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Twicehappy2x -> RE: my take on financial domination (9/23/2008 3:38:59 AM)

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ORIGINAL: mistressbadgirl

 Anytime the submissive is awarded the valuble time of a Dominant he/she should treat it as the honor it is.  Gifts/tribute is only a way for a slave to show his appreciation for even being taken on as a submissive in the first place.



Gee, so i could just buy him some new chrome for the bike and stop doing the laundry, house work, yard work, car repairs, grocery shopping, cooking, etc.....?
 
Who knew?

Seriously, if financial domination is your kink, well OP, that is fine for you.
 
But to use such a blanket statement regarding ALL subs and Doms is a bit offensive.




RapierFugue -> RE: my take on financial domination (9/23/2008 3:49:51 AM)

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ORIGINAL: mistressbadgirl
where u misunderstand my take on it and the beliefs of others..i simply feel its a stronger form of submission that only the most submissive can give


I was having a chat with someone the other evening, online, and we were both bemoaning the dearth of original comedy ideas of late – the industry seems to have stagnated somewhat, creatively-speaking.
 
Boy, is he ever going to be happy when I point him at this thread.
 
“We have not laughed this much since auntie caught her left tit in the mangle”.




DustinFaust -> RE: my take on financial domination (9/23/2008 4:07:00 AM)

whatever.




DMFParadox -> RE: my take on financial domination (9/23/2008 4:10:01 AM)

Wow. Um, so most husbands (or wives) that are the primary breadwinners are automatically better submissives? What does this say about the person who takes the money? Are they the ultimate Doms?

Puhlease.

I've so totally been doing this wrong; even when the girl has more money than I do (which is surprisingly frequent lately) I pay my own way unless she insists, and even then I'll argue and bitch about it sometimes. Come to think of it, reading what I just wrote, it occurs to me that I might really be doing it wrong... ^_^




thishereboi -> RE: my take on financial domination (9/23/2008 4:14:06 AM)

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ORIGINAL: MistressWycked

HAHAHA.. okay so I was linked to this post.. and Ill have My say.. and I dont give a damn who likes it or not.  

I used to be a conventionalist snubbing nose at Financial Domination thinking all the Domme full off craptastic BS, and just looking to scam on a submissive/slave/pet for money, only to ditch them leaving the "real" Dommes to pick up the pieces of a broken slave mind and heart.  - I thought they were internet hos, and pimptresses just looking for a free ride and nothing more...  - that was UNTIL I was introduced to it by a past online/RT slave that I had and didnt realize what was going on.  the boy and his at the time fianance where owned by Me online and rt.. collared the whole bit.. the boy played taxi service to Me, was used at first as a pleasure slave at one point, did lil odd jobs around My house, . the girl cleaned My house.. ran My errands.. did My household book keeping to a point.. laundry.. Hell I have to outside the home slaves as My own personal maid and taxi services... and it was great.. then the boy started giving Me gifts, money, paying bills.. and I enjoyed it.. I never thought at the time I was a Financial Domme.. things went this way until.. for reasons need only be known by Me and the female..I dismissed them from service telling them they were not to serve another Dominant male or Female .. and if they felt the need to come back to Me so I would know they were looked after properly.

Regardless of what anyone could say against it.. THAT IS FINANCIAL DOMINATION.   It was not forced, but the financial servitude was accepted, and it was constant for alil over a year, until I released them.. but THAT IS FD/s. - It can be a lifestyle or a kink fetish.. like grown men looking for sugarbabies.. but no one snorts a nose at that when some old cow goes out to lavish money on a young girl that doesnt ask for it but accepts it.

