either- that doesn't make it a bad or negative thing to have in your relationship.
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2. As a submissive, I would willingly and gladly turn every earthly possession to my Master/Mistress Mommy/Daddy without hesitation.

Great- so you refuse to work to gain more to give in the future?  What you have now is what's it?  No goods, no services, no financial assets to gain beyond that very moment?

That's fine for you- but most subs want to provide and continue to raise their value over time.  Financially is a completely legitimate form of this.
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3. I'm not, as I'm sure others are not, here to pay another person's bills.

So what are you here for?
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4. To those looking for financial tribute.. there's a message waiting for you.

Message:
Tribute Dom/mes, this is the Real World calling.
Get a damn job.
Thanks.

Yeah, sounds like "my kink smells like roses and your kink sucks"

Financial ownership is as legitimate as any other kink or consensual transfer we have.  You don't like it, don't do it.  But just because you limit your service to non financial areas, don't suggest I or others are bad because we add it to our relationships.




Epiphanie -> RE: my take on financial domination (9/22/2008 9:50:46 PM)

I never said you were bad, or your kink is bad or anything of the sort.

What I am referring to, and I apologize for not stating in my first post, is that there is a hundred if not more females on this site claiming to be tribute "Goddess"es and won't give anyone the time of day, unless their paypal is filled with money, and have no intention on meeting those that pay them tribute.

Again, I do apologize if you were offended. I'm quite sure you're not like the countless dozens like that I described above.

I am here to hopefully meet someone I can serve and maybe even create a life with, and if not, I'd like to say I'd meet some nice people who will be friends for a lifetime.

As for giving everything away to my future Owner: I fully believe that my Owner will look after me, and take care of my best interests.




LuckyAlbatross -> RE: my take on financial domination (9/22/2008 9:53:30 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Epiphanie
What I am referring to, and I apologize for not stating in my first post, is that there is a hundred if not more females on this site claiming to be tribute "Goddess"es and won't give anyone the time of day, unless their paypal is filled with money, and have no intention on meeting those that pay them tribute.

Again, I do apologize if you were offended. I'm quite sure you're not like the countless dozens like that I described above.

What's wrong with refusing to meet someone who won't meet their basic standards?  Would you meet anyone and everyone just because they emailed you and said you wanted to meet?

Again- not your kink, that doesn't make it a bad thing.

And how do you know what I am or am not like? 




GlitterSissyBoi -> RE: my take on financial domination (9/22/2008 10:00:30 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Epiphanie

I never said you were bad, or your kink is bad or anything of the sort.

What I am referring to, and I apologize for not stating in my first post, is that there is a hundred if not more females on this site claiming to be tribute "Goddess"es and won't give anyone the time of day, unless their paypal is filled with money, and have no intention on meeting those that pay them tribute.




There are terrible doms/dommes of every variety. it's really no different with financial slavery, other than that it takes more than just time to figure out which ones aren't worth dealing with.[;)]




Epiphanie -> RE: my take on financial domination (9/22/2008 10:10:33 PM)

Okay, point taken, LuckyAlbatross. But then, why would someone take money from a complete stranger, without knowing someone, without knowing what they want or need?

But rather than argue my -Opinion- with someone I don't know, I'll chalk it up to "To each their own."

And you're right. I apologize again for assuming that you weren't like countless others and that you had some bit of originality to you. My fault.

And thank you Glitter, I suppose I never really thought of it that way.




ModeratorEleven -> RE: my take on financial domination (9/23/2008 12:21:15 AM)

Ok folks. A huge steaming pile has been removed from this thread. If you're intent upon derailing or otherwise nullifying the thread because it's a topic you don't agree with, you're going to find yourself being shown the door.

XI




E2Sweet -> RE: my take on financial domination (9/23/2008 12:48:14 AM)

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ORIGINAL: mistressbadgirl
...Gifts/tribute is only a way for a slave to show his appreciation for even being taken on as a submissive in the first place....



I've always thought that buying someone stuff is a pretty lazy way to show them you appreciate them. It requires very little imagination, and almost zero effort. I'd like to think I'm creative enough in other areas to the point where dipping into my bank account in order to receive a dominant woman's attention simply isn't necessary. I'd also like to think any dominant woman I get all entangled with would be more interested in me and what I have to offer than what I can afford to buy her... Call me old fashioned...[;)]





BiteGirl -> RE: my take on financial domination (9/23/2008 3:04:30 AM)

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ORIGINAL: YourhandMyAss

Maybe in your opinion, but your opinion doesn't apply to what everyone else thinks submissives should be.


quote:

ORIGINAL: mistressbadgirl

.( for those that dont know what t In the true nature of submission, the submissive is required to be obidient and never question the desires of his Owner.



That goes for all sweeping statements made by everyone in this lifestyle. I wonder why she chose to share her opinion though... was it so it would be valiadated by others with the same opinion so then she could keep up the things she is doing?




missturbation -> RE: my take on financial domination (9/23/2008 3:20:12 AM)

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Gifts/tribute is only a way for a slave to show his appreciation for even being taken on as a submissive in the first place

You reckon?
In my opinion anyone can pay financial tribute or buy gifts. You reach in your purse / wallet pull out spare cash and hand it over. I however would prefer to show my appreciation for being taken on as his slave day in day out in all the ways i please him.
 
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i simply feel its a stronger form of submission that only the most submissive can give

Excuse me? Only the most submissive will pay tribute? How on earth do you work that one out?
 
I have absolutely no problem with financial domination but i do have a problem with being told that only the most submissive will pay financial tribute.
For a pro D type they are getting paid for a service as everyone who holds a job down does.
For a D type who just asks for financial tribute in my opinion, it is just another kink, nothing more, nothing less.
Each to their own but i object to being told i am less submissive because i don't pay a financial tribute.




camille65 -> RE: my take on financial domination (9/23/2008 3:26:50 AM)

I have a completely different definition of financial domination, it doesn't involve tributes in any way, shape or form.

Financial domination: giving over actual control of all monies.
It is an enormous responsibility. Comparing various IRAs, CDs, High Yield Savings Accounts etc.

Unless the dominant is skilled in money managing they will  never ever touch my finances. Luckily my owner is skilled to a degree and I am more than happy to ask (and usually act upon) his advice. However before acting I do my own research.

Financial domination is not play, it is not casual, it especially is  not for a casual or new relationship.

As to the concept of the submissive who undergoes financial domination being the UberSubmissive? I call that a load of bs.
Ones worth to ones dominant should not be based upon financial worth as the rule.




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