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RE: The Obama Recession! - 11/10/2008 2:16:32 PM   
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RE: The Obama Recession! - 11/10/2008 2:25:20 PM   
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RE: The Obama Recession! - 11/10/2008 2:29:39 PM   
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I wish you would exercise your honourable vigilance upon the man up there who posted yet another piece of crap questioning the president elect's legitimacy. You missed a corner... right over there...


You mean racerjim? I thought about responding to his post, but it was just so stupid, I couldn't come up with anything good. All in all, I think you handled the situation very well, but if I come up with something better I will post it. Until then, I try to ignore some of the posts on here, if you know what I mean. They just are not woth the attention.

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RE: The Obama Recession! - 11/10/2008 2:48:26 PM   
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RE: The Obama Recession! - 11/10/2008 2:49:03 PM   
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http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/born_in_the_usa.html

Not this crap again? Read this then go crawl back under the conspiratorial rock you crawled out from beneath!


This is not a birth certificate, it is a certificate of live birth. It says so right at the top. And there is a huge difference between the two things. My step father has certificates of live birth from Russia, Germany, and the United States because his town was destroyed (along with all records) during WW2. Certificates of live birth are used to start a paper trail on a person when no other records are available for them or there are other issues surrounding those records. It was what makes the claim valid and the lack of provided proof so interesting.

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RE: The Obama Recession! - 11/10/2008 2:51:40 PM   
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We can all agree that racerjim's idiocy is just that.....idiocy.

I should think we can all also agree that his brand of idiocy deserves no further comment.

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The 'what' Recession? - 11/10/2008 2:56:54 PM   
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Until then, it's still the Bush recession.

How do you conclude that this recession is entirely at the feet of President Bush?

Most of the financial deregulation that many blame for the current credit crisis occurred on Clinton's watch, not on Bush's. What is Clinton's accountability in this?

Democrats and Republicans alike voted for the aforementioned financial deregulations. What is the Democrats' accountability in this?

And if you will not hold Clinton and Democrats accountable for their own misdeeds, on what basis do you presume to do likewise to Bush and the Republicans?

The malefactor of significance was and remains Congress, and the accountability crosses party lines in all directions.



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RE: The Obama Recession! - 11/10/2008 3:00:05 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Naga


quote:

ORIGINAL: SilverMark

http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/born_in_the_usa.html

Not this crap again? Read this then go crawl back under the conspiratorial rock you crawled out from beneath!


This is not a birth certificate, it is a certificate of live birth. It says so right at the top. And there is a huge difference between the two things. My step father has certificates of live birth from Russia, Germany, and the United States because his town was destroyed (along with all records) during WW2. Certificates of live birth are used to start a paper trail on a person when no other records are available for them or there are other issues surrounding those records. It was what makes the claim valid and the lack of provided proof so interesting.

Yes it is a birth certificate. My birth certificate says Certificate of Live Birth too. So you are simply making stuff up or believing lies.

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RE: The Obama Recession! - 11/10/2008 3:06:04 PM   
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ORIGINAL: DomKen

Yes it is a birth certificate. My birth certificate says Certificate of Live Birth too. So you are simply making stuff up or believing lies.


Another reason this can happen, for example, is if a person is adopted. When the original records are sealed, the child's new parents names are listed instead of the original birth parents.

So, no, I am not lying. There are a lot of reasons, valid and invalid why people have certificates of live birth rather than a birth certificate. And I am neither making stuff up or lying, I simply have some insight into the issue due to family circumstances.

And the fact that Obama has no valid reason to have a certificate of live birth is both curious and suspect.

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RE: The 'what' Recession? - 11/10/2008 3:13:20 PM   
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ORIGINAL: celticlord2112


And if you will not hold Clinton and Democrats accountable for their own misdeeds, on what basis do you presume to do likewise to Bush and the Republicans?

The malefactor of significance was and remains Congress, and the accountability crosses party lines in all directions.




Amen.

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RE: The Obama Recession! - 11/10/2008 3:19:46 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Naga


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Yes it is a birth certificate. My birth certificate says Certificate of Live Birth too. So you are simply making stuff up or believing lies.