Now I will agree ALOT of insta-"dommes" are out there barking for money and money ONLY, not wanting to put any kind of effort into a real D/s relationship and all they do is look cute on a cam with their hands out.. and stupid guys do it.. this are mostly kinksters  and sugardaddies LOOKTHING for eyecandy and sugarbabies.. so they can top from the bottom they control the situation. - A REAL Financial Domme could give a damn less if the guys takes off or not.. because they are not into JUST for the money.. they want ALL aspect of BD/sM  but its inappropiate at time NOT to call them financial Dommes because they are only trying to be honest upfront what they want..    -  and they are not always looking a hand out at once.. but to them the Financial Domination is just a add pinch to a slaves mentality of who really runs the show.

Now people might not agree with this and frankly I dont care.  and Yes Im a Financial Domme.. I dont go begging for money cause frankly I dont need to.. Im well taken care of outside of the lifestyle .. nor do I have to take some slaves/subs/pet crap for a dollar... because its not that damn serious.. and YES I have a niteflirt account and Im not some young blind girl just with her hands out making a free ride.  - everyones kink is different frome the next persons.. so if you dont like it.. okay but dont knock it.. because you dont agree with it.

and ANY DOMME on here that says they wouldnt take money willing offered to them is a damn LIAR .. straight and simple.. because I dont know ONE FEMALE that would turn away money that was free and came without demands or expectations of sexual favors. NONE... some could sit here and say they would .. BUT thats a lie.. if some guy came up to you  and said here I want to spoil you because you are a goddess and deserve it.. NO ONE would say "oh no I dont want that" and if you did you'd be stupid and deserve to be over looked for the Goddess that wants to be spoiled freely and without  conditions.

I dont demand tribute.. I receive it from willing slaves with like minded interests.. and if someone read My profile and notices what Im into... and they want to serve.. great.. if not no loss and Im not upset.. because whats good for some isnt good for others. - So before you start judging something think about what would do if the situation was set down infront of you.. and Dommes dont say some bullcrap about what you wouldnt do just to get some sub interested in your morals.. or decent outlook.. remember its not about THEM.. is about YOU.

now if you want you can start throwing stones..


I can understand that you would offer them the opportunity to come back, if they wanted that. But to tell them they can never serve anyone else? Give me a bloody break, once you release them, you no longer have a say in their lives.

To the OP- As to the financial part, if that's what your into, have fun. Just don't act like it's the only way.




sirsholly -> RE: my take on financial domination (9/23/2008 4:14:59 AM)

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ORIGINAL: mistressbadgirl
 In the true nature of submission, the submissive is required to be obidient and never question the desires of his Owner.


In my opinion this is not being submissive...it is being passive.

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 Anytime the submissive is awarded the valuble time of a Dominant he/she should treat it as the honor it is.

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Gifts/tribute is only a way for a slave to show his appreciation for even being taken on as a submissive in the first place.

This negates the worth of the submissive...don't you think? I am a sub and when i met my Dom i came to him as an EQUAL, and still do. We are on different sides of the BDSM coin, so to speak, but equals none the less.




thishereboi -> RE: my take on financial domination (9/23/2008 4:17:56 AM)

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ORIGINAL: MistressWycked


Now people might not agree with this and frankly I dont care.  and Yes Im a Financial Domme.. I dont go begging for money cause frankly I dont need to.. Im well taken care of outside of the lifestyle .. nor do I have to take some slaves/subs/pet crap for a dollar... because its not that damn serious.. and YES I have a niteflirt account and Im not some young blind girl just with her hands out making a free ride.  - everyones kink is different frome the next persons.. so if you dont like it.. okay but dont knock it.. because you dont agree with it.

and ANY DOMME on here that says they wouldnt take money willing offered to them is a damn LIAR .. straight and simple.. because I dont know ONE FEMALE that would turn away money that was free and came without demands or expectations of sexual favors. NONE... some could sit here and say they would .. BUT thats a lie.. if some guy came up to you  and said here I want to spoil you because you are a goddess and deserve it.. NO ONE would say "oh no I dont want that" and if you did you'd be stupid and deserve to be over looked for the Goddess that wants to be spoiled freely and without  conditions.

