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RE: Does tribute equal being a hooker? - 2/5/2006 7:50:15 PM   
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I think if submissive boys who claim to want to be a slave and enter into a 24/7 TPE relationship understand that TPE means everything, then there is really no need to ask about the money in the beginning. It is already out there as an expected part of submission, so you now have the freedom to get to know the Lady. If you determine, over a period of months that She is responsible, that She has certain beliefs about finances, and you are comfortable with that, then it shouldn't be a problem. If you like everything else, and you know She is good with money, and honest, and upstanding, but you still don't want Her to have that control, then you have to admit that you are not looking for a TPE. You are looking for a different relationship with only certain D/s dynamics. You are not looking for a Total Power Exchange. Since I am, why would these boys write to Me in the first place?
When I am seeking, I have a very clear profile. I state TPE upfront. I shouldn't even be questioned, IMO, about money. Get to know Me, if you are interested. Be aware of what TPE means. It will avoid a lot of wasted time.
My time has been wasted often. TPE should not even have to be explained. I have stated this before. I will state it one more time. If you make a decision to get into a relationship with a Domina, as a slave, with TPE as the basis, your paycheck is not tribute. It is part of your submission. Other aspects of your savings, assets, etc. are worked out on an individual basis.
If it is not what you want, that is your right, but please don't come knocking at My door and then trying to convince Me that I should settle for something less. And don't come onto the message boards to complain, either.
There are three different dynamics playing out here.
1. The Ladies who want money sent to Paypal before they will even talk to a submissive boy.
2. The Ladies who offer Pro Domination Services, and are paid for specific services rendered.
3. The Ladies who are Lifestyle Dominas seeking a TPE long term or lifetime relationship with a submissive boy who will become owned property and be Her slave. TPE includes control of the money.

I am not number 1. I am part time (very part time) number 2. I am definitely number 3.

If you don't need or want the sevices of a Professional Domina, don't write to Me. If you don't want to be a slave in a TPE relationship, don't write to Me. But don't disrespect Me because I have a certain view of how I live in this lifestyle. I am not saying you are wrong to be soured or cynical about the possibility of being taken advantage of. If your experiences tell you to be careful, that is fine. That is great! But don't jump down the throats of any Domina who states that money is a part of a TPE. Or any Domina who offers Professional services. You are entitled to your opinion. You are not entitled to shove it down My throat. And you are most definitely not entitled to accuse Me of being a "hooker" or a "scam artist", or any of the other denigrating terms you boys are all so fond of throwing around.
Please note I use the universal "you" here. This post is not specifically aimed toward any one poster.


I have an honest question about your ideal TPE relationship and how it relates to money. Is your desire to have control of the finances related to:

* Getting satisfaction out of having complete control
* Getting satisfaction out of controlling money in particular
* Knowledge that you feel best equipped to manage the money and it's easier to have one person doing it
* Knowledge that you will set up a pretty good barrier to entry and only get men who really THINK about TPE before saying "Sign me up!" (you are right, the fastest way to scare them off is mention of their wallet.)

Is it a combination of these things, or one thing in particular, or something I'm totally missing?

I absolutely hate dealing with money. I hate paying bills, I hate doing Estimated Tax Returns, I hate balancing the checkbook and I hate financial planning. In fact, "hate" isn't even a strong enough word; I have such a distaste for it that I am financially irresponsble to a fault, regardless of HOW much money I am making. Therefore, I realized pretty early on my options were to have my partner handle it (if he were good with money) OR getting a financial planner/CPA that would work extremely close with my money, down to giving me an allowance.

I don't like dealing with money, it's a bother. I just like knowing I have it, and I can spend it when and how I want. In that sense, I have control of the money in this relationship. More importantly, I have total control because I *make every penny of it* when it comes right down to it. He doesn't have a job. I've always figured he doesn't have a job because he's a better domestic (and he enjoys it) and I need help with my business anyway. But as I think more about it, I didn't *like* it when he was making money.

I don't care how he spends "our" money, but the fact that I earn it ensures that he asks before he does anything. In that sense, I do have complete control of the finances. I don't worry about it much because he is meticulous with money and I'm the reckless one.

