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RE: Please Help Me...I'm terrified - 12/2/2008 3:58:52 AM   
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Go NANI!!!!!! Woohoo!!!!! You will feel the difference as you are away from him for longer and longer. I got my self worth and self respect back and have been sooooo much happier in the years my ex and I have been apart.

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RE: Please Help Me...I'm terrified - 12/2/2008 10:51:36 AM   
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Yay!  Good for you, Nani!
 



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RE: Please Help Me...I'm terrified - 12/2/2008 12:37:07 PM   
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Haha, you guys are SO sweet and SO awesome! *blushes* I DO feel better...just a few days ago, I was suicidal and a good friend of mine was trying to convince me not to cut and...just...the morning after I broke it off with the ex master...I felt SOOO much better and I'm HAPPY for once and in good moods and SO much less stressed. It's AWESOME! I'm also getting in touch with friends he made me cut off contact with and groveling with apologies for being such a bitch and letting a GUY control me that much.

And it's worth a WHOLE lot that you guys are proud of me =) It's massively encouraging!

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RE: Please Help Me...I'm terrified - 12/2/2008 1:20:23 PM   
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RE: Please Help Me...I'm terrified - 12/2/2008 1:38:22 PM   
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Welcome back.

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RE: Please Help Me...I'm terrified - 12/2/2008 4:22:06 PM   
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Love the new pic, Arduinna.
 
*not a Browncoat but knows what one is, has a "thing" for David Caruso AND Gary Sinese, and is a gamer geek from way back*
 
 

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RE: Please Help Me...I'm terrified - 12/2/2008 4:36:14 PM   
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Way to go Nani
Proud of you. Dang that is a great step and I am sure you are proud of yourself. Give yourself a hug:)

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RE: Please Help Me...I'm terrified - 12/2/2008 5:23:42 PM   
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Love the new pic, Arduinna.

Aww, thanks! =) 
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*not a Browncoat but knows what one is, has a "thing" for David Caruso AND Gary Sinese, and is a gamer geek from way back* 


If you know what a Browncoat is, you automatically get cool points!! I adore Gary Sinese and gamer geeks are ALWAYS sexy ^_~

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Way to go Nani
Proud of you. Dang that is a great step and I am sure you are proud of yourself. Give yourself a hug:)


*hugs self* I'm major proud of myself. Sometimes you forget how truly strong you are, you know? I'm starting to remember ^_^

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RE: Please Help Me...I'm terrified - 12/2/2008 5:44:50 PM   
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Congratulations. Now set healthy limits with your father. If you think clearly, you know he won't quit his job so he can live on the streets with his dementia suffering mother. That was a manipulative threat to get you to take this off his hands. You could volunteer to do some hours, he could do some hours, and perhaps there is a clinic where she can go for art therapy and interaction during the day time with paid help for the between times.



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RE: Please Help Me...I'm terrified - 12/2/2008 6:02:50 PM   
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Good Girl, Arduinna
Oh I know hun, I walked this journey ,you started. long, long time ago, and everyday i give myself a hug for going through with it:) It was the best thing I ever done for myself, and one of the hardest. Heck, if i did it, so can you:)

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RE: Please Help Me...I'm terrified - 12/2/2008 6:45:14 PM   
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I need help...I'm so scared.