Another reason this can happen, for example, is if a person is adopted. When the original records are sealed, the child's new parents names are listed instead of the original birth parents.

So, no, I am not lying. There are a lot of reasons, valid and invalid why people have certificates of live birth rather than a birth certificate. And I am neither making stuff up or lying, I simply have some insight into the issue due to family circumstances.

And the fact that Obama has no valid reason to have a certificate of live birth is both curious and suspect.

I donated bone marrow to my mother so I'm pretty damn sure I'm blood related to her. Since my aunt breaks down in tears when she sees me since I look exactly like my father I'm pretty sure I'm his son too. My Birth Certificate includes the name of the hospital and my parents names and ages as well.

Just called my 3 brothers and all 3 born in 1954, 1957 and 1969 all have Alabama and Georgia birth certificates that say Certificate of Live Birth.

So You simply have no idea what you're talking about.

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RE: The Obama Recession! - 11/10/2008 3:25:13 PM   
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Status: offline 		Well,CL one can argue it is Clintons recession....one can choose to call it Bush's recession.Absolute folly to term it Obama's Recession.....

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RE: The 'what' Recession? - 11/10/2008 3:51:44 PM   
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RE: The Obama Recession! - 11/10/2008 3:54:31 PM   
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ORIGINAL: DomKen

I donated bone marrow to my mother so I'm pretty damn sure I'm blood related to her. Since my aunt breaks down in tears when she sees me since I look exactly like my father I'm pretty sure I'm his son too. My Birth Certificate includes the name of the hospital and my parents names and ages as well.

Just called my 3 brothers and all 3 born in 1954, 1957 and 1969 all have Alabama and Georgia birth certificates that say Certificate of Live Birth.

So You simply have no idea what you're talking about.


So your information would be valid for your states..... maybe. They certainly would not fit the majority for all states. And it certainly does not fit the standard for the state of Hawaii. For Hawaii, the certificate given at birth is called a Birth Certificate or Birth Record. There is also a "Late Birth Certificate" to certify those not born in a hospital, etc. But there is also a Certificate of Live Birth for when either of the previous two documents is amended or changed. Get the point?

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RE: The Obama Recession! - 11/10/2008 3:56:28 PM   
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ORIGINAL: slvemike4u

Well,CL one can argue it is Clintons recession....one can choose to call it Bush's recession.Absolute folly to term it Obama's Recession.....


Because it is happening mostly during his administration or will be. This is not fitting the normal historical scope of market fall and it is being predicted that it will not significantly improve while he is in office.

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A New Day Dawns! Welcome President-Elect Obama! - 11/10/2008 3:58:36 PM   
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Obama has no valid reason to have a certificate of live birth


I'm pretty certain he's alive.

And his mother was a U.S. citizen, so anywhere he was born, he's a U.S. citizen.

How the law works.

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RE: The 'what' Recession? - 11/10/2008 3:59:12 PM   
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I wonder if Obama is bothered by the fact that the stock market has been mostly in free fall ever since the day that he was declared the winner. I understand that the man has a huge ego, but you would think that this has to be giving him pause for thought.



Yeah, and it was in free fall for more than a month before that because they knew he was going to win.

That damn Obama is the cause of all of this.

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RE: The Obama Recession! - 11/10/2008 4:02:46 PM   
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The whole thing is based around when someone is born, where their parents are from and the fact that it is Hawaiian and the whole kabodle surrounding it's own 'Americanship'.
 
Yes, DomKens birth cert will state it is alive birth one(if he is indeed born after a certain year) and is different to Obamas, however this does not make Obamas in any way nefarious.
 
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RE: The 'what' Recession? - 11/10/2008 4:04:22 PM   
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Obviously the stock market crash of 1987 was because people feared Obama might one day be President.

I think he's also responsible for the droughts and famines in the 19th century.

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RE: The 'what' Recession? - 11/10/2008 4:04:48 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Sanity

I wonder if Obama is bothered by the fact that the stock market has been mostly in free fall ever since the day that he was declared the winner. I understand that the man has a huge ego, but you would think that this has to be giving him pause for thought.



I would say it's in free fall because nobody has any clue as to what exactly he is going to do once elected and everyone is holding their breath.

The same thing would be happening if McCain.

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