It makes me wonder if I essentially crave the same thing you do, but the fact that I don't like "physically" dealing with finances is an obstacle to acheive that. In a roundabout way I've accomplished a similar scenario. Not the same, but kind of similar.

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RE: Does tribute equal being a hooker? - 2/5/2006 7:50:42 PM   
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I am not asking to be added to a bank account. I am determining if you should even have a bank account in the first place. Is that too Dominant for you?
I have discoursed on this subject at length in various other threads over the last 2 years or so. I have built in protections and savings, retirement, etc. for a boy. Some will leave better off then when they arrived. Other resources will, most likely, remain untouched. The idea, of course, is that the boy does not leave. This is supposed to be a permanent arrangement. At least that is what I seek


i hear You and agree with Your position on this GoddessDustyGold. i also hope You do find a brief respite in that fact.

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RE: Does tribute equal being a hooker? - 2/5/2006 8:24:17 PM   
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ORIGINAL: GoddessDustyGold

If you don't need or want the sevices of a Professional Domina, don't write to Me. If you don't want to be a slave in a TPE relationship, don't write to Me. But don't disrespect Me because I have a certain view of how I live in this lifestyle. I am not saying you are wrong to be soured or cynical about the possibility of being taken advantage of. If your experiences tell you to be careful, that is fine. That is great! But don't jump down the throats of any Domina who states that money is a part of a TPE. Or any Domina who offers Professional services. You are entitled to your opinion. You are not entitled to shove it down My throat. And you are most definitely not entitled to accuse Me of being a "hooker" or a "scam artist", or any of the other denigrating terms you boys are all so fond of throwing around.
Please note I use the universal "you" here. This post is not specifically aimed toward any one poster.


I don't remember writing you at all... I remember quoting you in a public forum. I think the words that your looking for are things like "he" "him" and "his". Putting a little blurb at the bottom of your post trying to state that it's not directed at me specifically doesn't change the fact that it gives that impression and makes it look like we have some past history of private communications or relationship that are referenced in your post where you even quote me before starting your little laundry list of complaints.

Something can be a nice idea in fantasy, but we don't live in a world of fantasy and have to live with the concequences of our actions. That is why you find unwillingness and hesitation from most sane people, not because you want to claim they feel it as a threat to their masculinity or because they can't handle you because your "too dominant" and by extension of that logic they are simply just not submissive enough.

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RE: Does tribute equal being a hooker? - 2/5/2006 8:31:47 PM   
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ORIGINAL: CuriousPuppy

quote:

ORIGINAL: GoddessDustyGold

If you don't need or want the sevices of a Professional Domina, don't write to Me. If you don't want to be a slave in a TPE relationship, don't write to Me. But don't disrespect Me because I have a certain view of how I live in this lifestyle. I am not saying you are wrong to be soured or cynical about the possibility of being taken advantage of. If your experiences tell you to be careful, that is fine. That is great! But don't jump down the throats of any Domina who states that money is a part of a TPE. Or any Domina who offers Professional services. You are entitled to your opinion. You are not entitled to shove it down My throat. And you are most definitely not entitled to accuse Me of being a "hooker" or a "scam artist", or any of the other denigrating terms you boys are all so fond of throwing around.
Please note I use the universal "you" here. This post is not specifically aimed toward any one poster.


I don't remember writing you at all... I remember quoting you in a public forum. I think the words that your looking for are things like "he" "him" and "his". Putting a little blurb at the bottom of your post trying to state that it's not directed at me specifically doesn't change the fact that it gives that impression and makes it look like we have some past history of private communications or relationship that are referenced in your post where you even quote me before starting your little laundry list of complaints.

Something can be a nice idea in fantasy, but we don't live in a world of fantasy and have to live with the concequences of our actions. That is why you find unwillingness and hesitation from most sane people, not because you want to claim they feel it as a threat to their masculinity or because they can't handle you because your "too dominant" and by extension of that logic they are simply just not submissive enough.



Don't worry curiouspuppy, I think you are the only one that mistook that the words typed by Dusty made it seem as though you had a history. Disclaimers are just that, and she was VERY clear she was not speaking about you or anyone else in particular, smiles, but......... yet your next paragraph refers to fantasy........freudian slip on your part maybe????? BTW, Dusty is a good friend of mine, and have never known her to be lacking in applicants....and for the record, I think she has just the right level of dominance, and is part of what makes her the wonderful woman she is...