I dont demand tribute.. I receive it from willing slaves with like minded interests.. and if someone read My profile and notices what Im into... and they want to serve.. great.. if not no loss and Im not upset.. because whats good for some isnt good for others. - So before you start judging something think about what would do if the situation was set down infront of you.. and Dommes dont say some bullcrap about what you wouldnt do just to get some sub interested in your morals.. or decent outlook.. remember its not about THEM.. is about YOU.

now if you want you can start throwing stones..


A Domme helped me move sunday. I tried to give her money and ......she wouldn't take it.

That's right, tried to give the female money and she turned it down. It was free and she still turned it down. Now I want to see you call her a liar. Preferably when she has a singletail in her hand.




thishereboi -> RE: my take on financial domination (9/23/2008 4:26:58 AM)

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ORIGINAL: BiteGirl

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ORIGINAL: YourhandMyAss

Maybe in your opinion, but your opinion doesn't apply to what everyone else thinks submissives should be.


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ORIGINAL: mistressbadgirl

.( for those that dont know what t In the true nature of submission, the submissive is required to be obidient and never question the desires of his Owner.



That goes for all sweeping statements made by everyone in this lifestyle. I wonder why she chose to share her opinion though... was it so it would be valiadated by others with the same opinion so then she could keep up the things she is doing?



Maybe she is widening her client base?




tazzygirl -> RE: my take on financial domination (9/23/2008 4:33:18 AM)

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ORIGINAL: mistressbadgirl

shame that a few have given Us a bad name, but then again those that practice with true intent will always stand alone. The lifestyle is full of fakes and frauds who discredit financial domination. My opinion will not change.. I feel that those who seek to serve in a truly submissive nature will have no problem submitting tribute


so, in order to be truly submissive, i have to pay for someone to be truly Dominant to me?

wow




LuckyAlbatross -> RE: my take on financial domination (9/23/2008 6:40:01 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Epiphanie
Okay, point taken, LuckyAlbatross. But then, why would someone take money from a complete stranger, without knowing someone, without knowing what they want or need?

Why would someone want to see a naked body on a webcam without knowing what they want or need? Why do doms order subs on what to wear before they ever meet for the first time?

What's the difference between offering a service in the form of looking titillating and giving a physical gift?
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And you're right. I apologize again for assuming that you weren't like countless others and that you had some bit of originality to you. My fault.

No problem, I'd much prefer you stay open to finding out who I am. 

Most people in the world are like everybody else...and like nobody else.




Venatrix -> RE: my take on financial domination (9/23/2008 6:48:48 AM)

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ORIGINAL: mistressbadgirl

shame that a few have given Us a bad name, but then again those that practice with true intent will always stand alone. The lifestyle is full of fakes and frauds who discredit financial domination. My opinion will not change.. I feel that those who seek to serve in a truly submissive nature will have no problem submitting tribute


Yes, of course.  If one is only in it for the money, one *would* say that, wouldn't one?




CreativeDominant -> RE: my take on financial domination (9/23/2008 7:30:21 AM)

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ORIGINAL: mistressbadgirl

There is a great debate when it comes to the subject of Financial Domination. To some its veiwed simply as thievery( per a profile i read earlier)
 It is, though it is hard to describe something willingly given up as being stolen.
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 and/or prostitution(as read in many others).
 More difficult to call here...sadly, in many instances financial tribute/"gifts" buys you nothing but time from the female dominant in question.
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 In MY opinionI believe those opinions give the submisive a way to top from the bottom.
 Actually, since the submissive is paying for something, even if it is only time, from the female dominant he/she (the submissive) has already "topped" her, when you look at it from another angle.  But to address your point, which seems to be that having an opinion that contradicts your viewpoint means that the submissive is trying to top you.  Why?  Because their opinion does contradict yours and that these two opinions address moral issues for the submissive?
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( for those that dont know what t In the true nature of submission, the submissive is required to be obidient and never question the desires of his Owner.
Actually, while the definition of submission means a yielding of your will to that of another and that obedience is sometimes present, full obedience is not a given.  There are struggles to submit that always take place.  And, NOWHERE in any definition is it stated that the submissive will never question the desire of his owner.  That may be true in YOUR dynamic but it is not necessarily true in every dynamic.  Personally, I doubt that it is true in your dynamic also since submissives are human and, just like you, question their partner's motives/desires/behavior at least occasionally...if not overtly, at least to themselves.  And let's face it, many female dominants require tribute be paid by a submissive that isn't even theirs but only under consideration.
 