The story: I have an inability to set healthy boundaries with others. So I kept in contact with anyone I'd ever been in a relationship with. My Master had me sever those connections for my own mental health. And I did so. One of those whom I blocked contact with managed to contact me again, and kept doing so. My Master asked me why I hadn't told her to leave me alone. I had said that it was because he'd told me not to talk to them. He said I should have asked what to do. And I was punished for not doing so.
Now, months later, one of those relationships that I blocked contact with a long time ago contacted me again on the 4th with a new screen name. I knew contact was forbidden, but my Master wasn't answering texts or the phone so I couldn't ask. I went with my best judgement. I told the boy I was sorry, but no longer speaking with him was for the best. That it hurt, but I had done what my Master had told me, because I trusted him, and he was showing me how to live. The boy swore and complained about my Master and wanted me to unblock him. I told him no, that it would be violating my Master's trust in me. He told me I was stupid and logged off.
I was very proud about how I handled myself. I had told him to leave me alone, and ensured he would no longer contact me. I had told him that my Master meant so much to me and by saying what I had about doing what my Master told me, I'd shown that I trust in my Master.
That night I talked on the phone with my Master, as usual. We had a short, pleasant conversation, and I did not bring up the chat because I was afraid of how he'd react to it, and I didn't want to potentially ruin the nice conversation we'd had. The next night was an even shorter conversation as my Master was very tired. This morning I sent him the chat transcript, in full. I told him I hoped he was proud of me for how I handled myself, for how I made the boy go away.
He wasn't. Not remotely.
In fact, he's very very very very very angry with me. He says that I disobeyed him by talking with the boy in the first place. Says I should have just blocked him. (boundaries issue.) Says I shouldn't have apologized for hurting the boy's feelings. Says I shouldn't have made it seem as if my Master and I were divided on the issue of me cutting off contact (even though we had been) because it makes my Master look badly. And that I should have stood up for him when the boy was bitching about him.
I honestly thought I'd done something right...done something that he'd be proud of because of what had happened the last time...when he had told me I should have told them to leave me alone.
My Master lives in another state. He is making plans to come up to me next week to punish me. He's told me he's going to punish me by beating me with his belt and cutting off all of my hair. (he knows I have post traumatic stress disorder related to being beaten. he also knows that I was teased my entire life and laughed at, and cutting off my hair will make me stick out, a target for negative attention, and cause people to tease and laugh at me again. Both of which, he knows, I psychologically can't handle.) I have explained myself to him as best as I can. I even explained my confusion. It didn't make a difference.
This is where I'm desperate for help. I realize that this isn't a little deal, but does it really warrant the punishment he's going to give me? That punishment is going to make me afraid of any sort of touch from anyone...I will physically recoil. It's happened before. And to deal with the trauma of being made fun of for my appearance...again...I wouldn't be able to deal with being out in public. I have very little self-confidence as is...I'd have none whatsoever. I'd completely lose my personality.
I'm knowledgeable about the Lifestyle, but I am a slave who seriously lacks experience. This is the first time I've been involved in a Lifestyle relationship of this caliber, a relationship that truly is what a Lifestyle relationship is meant to be. But I don't know what to expect.
I'm terrified. He says my choice is face the punishments or leave. We aren't just a M/s relationship, we're also a couple. I love him...I'm unwaveringly devoted to him. And I'm trying so very very very hard to please him. I feel like the child that was trying to make his mommy proud by pouring her a bowl of cereal for breakfast...but ends up making a mess and shattering the bowl. I only ever had the best of intentions.
What am I to do? I'm so afraid...it's really hard for me to trust people...I don't even trust myself...and I'm trying to trust that he knows and understands my limits...but I don't think he'd consider it punishment to beat me three times with the belt and cut off an inch of my hair.
Please help me...I need someone who understands to give their opinion, their advice...please...


Nani


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Nani,

you need to run like i saw the immediatly after you posted response said. for some one to take that much advantage of your mental health isnt good. YOU NEED TO FUCKIN RUN LIKE YOUVE NEVER RAN BEFORE AWAY FROM HIM

please keep us posted as to what you do. and i pray to the goddess that you get to a safe relationship. i honestly feel like you should be under my wing. i have ptsd from a past life situation that had developed in to depression and through a lifestyle friendly therapist have came back to a person that is fully functional and i would be more than welcome to in a CMail help you get to him if you live near by.

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RE: Please Help Me...I'm terrified - 12/2/2008 6:48:36 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Arduinna

^_^ New ID. Dedicate to *me* this time.


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i hadnt seen the update and im so very proud of you. this time take your time and let your heart and logic do what is right not being forced.

your a wonderful girl and i know the one is out there for you and i hope you never have to go through another ass hole like him.

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RE: Please Help Me...I'm terrified - 12/2/2008 8:37:57 PM   
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In fact, he's very very very very very angry with me. He says that I disobeyed him by talking with the boy in the first place. Says I should have just blocked him. (boundaries issue.) Says I shouldn't have apologized for hurting the boy's feelings. Says I shouldn't have made it seem as if my Master and I were divided on the issue of me cutting off contact (even though we had been) because it makes my Master look badly. And that I should have stood up for him when the boy was bitching about him.


i've been here, i know how this feels as a master. i had my slave pull something like this with me at a club in front of a room full of people. it's an outright insult and you should be punished.

with that said, there is a line between the lifestyle and the real world, and that line shouldn't be crossed. if he wants to punish you, then it should be done in a way that you won't have to suffer publicly. in other words, if he decideds that you're going to wear the largest butt plug in your collection to work then thats fine, no one will know but you. on the other hand, if he sends you to work without a top on it's just wrong.

as i'm sure many people are already telling you, being a good master is a door that swings both ways. yes, you need be strict and that often means punishment, but you must also have your slaves best interest in mind at all times. knowing what will fuck up a slave's head is easy, any asshole can do it, a loving dom knows when not to cross that line. an example of this was with my old slave, she had major self image issues to the point that she rarely looked in the mirror. i knew tying her up naked infront of a mirror to punish her would mentaly criple her. a strong punishment, and one i knew to never envoke.

you say you have boundry issues, what are your boundries with your current master?