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RE: Does tribute equal being a hooker? - 2/5/2006 8:35:45 PM   
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Don't worry curiouspuppy, I think you are the only one that mistook that the words typed by Dusty made it seem as though you had a history. Disclaimers are just that, and she was VERY clear she was not speaking about you or anyone else in particular, smiles, but......... yet your next paragraph refers to fantasy........freudian slip on your part maybe?????


Nope, just a continuation of the conversation already going on previously about signing over paychecks and adding people to bank accounts and such.

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RE: Does tribute equal being a hooker? - 2/5/2006 8:47:52 PM   
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ORIGINAL: AAkasha

I have an honest question about your ideal TPE relationship and how it relates to money. Is your desire to have control of the finances related to:

* Getting satisfaction out of having complete control
* Getting satisfaction out of controlling money in particular
* Knowledge that you feel best equipped to manage the money and it's easier to have one person doing it
* Knowledge that you will set up a pretty good barrier to entry and only get men who really THINK about TPE before saying "Sign me up!" (you are right, the fastest way to scare them off is mention of their wallet.)

Is it a combination of these things, or one thing in particular, or something I'm totally missing?

I absolutely hate dealing with money. I hate paying bills, I hate doing Estimated Tax Returns, I hate balancing the checkbook and I hate financial planning. In fact, "hate" isn't even a strong enough word; I have such a distaste for it that I am financially irresponsble to a fault, regardless of HOW much money I am making. Therefore, I realized pretty early on my options were to have my partner handle it (if he were good with money) OR getting a financial planner/CPA that would work extremely close with my money, down to giving me an allowance.

I don't like dealing with money, it's a bother. I just like knowing I have it, and I can spend it when and how I want. In that sense, I have control of the money in this relationship. More importantly, I have total control because I *make every penny of it* when it comes right down to it. He doesn't have a job. I've always figured he doesn't have a job because he's a better domestic (and he enjoys it) and I need help with my business anyway. But as I think more about it, I didn't *like* it when he was making money.

I don't care how he spends "our" money, but the fact that I earn it ensures that he asks before he does anything. In that sense, I do have complete control of the finances. I don't worry about it much because he is meticulous with money and I'm the reckless one.

It makes me wonder if I essentially crave the same thing you do, but the fact that I don't like "physically" dealing with finances is an obstacle to acheive that. In a roundabout way I've accomplished a similar scenario. Not the same, but kind of similar.

