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RE: Oral Servitude - 10/26/2008 10:50:31 AM

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Putting your mouth on the genitals of another person is an act of submission to that person. [...] As Racquelle says, "It is how the parties engage in it that counts."

Make your mind up. It's either intrinsically submissive or it depends on the intent of the people doing it. Free clue: it's the latter. While we're on the subject, being sexually penetrated isn't intrinsically submissive, either. If something is done *all the time* by people who've never thought about D/s and wouldn't be interested in D/s even if they knew about it, that thing cannot be intrinsically submissive.

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Exactly.

My girl and I both love oral sex, both giving and receiving. However, depending on the energy at the time and each of our psych0-sexual dynamics, "play" force/"service" can be very hot. It also allows for a variety of play scenarios. As the old Almon Joy/Mounds Bar commercial says..."sometimes you feel like a nut, sometimes you don't. The same old same old, in a 'nilla or D/s dynamic seems, well, boring to me.

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RE: Oral Servitude - 10/26/2008 3:56:43 PM

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Foot fetishists are precisely that: into their own fetish, and not into their partner's pleasure. I've never met one who was a good sub, probably because of their reality never meshing with their fantasy, or perhaps their control issues.

I identify as having a fetish for feet and do not fit your description.

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RE: Oral Servitude - 10/27/2008 5:32:00 AM

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Sea,

Please private me on 'the other side' about this. I would like to discuss this privately. Please ask me about 'The Champagne Method."

The 'two basic types of women' are simply something I have observed over the years and it is very helpful for a sub to know both types.

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I can tell by a person's kiss if they are good at 'pussy worship'.

I agree. Just as there is a sense of touch for hands, there is a sense of touch for lips and the mouth. And a general sense for touch encompasses each.

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I won't go into the two basic types here, more on that part later. When a man is sensuous, and stays connected to his lover: Sensitive to his partners responses/needs or lack thereof : It's all good.

These are insightful points and so I would be interested to hear the additional insights you mention.

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RE: Oral Servitude - 10/27/2008 6:40:00 AM

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Er . . ME - a somewhat tangental question, related to your comment

I can tell by a person's kiss if they are good at 'pussy worship'.

How?

I think I know roughly what you'd say. Yet, I got told off by my first ever GF for being "too aggressive a kisser". She told me I had the habit of ramming my tongue (which is weirdly long, admittedly) too far into her mouth.

Well, I was a callow youth of 17 at the time. Still, it somewhat contradicts your comment that I didn't get the same complaint when kissing other areas of her body.

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RE: Oral Servitude - 10/27/2008 8:34:33 AM

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Thanks for all the replies... it's given me food for thought. I guess it's just my personal style not to be attracted to someone who would say they are into oral servitude or pussy worship because of how I feel about the terms. I think this might also have to do with the fact that I tend to separate D/s from sex to some extent. When someone says it, it comes off as pushing for sex. To someone that is currently into other aspects, it results in this face from me:

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RE: Oral Servitude - 10/27/2008 8:35:41 AM

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I know! Let's all be negative, mean, and rude! Brilliant!

Why not? It's why you came here, since you didn't have anything to add to the discussion

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RE: Oral Servitude - 10/27/2008 1:34:46 PM

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Oh, I don't know, Lockit. There are always new tricks to be learnt. I caught one of those sex-advice programmes recently that went into detail on the subject at hand. Twice, I thought, "Ooh, that's a new one, I'll have to give that a try". One of them involved taking a mouthful of creme de menthe first.

Sucking on an ice cube before is interesting as well. Good old temperature differences and their effects on sensitivity...

As for the original topic...it's the primary form of sex in my relationship, and we both enjoy it immensely. I disagree with the sentiment that it is a reward for the sub. Sure it might be punishment to me not being able to do something I enjoy, but I think it's more punishment to my girlfriend, as it is her preferred way of getting off. Plus, I could think of several other things I'd much rather receive as a reward.