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Anytime the submissive is awarded the valuble time of a Dominant he/she should treat it as the honor it is.  Gifts/tribute is only a way for a slave to show his appreciation for even being taken on as a submissive in the first place.
In what alternate universe does this take place?  Quick, let me see hands:  how many female submissives with a male dominant think that a female dominant's time is more valuable than your male dominant's time?  How many female submissives are willing to pay financial tribute/gifts to a male dominant for their "valuable" time?  I would venture that not many female submissives do this...now perhaps it is because there are many more male dominants available for female submissives vs. the number of female dominants available for male submissives OR perhaps it is because the female submissives see financial gifts/tributes/domination for the fetish/con game/B.S. it is.





crouchingtigress -> RE: my take on financial domination (9/23/2008 8:17:07 AM)

For me it is incredibly simple.....money is energy, no different then any other energy,

And i get get off on playing with energy, my kink is to feed on the energetic exchange between two or more people. With each person that is going to look differnt, but one thing i know is that if it does not hurt or scare both of us, i am not interested...again this is just my kink

You would not believe how many people are have money as a tender place that hurts or scares them....and me being fairly preditory, and always pushing soft squishy places, especially tabooo places, tend to squeeze tender spots until i hear squeals.







therealboss -> RE: my take on financial domination (9/23/2008 8:22:35 AM)

t's nice when it happens[:D]




ExSteelAgain -> RE: my take on financial domination (9/23/2008 12:40:42 PM)

Tribute Doms say,
"Money doesn't grow on trees, you have to beat the bushes for it."




tazzygirl -> RE: my take on financial domination (9/23/2008 2:07:09 PM)

the line is a bit blurry between Dominant and submissive... you are commanding them to offer up money.. yet.. they are paying you for a service

heck, if thats the case, im gonna grab a pair of domme boots and a new paypal account!




LuckyAlbatross -> RE: my take on financial domination (9/23/2008 2:17:24 PM)

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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl
the line is a bit blurry between Dominant and submissive... you are commanding them to offer up money.. yet.. they are paying you for a service

heck, if thats the case, im gonna grab a pair of domme boots and a new paypal account!

There's a large difference between "financial domination" and "pay for play."

Requiring financial service from someone is no different than requiring that they be shaved, or call you sir, or cook you food, or any other sort of service you would require from someone you choose to have as a submissive. 

Pay for play is like going to a manicurist- you pay for services rendered and enjoy a nice time with it.




Lynnxz -> RE: my take on financial domination (9/23/2008 2:19:46 PM)

Here comes the pro debate. [>:]




NormalOutside -> RE: my take on financial domination (9/23/2008 2:19:55 PM)

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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

the line is a bit blurry between Dominant and submissive... you are commanding them to offer up money.. yet.. they are paying you for a service

heck, if thats the case, im gonna grab a pair of domme boots and a new paypal account!


Many, many do.




Epiphanie -> RE: my take on financial domination (9/23/2008 9:14:16 PM)

Okay.. totally off topic.. But I need to say it.. Take it however you will.. but my opinion..

LuckyAlbatross: You are one in a million, completely different of how I thought you'd be. You're gorgeous and fiery. Sassy and just plain fun to spare the moments with an intellectual debate.

I think I love you. <3 LOL




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