Akasha


Very good questions!
And I am going to be brutally honest in My answer.
I also hate dealing with finances. But I do it, every month. I pay My bills. I also like knowing I have money to spend, or even just money to cover the cost of living each month. I am not careless with it, and I definitely know how to stretch a dollar. I raised 2 kids on very little, and when I hear of people who can't make it on 3 times the amount of My annual income, I have to admit, it gets My goat.
Money = power. And it is the power I want. It is also a very major thing with the boys.
I do derive the most satisfaction out of having complete control and that includes the money.
I also have the knowledge that a boy will wash out real fast if he refuses to consider the fact that I will control the money.
And yes, I do feel I am very capable of handling and determining the household budget. In fact, I think it is My duty, as the Dominant, to make those determinations. If the boy is just as capable, then I might get input from time to time regarding special purchases, or extra expenditures, but I still won't give over the money to him, just because he is good at it. I am just as good, or better. And I control it.
I do not get any satisfaction out of controlling money, per se. To Me it is just a thing. Admittedly, it is an important thing, but still only a thing.
As to Me hating to pay the bills...well, I won't. What I will do is set up the budget, and make sure the income is there to handle all necessary monthly expenses. Then the boy will handle making out checks and bringing them to Me to sign. He will balance the checkbook. He will figure out the taxes, or a CPA will be hired for the task. And he will be on a limited allowance with permission to purchase the necessary items I allow. *I ALLOW*
I don't mind planning, or setting up a budget, or figuring out if I should purchase something, or wait on the purchase. In fact, I am very good at that. I don't like writing the checks. But I don't really have to. I would have a boy to do that for Me.
As far as investments, if the boy has a good head, and experience in such things, I certainly will make use of that knowledge. If not, then, again, I would hire a professional to help with those decisions.
I also have spoken with many boys who have been okay with TPE as far as their monthly income or paychecks are concerned. After all, they are living with Me, so they could consider that part of their living expenses. That is a good way for them to justify allowing control over that. However, I often hear, "but I'm not going to sell My condo, or you can't touch My savings account, or I need to keep the gold card", and ya know what? The minute I hear it, they are out the door. Not because I wanted the condo sold, or I was going to insist that they turn over the savings account, but because they began to dictate how far I could go. They jump the gun and make an assumption. It is the first hint to Me that they are not going to be a good boy. They are still going to figure out a way to hang onto some control/power. Maybe I would have determined that the condo would create a nice, positive cash flow while it continued to build equity. I probably have little interest in the savings account, but I would fix it so it becomes untouchable without My permission. And I won't touch a retirement fund. In fact, I insist it continues to be added to. And yes, I would take away the gold card. It would be put away. It is not to be used without My permission. It is what *I ALLOW*.
Money is a very powerful thing. I am the power in the relationship. If I don't control the money, IMO, I don't have all the the power. That is what a TPE means to Me. It is as simple as that.
What you have done, in essense, Aakasha, is created a comfortable environment where your husband doesn't earn any money. And you earn enough for both. You are already aware that if he was earning money (perhaps this happened), he might feel more inclined to not defer to your ultimate decisions. Maybe he had more of a stake in the household, because he was one of the breadwinners. Or maybe he didn't ever act on that idea, but you always had that idea in the back of your mind that some of this belonged to him and it took away part of your power base. You would have to think that through for yourself. In a sense, although you have a good, strong relationship, and you trust him with the finances, you still have made him dependent in a certain way by becoming the sole breadwinner. Male Doms do this often. They are the major breadwinner, and sometimes they will not take in a femsub unless she agrees not to work. If she does work, and there is enough money in the household, then often, her money is simply put by, for her, and/or for a rainy day. And if the income is needed for the household, there doesn't seem to be this same drama regarding money.
I will take a boy with less income, but who has been prudent with his money, and is not loaded down with so many bills he almost has a negative cash flow, to a boy who is loaded to the gills but tells Me that no one is going to tell him what to do with his money. It's the principle of it.
Money = Power. You already know this, and you have already effected your power in your way. It really isn't just about the play. It really is about the power.

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RE: Does tribute equal being a hooker? - 2/5/2006 8:58:06 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: CuriousPuppy

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ORIGINAL: GoddessDustyGold

Please note I use the universal "you" here. This post is not specifically aimed toward any one poster.


I don't remember writing you at all... I remember quoting you in a public forum. I think the words that your looking for are things like "he" "him" and "his". Putting a little blurb at the bottom of your post trying to state that it's not directed at me specifically doesn't change the fact that it gives that impression and makes it look like we have some past history of private communications or relationship that are referenced in your post where you even quote me before starting your little laundry list of complaints.

Something can be a nice idea in fantasy, but we don't live in a world of fantasy and have to live with the concequences of our actions. That is why you find unwillingness and hesitation from most sane people, not because you want to claim they feel it as a threat to their masculinity or because they can't handle you because your "too dominant" and by extension of that logic they are simply just not submissive enough.


Acutally, I wasn't responding to you at all. In fact, if you check the bottom of the post it says "in reply to RealOne". His was the last post I read, and I simply hit reply. Since he has been a bit defensive, and since I really wasn't addressing anyone in particular I did want to add that little disclaimer in the hope of avoiding some additional drama. It seems I failed.
I do often use the universal form of "you" for ease of writing. There was absolutely nothing personal in My response to you, or to anyone else.

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RE: Does tribute equal being a hooker? - 2/5/2006 10:03:51 PM   
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I do often use the universal form of "you" for ease of writing.


Not to be a grammar nazi, but that is what "they" and it's various forms are for. It's especially helpful in making it not seem like you are trying to include anyone in particular with a group of people you are talking about. When you use the word "you" then it implies that someone is part of that group. By wording yourself in a way that implies they are part of a group you are talking negatively about you attempt to force people into a defensive position or to make their points seem meaningless because they are part of an already undesirable group. Saying that you were using the "universal form of you" only serves as an easy way to claim it wasn't what was intended if you anger someone enough to get called on it.