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RE: Oral Servitude - 10/27/2008 1:38:03 PM

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I just saw a bit of a show last night with Sue the nurse... doing sex talk or something like that. Someone was talking food and oral. I couldn't believe some of what was on that show! lol But, Sue says to stay away from sugar type foods because they can cause a yeast infection. There goes my chocolate fantasy! Damn it! hehe

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RE: Oral Servitude - 10/27/2008 1:41:26 PM

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You know they do make chocolate with no sugar! Do you want some candy?

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RE: Oral Servitude - 10/27/2008 1:50:19 PM

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LOL... all you left out was lil girl! hehe I don't do sugarless anything! All that sugarless stuff could be brain damaging to some people... like me... so I do not want brain damage from oral anythings.. hehe

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RE: Oral Servitude - 10/27/2008 2:15:25 PM

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It's only if you shove the sugar UP into the vagina, Lockit---so no douching with the choc, but on the outside....hey!

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RE: Oral Servitude - 10/27/2008 2:43:39 PM

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Otter's occasional "whipped cream in the hooha" fantasy dies a slow and painful death...

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RE: Oral Servitude - 10/27/2008 2:45:27 PM

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I don't think whipped cream has sugar in it... well the cool whip kind doesn't. No calories... I learned that one when we had a hypocglycemia thing going on at home... so whip it up big boy and have fun! lol

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RE: Oral Servitude - 10/27/2008 3:00:54 PM

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Oral Servitude? I also eat Reece's for someone else's benefit.

No really, Ma'am!!! I honestly don't love chocolate and peanut-butter, whatever You do; i don't want to be tied down and force fed them for Your enjoyment.

So yeah, i don't take the term "oral service" seriously.

Edited to Add: People have mentioned scent and hygiene. No amount of submission or dominance will make me eat a nasty woman. If i am literally tied and forced and it's not clean, i'll never be in that situation with that person again. I couldn't respect a dominant who doesn't follow proper hygiene.

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RE: Oral Servitude - 10/27/2008 7:08:52 PM

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Point to Ponder - If Dommes do not like oral servitude, why do so many Domme names have the numbers 69 in their name? Just a thought

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RE: Oral Servitude - 10/27/2008 7:16:13 PM

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I can't recall many domme nicks with 69 in them. And what is servitude in oral sex? You mean you guys don't like it and only do it as a service? lol yeah... okay.. you need to read some profiles.. or see some of my email offerings... Naw... I am not impressed with someone having to service me orally... now someone who likes it and I like it with them... it is plan ol fun and if they don't like it... they shouldn't be there. I see service in many other ways... is it service when I give a blow job? I think not.

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RE: Oral Servitude - 10/27/2008 7:27:11 PM

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I had to go check, pulled up 3 different states (OH, MI & TN), age range 33 to 54 and would you believe there was a Domme with the numbers 69 in the top 10 listings in those state....hmm go figure.

I never said I did not like it. But when did service have to be something you did not like to do? If a sub cooks you a nice dinner and he enjoys it, does not mean it is not service.

Now i do realize that the females on her do get swamped by email geeks for oral service but there are some Dommes who are lookng for it and even state so in their profile.

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RE: Oral Servitude - 10/27/2008 7:29:00 PM

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Champagne is nice for either end of the oral spectrum.

or seltzer if you are a teetotaler.

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RE: Oral Servitude - 10/27/2008 7:34:02 PM

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I guess I worded things badly there. I just don't get the service part of oral sex. I get please me.. however it is done... but service. Shit... it's not like someone is filling my gas tank. Oral is sex to me... service is something else. lol

I guess I will have to check out how many on the other side have 69 in their profiles... I have mostly found 69 in male nicks or profiles... I just don't know any domme's that use it. But I don't know everyone or hell... every thing. I just know what oral is to me and it sure isn't a service! lol

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RE: Oral Servitude - 10/27/2008 8:09:28 PM

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Okay, let's assume the position that cunnilingus is service *cough-gag-choke-bullshit* Sorry, something was caught in my throat. Assuming that to be the case, how the hell would 69 apply? If that is the case, then wouldn't the dominant be equally servicing the submissive? Actually, that's my new argument for cunnilingus not being service; i know that many dommes go down on their boys, so that means they are servicing them, right?

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