I'm glad you posted this. I was thinking similarly, but saw the overall thread dynamic and was too chicken to write my thoughts. I'll add a couple of things.

I agree with you that it's an owner's right to punish a slave when she does something that displeases him. And also that it's a responsibility as much as a right. But I take it further: I also think that the punishment doesn't have to fall any sort of rules or standards that an outside group or community states are true and right: the only rules a master need follow are his own, and only then if he's interested in following his own rules! :)  Before a submissive gets involved in slavery, particularly with someone hardcore, it's usually a good idea to understand this concept thoroughly. Punishment can be arbitrary or unfair or a result of a sadistic impulse. It can also be the result of your master making a mistake. So what? He wants to punish you. You're his slave. You endure it. You can talk about it later with him if he allows you to. Even if the punishment stems from none of these things, even if it's proper, right and just, it won't always seem fair or right from your perspective. It might even be terrifying and make you think (at the time) that he is an awful person. But you know, that's kind of the point. You give up control (or many of us do) not to be offered some sort of perfectly fair deal and nonstop goodies and treats and the like, but to feel the intensity of lacking control, perhaps for the rest of your life, the intensity of ineqality, of being owned property without even any say in how you are treated, unless he allows it. If you want fairness and treats, or rather, if you EXPECT fairness and treats, you're much better off staying in a less extreme sort of dominant-submissive relationship, one in which all of your rights and power are not totally stripped away and where you can take nothing for granted.

I take slavery pretty seriously. In my experience, it's often very hard, in the ways the thread starter has described and also in many other ways, and not something ever to be undertaken lightly, without careful consideration of the cons as well as the pros. I realize one cannot know what the cons and pros of slavery are, necessarily, without diving in and experiencing them. I also realize that many submissives (I'm certainly not excluded) bring emotional difficulties to the table that, at times, make this type of life even harder. When you have a little experience with slavery (and I think the only way you fully learn what it's like is to have a live-in experience, because until then, when you're remote, the control stays incomplete due to the logistics of the situation) you can figure out if it is something you can or cannot live without. If you decide you can live without it, I strongly recommend staying clear of it, or, at very least steering clear of strong dominants. I'm not saying stay away from bdsm or submission, just stay away from slavery.

When you're emotionally vulnerable and open to begin with (I guess that's the traditional way of describing boundary issues :) ) and you place absolutely everything into someone else's hands,  there will be times, perhaps many times, when you feel hurt beyond belief, terrified, deeply insecure, confused, outraged that he's doing certain things to you, lost and bereft, and lots of other unpleasant things. (shrug) This stuff happens when you aren't in control or controlling from the bottom (and, if you really love being a slave, the resassurance that you aren't in control that these unpleasant things bring to you far outweighs having to endure the momentary awfulness), and part of being a sucessful slave (obedient, devoted, and generally content with this sort of life), I think, is learning how to handle them. To bear them. To endure them. And to preservere, knowing that what you get out of the relationship (that blessed loss of control and joy in obedience and service) far outweighs the bad experiences.

A sign that you can't or don't want to bear the slings and arrows of slavery might be if you frequently turn them into OMG crises rather than just accepting them as par for the course when being very controlled or when you  look for ways to escape them or to justify your escaping them. Nothing's wrong with that, unless you don't heed or learn from what your behavior is telling you. When I ignore what my behavior tells me is the truth, things quickly get "seven years bad luck" bad, probably because I am going against what is right and natural for myself.

You may need to become a slave to learn if this is a right way for you to live or not, but once you've figured that out, I think it's insane to continue being a slave unless you absolutely, 100% cannot bear to live any other way. The difficulties, especially if your dominant is very severe and you are quite willful and and unable to give up the idea that things should be "fair" according to your own standards, are often far too much to endure and also retain some semblence of happiness. You can start to hate him, start to sneak around behind his back, do things against his will, and make a travesty out of the power exchange (not to mention if he's on his game he'll know what you are doing, and in order to bring you to heel will make your life a living hell). But if  being a slave meets your deepest needs in a way that nothing else life offers does, then nothing you're faced with, however horrible at the time, will be too much. It'll seem a small price to pay, in fact, for the opportunity to be exactly where you belong.

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