To give an incredibly blatant and easy to follow example of why it's bad to do that... It's similar to starting a speech or paper with "Iraq is ruled by an incredibly brutal dictator. Osama bin laden is a terrible man that supports terrorism around the world. Saddam tortures his people." Yes all three statements are factually true, but using creative methods of speech like that can encourage the reader/listener to make logical connections that are far from true.

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RE: Does tribute equal being a hooker? - 2/5/2006 10:34:44 PM   
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She is just talking about another thread where she imagined me to get defensive and as a result her next post she was defensive herself! LOL

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What you have done, in essense, Aakasha, is created a comfortable environment where your husband doesn't earn any money. And you earn enough for both.

you still have made him dependent in a certain way by becoming the sole breadwinner.


first he makes a 4500 buck write off per year just for being there, and since he is helping in the business she is not the "one" who makes all the money they both do. there are other write offs for him too that i wont get into.

ok i will bite, so that all sounds good on paper.

So how do you set it so someone can feel absolutely comfortable you wont be dipping? and what percentage of the bills do you contribute?

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RE: Does tribute equal being a hooker? - 2/5/2006 10:38:31 PM   
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I just want to go on record as no longer watching or reading this thread. It's no longer about whether or not someone who receives payment for services rendered can be considered a sex worker or not. It has turned into a mean spirited and childish form of SOUR GRAPES where jealous males are looking for any and every excuse to throw rocks at women. Arguements have gone round and round and the boys are so frustrated that they can't get the Domme's goats that they have been reduced to name calling and grammar corrections. I believe the final straw was seeing the post in which the author made a loosely veiled comparison of another poster and 2 well known terrorists....

THANK YOU VERY MUCH, AND ON THAT NOTE...GOOD LUCK TO YOU.


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RE: Does tribute equal being a hooker? - 2/5/2006 10:42:17 PM   
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So how do you set it so someone can feel absolutely comfortable you wont be dipping?
Have you ever been married? I'm guessing from your vehemence in regards to control of money that you never have been or that your wife made less money than you, otherwise you'd have to consider you were being a gigolo, living in the style to which she could provide for you???

Ever hear a husband or wife say "bitch keep your hands off of my money?" What would the point be if all you are is roomates who share the bills? M

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RE: Does tribute equal being a hooker? - 2/5/2006 10:47:17 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Real0ne

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ORIGINAL: CuriousPuppy


She is just talking about another thread where she imagined me to get defensive and as a result her next post she was defensive herself! LOL

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ORIGINAL: GoddessDustyGold

What you have done, in essense, Aakasha, is created a comfortable environment where your husband doesn't earn any money. And you earn enough for both.

you still have made him dependent in a certain way by becoming the sole breadwinner.


first he makes a 4500 buck write off per year just for being there, and since he is helping in the business she is not the "one" who makes all the money they both do. there are other write offs for him too that i wont get into.

ok i will bite, so that all sounds good on paper.

So how do you set it so someone can feel absolutely comfortable you wont be dipping? and what percentage of the bills do you contribute?



A perfect example of how most people don't understand what a "write off" is. If he made a $4,500/yr write off (which he doesn't, he is a partner in my business so he is employed, but not outside the house and not bringing in additional income), is that supposed to be some huge amount of money that has an impact? How does a $4,500/year write off (if it existed) compare to him making a $40,000yr salary (entry level guess for his field, might be lower)?

And without knowing a single thing about what he does to "help the business" other than what I stated, how do you know he's earning money for it? He could be giving me foot massages all day long and still be my employee. His employment does not impact the amount of money I bring in a year either way. All it does is make my life less stressful. That's got a higher value than cash.

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RE: Does tribute equal being a hooker? - 2/5/2006 10:50:11 PM   
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So how do you set it so someone can feel absolutely comfortable you wont be dipping?
Have you ever been married? I'm guessing from your vehemence in regards to control of money that you never have been or that your wife made less money than you, otherwise you'd have to consider you were being a gigolo, living in the style to which she could provide for you???

