CreativeDominant
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ORIGINAL: beargonewild
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ORIGINAL: Missokyst
This brings up an interesting point.
I am dominant whether I like it or not. People tend to see me as someone who can get things done and is not afraid to lead the pack or wander alone.
And yet, I am submissive when someone inspires it from me.
In the first part, I tend to be dominant by default, because if no one steps up, I will.
It is what I am because that part was made by need. However, without someone to lead, something to run, I am not dominant. I dont go around telling people to do things my way if that is not what they request. Dominance for me is something that is inspired by someone elses need.
Random dominance just seems odd.
And those type never seem to inspire in me the submissive feelings to yield. The ying, does not match my yang. Mutual inspiration does.
Kyst
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ORIGINAL: Rover
I'm Dominant whether I like it or not, inspired or not. It's what I *am* rather than what I'm *made*.
"inspired to express Dominance". In other words, summoning up from within us what already exists.
And what's not to say that greater dominance or greater submission isn't both? Why not for some their submission is inspired by the trust and careful guidance of a decent dominant and for some; like someone stated they are dominant because that is who they are inside?
Nicely said, my furry friend. 
I also liked your next post about semantic confusion.
I said I'd come back to this and I have. In reading through all of this, I think there have been some excellent points made...in my opinion  ... by the OP and by some of those who agree and some of those who disagree with him. Personally, I get what the OP is saying when he states that there are many submissive profiles that state things that don't strike him as particularly submissive...I feel the same thing when I read many submissive profiles. However, there are those profiles that come across that way and then, when you talk to the person you begin to get a sense of where their submission is coming from and it strikes me as submission, even if it is not what appeals to me as a dominant...and sometimes even more surprisingly it does. Then there are the profiles where you find no trace of submission...either by intent or vagueness. Then, when you begin communicating with these people, you either sense submission or you do not. And finally, there are the submissive profiles that indicate that they are submissive, they are just waiting for the right one to draw it out of them...and when you talk to them, you just know in your head and your heart that they are going to be waiting a long, LONG time. Many of these folks have the convenient statement(s) of "well...you are just not the RIGHT dominant to draw my submission out" or "my submission is a gift, not freely given to anyone who has not earned it" or "you're not dominant enough to make me submissive".
In short, there are all kinds of submissives...good ones and bad ones. His OP seemed to address the ones who state that they are submissive and then go through all kinds of checklists about what brings out that submission, what type of person earns it, a large number of acts that they do not see as submissive, a large number of things they do not feel they need to do as submissive, etc., etc., etc.. This struck the OP as not submissive. He has the right to that opinion, no matter how he states it and, like it or not, just as everyone has the right to feel that they can define submission for themselves...and what dominance is or is not, to THEM... HE has the right to define submission and what it means to HIM as a dominant.
Inspiring someone to be a greater submissive than what they are now? I get that and have experienced it. Being inspired to be a greater dominant than what I am now? I have been. But to fight to inspire someone...to go up against someone who directly or indirectly "challenges" me to show their submission through force of my dominant will? Fuck that. You are either submissive or you are not...I either strike the submissive chord in you or not...and if I do, then perhaps my dominance will inspire greater submission. But for me...and me only...it is the chord struck or not that makes the difference. In the end...as someone else noted...I am dominant. If you like that about me, if my dominance strikes that chord in you...great. If it doesn't but it does inspire respect, great. If it strikes you as wrong, then challenge if you wish and I will defend myself with the best that I am up to a point...not to turn you around but to make my view heard. If you don't like that, then move along.
< Message edited by CreativeDominant -- 10/3/2008 8:03:53 AM >
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