Ever hear a husband or wife say "bitch keep your hands off of my money?" What would the point be if all you are is roomates who share the bills? M


He misses the point entirely that she is looking for a TPE life partner. She could feasibly have the man's balls in a vice and cut them off if she lost her mind for a moment; the relationship is built on trust. If he can trust her with every thing in his life, he'd trust she's being honest about the money.

Wow. Maybe I need to go check the books and make sure my man isn't booking trips to Hawaii during my business trips and entertaining hookers with my cash.

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RE: Does tribute equal being a hooker? - 2/5/2006 10:53:25 PM   
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ORIGINAL: BlkTallFullfig

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So how do you set it so someone can feel absolutely comfortable you wont be dipping?
Have you ever been married? I'm guessing from your vehemence in regards to control of money that you never have been or that your wife made less money than you, otherwise you'd have to consider you were being a gigolo, living in the style to which she could provide for you???

Ever hear a husband or wife say "bitch keep your hands off of my money?" What would the point be if all you are is roomates who share the bills? M


well it stands to reason that the only people who worry about money are the ones that have it :)

just because someone has it setup so a boy cant touch it doesnt mean that she cant dip in it. thats pretty common they make it so they can dip. NOT saying that is what she is doing but i want to hear how she does it.

Marriage? tpe slavery and marriage are 2 different things i think



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RE: Does tribute equal being a hooker? - 2/5/2006 10:54:58 PM   
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And without knowing a single thing about what he does to "help the business" other than what I stated, how do you know he's earning money for it? He could be giving me foot massages all day long and still be my employee. His employment does not impact the amount of money I bring in a year either way. All it does is make my life less stressful. That's got a higher value than cash.
Akasha
The bottom line in my opinion is that to these men, nothing and no one has a higher value than cash, and I personally don't begrudge them that. I'm very grateful to learn someone lacks a generous spirit sooner than later, because in the past it's always ended up being me with less money by trusting they are generous until I find out otherwise. M

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RE: Does tribute equal being a hooker? - 2/5/2006 11:01:01 PM   
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Marriage? tpe slavery and marriage are 2 different things i think
Each relationship is different, but TPE is a lot like marriage to me in that it's an all emcompassing relationship (with me), and for that reason it should involve legal papers to protect all parties in the event of relationship demise (if the parties aren't actually married).

I wholeheartedly agree with Dusty on the concept of Total Power Exchange, and feel she would take the apropriate steps to ensure everyone's "relative" security.
I don't support the idea of anyone giving over full control without some arangements made for the future/retirement or separation.

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well it stands to reason that the only people who worry about money are the ones that have it :)
I actually find the exact opposite to be true! Either that or someone who grew up destitute comes into money, than all they do is worry about keeping it. I've never been rich, but I have had moments where I've had all I've wanted... Than again money is not what makes me happy, not even when I buy the perfect dress or shoes (on sale ). M

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RE: Does tribute equal being a hooker? - 2/5/2006 11:02:33 PM   
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ORIGINAL: AAkasha

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ORIGINAL: BlkTallFullfig

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So how do you set it so someone can feel absolutely comfortable you wont be dipping?
Have you ever been married? I'm guessing from your vehemence in regards to control of money that you never have been or that your wife made less money than you, otherwise you'd have to consider you were being a gigolo, living in the style to which she could provide for you???

Ever hear a husband or wife say "bitch keep your hands off of my money?" What would the point be if all you are is roomates who share the bills? M


He misses the point entirely that she is looking for a TPE life partner. She could feasibly have the man's balls in a vice and cut them off if she lost her mind for a moment; the relationship is built on trust. If he can trust her with every thing in his life, he'd trust she's being honest about the money.

Wow. Maybe I need to go check the books and make sure my man isn't booking trips to Hawaii during my business trips and entertaining hookers with my cash.

Akasha



hey no charge :)

no i have th epoint perfectly. she wants trust in a world of little or no trust. how many mllionaires come a courting tpe where accounts can be dipped into?

well the factof the matter is that any guy with a million bucks who is going to trust somone living day to day would have to be out of their mind to let them control his assets. anyone knows that when you marry at my age you marry into equal assets so when the court splits it up its an equal split or you have prenups a mile long.

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RE: Does tribute equal being a hooker? - 2/5/2006 11:08:27 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Real0ne


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ORIGINAL: AAkasha

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ORIGINAL: BlkTallFullfig

quote:

So how do you set it so someone can feel absolutely comfortable you wont be dipping?
Have you ever been married? I'm guessing from your vehemence in regards to control of money that you never have been or that your wife made less money than you, otherwise you'd have to consider you were being a gigolo, living in the style to which she could provide for you???

Ever hear a husband or wife say "bitch keep your hands off of my money?" What would the point be if all you are is roomates who share the bills? M


He misses the point entirely that she is looking for a TPE life partner. She could feasibly have the man's balls in a vice and cut them off if she lost her mind for a moment; the relationship is built on trust. If he can trust her with every thing in his life, he'd trust she's being honest about the money.

Wow. Maybe I need to go check the books and make sure my man isn't booking trips to Hawaii during my business trips and entertaining hookers with my cash.

Akasha



hey no charge :)

no i have th epoint perfectly. she wants trust in a world of little or no trust. how many mllionaires come a courting tpe where accounts can be dipped into?

well the factof the matter is that any guy with a million bucks who is going to trust somone living day to day would have to be out of their mind to let them control his assets. anyone knows that when you marry at my age you marry into equal assets so when the court splits it up its an equal split or you have prenups a mile long.


Wow. You're going to grow old a lonely, bitter man.

Loosen the grip on that wallet, man. It's going to kill you in the end. When you enter into a relationship based on love and trust, control of the money is just a part of the process.

Maybe you should have gotten married younger. Now you have to go around looking for some old broad that won't take your money. Sucks to be you.

Akasha

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RE: Does tribute equal being a hooker? - 2/5/2006 11:14:10 PM   
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ORIGINAL: BlkTallFullfig

quote:

Marriage? tpe slavery and marriage are 2 different things i think
Each relationship is different, but TPE is a lot like marriage to me in that it's an all emcompassing relationship (with me), and for that reason it should involve legal papers to protect all parties in the event of relationship demise (if the parties aren't actually married).

I wholeheartedly agree with Dusty on the concept of Total Power Exchange, and feel she would take the apropriate steps to ensure everyone's "relative" security.
I don't support the idea of anyone giving over full control without some arangements made for the future/retirement or separation.

quote:

well it stands to reason that the only people who worry about money are the ones that have it :)
I actually find the exact opposite to be true! Either that or someone who grew up destitute comes into money, than all they do is worry about keeping it. I've never been rich, but I have had moments where I've had all I've wanted... Than again money is not what makes me happy, not even when I buy the perfect dress or shoes (on sale ). M


I'll agree with this statement. I figured it just had to do with maturity, but as I get older, I care less about money. I also don't define myself by my career or financial success, I define myself more by my volunteer work. I've walked away from high paying jobs because I wanted freedom instead, and I keep my husband at home when we could be making lots of money with dual income/no kids. The greatest pleasure I get from money is FREEDOM it brings and in GIVING IT AWAY.

Akasha

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RE: Does tribute equal being a hooker? - 2/5/2006 11:19:07 PM   
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I personally am a pro Domme- and have never jacked someone off, sucked them off or fucked them (obviously unless it was a personal relationship- such as my fiance now). They did pay me for my time though- so if that, makes me a prostitute, then you are one as well, simply based from the fact that someone pays you for your time, thought and energy( whoever the fuck you work for) as well. Please get your facts straight before you go about openly insulting women like myself who could tear you apart if need be. In AZ (where I live, and do buisness legally I might add) The only definition of prostitution that has anything to do with domination states that no person may be paid for inserting any part of their body into another. that is it. So it's even legal for me to fuck you in the ass with my big black strap on!) ...
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ORIGINAL: interestinglyme

Openminded,
I understand the thought in your question, but i thought I'd throw this in. If in negotiating a scene with a prodomme, you mention that you want her to perform CBT, then the short answer to your question is yes, it is illegal and considered prostitution. Most states that I know of consider it the same as asking for oral sex. If a domme is paid to touch a man's penis in any way, it's prostitutuion according to law. I know that this applies in Ma, Ca, Pa, RI, Ct, Az, and I'm sure it's the same in most states if anyone wants to do the research. I've yet to find one that considers it legal.


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