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CBT - 12/28/2005 1:00:43 PM   
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Does anyone have any good suggestions on learning about CBT. The correct toys, ways and techniques. I am interested in this very much as well as male chasity. But am a virgin at it and don't want to hurt anyone. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks!

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RE: CBT - 12/28/2005 4:21:16 PM   
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Hi. I just read your profile, since I am into CBT, and LOVE IT. But then I got curious, if your looking for a female sub (not MALE like me), there is not way for CBT, unless you have a Strap On, on your female sub? But then again, that would be VERY BORING...without the right equipment.

I can help with all kinds of ideas and such, if you are going to use this on a Male Sub.

Wish I was in Cock Harness right now, BalletBob

PS Always feel free to e-mail me if your don't want to discuss anything here.

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RE: CBT - 12/28/2005 5:21:37 PM   
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quote:

Hi. I just read your profile, since I am into CBT, and LOVE IT. But then I got curious, if your looking for a female sub (not MALE like me), there is not way for CBT
I read the profile too, and am wondering the same thing too, but reading further said she is bi, and has a husband so maybe there???
To the mistress seeking info, do a search on the word CBT, there's lots of info. M

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RE: CBT - 12/28/2005 6:52:57 PM   
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Hi BlkTallFullfig. Thanks. I guess I should of read the full thing before posting.....DAH ! I guess that's why I am just a Lonely Sub and not a all powerfull mIstress....LOL

Take care and Have Fun, BalletBob

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RE: CBT - 12/29/2005 5:31:50 AM   
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Yes I have a male slave, looking for a female sub. But I would like to learn about cbt for my male slave. I tried internet searches, but nothing real helpful came up. I will look harder. Thanks for the reply. I think I should update my profile too, so it's not so confusing.

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RE: CBT - 12/29/2005 5:43:32 PM   
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Hi. I am sending you an e-mail with picture. I hope you don't get offended, and hope it helps you out in someway.

Sincerly, BalletBob

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RE: CBT - 12/30/2005 12:50:34 AM   
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quote:

I guess that's why I am just a Lonely Sub and not a all powerfull mIstress....LOL

Take care and Have Fun, BalletBob
Who's an all powerfull mistress? How do I become one? Have I got a story about a lonely sub, but I'll be a lady and not tell.

msevangelina I meant search here at collarme; I found the following, hope it helps.
http://www.collarchat.com/m_109420/mpage_1/key_CBT/tm.htm#110321
http://www.collarchat.com/m_101782/mpage_1/key_CBT/tm.htm
http://www.collarchat.com/m_204360/mpage_1/key_CBT/tm.htm
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RE: CBT - 12/30/2005 6:27:14 AM   
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BlkTallFullfig

Thanks for the info.

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RE: CBT - 12/31/2005 1:38:07 PM   
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I sent you an EMail about CBT, did you get it. If not I can send it again

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RE: CBT - 12/31/2005 3:47:38 PM   
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Did you send me the site, or msevnlina, since you replied to me?

Curious as Always, BalletBob

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RE: CBT - 1/1/2006 11:27:15 AM   
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You might want to check out a book called "Family Jewels".
It is an excellent resource on the hows of cbt, without destroying them.
Have fun!


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RE: CBT - 1/3/2006 6:55:37 AM   
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Hey Ballet Bob,

Seems like you got alot of responses to the post. HEHEHE. I am thankful for all the advice from everybody and thru whomever. Happy New Year to all.



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RE: CBT - 1/3/2006 8:23:19 PM   
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Msevangelina, Thanks for the happy new year. I am always here if you ever want to chat about these things. I have loads of things that MADAM use to do to me, and they weren't very painfull at all, but LOADS OF FUN ! Yummy

Missing MADAM's CBT, BalletBob

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RE: CBT - 1/4/2006 5:41:06 AM   
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Thanks Ballet Bob I will definately keep that in mind. I ordered the book "family jewels". So we will see where we go from here.

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RE: CBT - 1/4/2006 10:20:53 AM   
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That would be great. I am waiting in Anticipation.....and maybe you can give me some pointer on things to do after you read the book.

Behaving Myself, BalletBob

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RE: CBT - 1/4/2006 7:24:10 PM   
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msevangelina;

Nobody seems to have mentioned the CB 2000/3000 with the severe points of intrigue. I consider the severe POI too intense for me, but might wear them occasionally. I have NOT and will not blunt the spikes. These draw blood but I don't think they can penetrate enough to really harm anything, but they can be seriously painful. The set comes with mild, medium and severe and I've heard of more than one being worn at the same time.

With the CB2000 which is shaped like a cute little cage (and I mean little) the bars leave marks if the wearer stays hard for a while. You also have many options due to the access in between the bars. Wires come to mind. They sell eletro bands for the penis and I think you could use them with it.

With the CB3000 there is another device available called the KSD. It makes an erection less comfy I'm sure, but I have never tried one. Without the addons the CB3000 is comfy, that's what it was designed for, but the evil genius in me can take care of that easily.

Once you become familiar with these devices (cb3000.com) you will see the possibilities. You will probably want both. The 2000 has solid A rings behing the scrotum while the 3000's are hinged. You get like 4 or 5 rings with each but they are not really interchangable.

Evil genius mode on : in the 2000, use some string. Poke things in there. With the 3000 it's even better. Since the coverage is pretty complete, you can shoot substances in there and even without restrained hands he can't do a thing about it. Use icewater or something to get him to shrink and use a small syringe or baster to put something in there. Once he retracts a bit you can get it pretty covered through the slit. Then warm up the tube a bit with your hand. The head of the penis will soon touch the inner surface and boom.

Toothpaste will make it feel cold. It might make it shrink but it's a concentrated cold so he might not shrink out of it. On the other hand hot sauce is what the T means in CBT. Cool thing about a CB3000, once the substance is applied you can free his hands and watch him try to do something about it.

I'm sure electricity can be used in either device somehow. Another thing would be to replace the locking pin with a bolt and a couple of nuts. By choosing the ring(s) carefully and using no spacers at all you can have alot of fun with a wrench :-). You choose the ring by whatever is the smallest ring the larger of his testicles will fit. You might not want to do this for long term wear, but for CBT it's a good precursor. Put him in it a few hours beforehand.

Also in either device there is nothing stopping you from putting a cord around his whole set UNDER the ring. In this case use a method of tightening that will allow release because you might not want to release the whole thing to get it off, for example if he has to pee.

So, ply him with a few beers and get him to tolerate it tighter, then punish him after he pees. I'm sure you can think of something. In either device his balls are exposed. Actually you can exert quite a bit of ball crushing power with his own scrotum. If he's got a loose scrotum you can use multiple rings, Hint: use the smallest one first.

Evil genius mode off : Be careful. If you EVER restrict him from urinating do it at the base, right at skin level of the pelvis. The pressure you apply by tightening the device should not prevent him from urinating, so that is a seperate form of punishment/control. Also watch for the balls getting too red, and especially any hint of blue at all.

In either case I encourage you to somehow tie the device down to his body. This will make it alot better. More restricting in the 3000 and more uncomfortable in the 2000. Also makes it harder to stimulate, especially in the 3000. If you like, when he's bulging out of the few, small openings, go ahead and tease him through the slit with your tongue. This will cause him pain in the base of the penis until you get the harness adjusted just right. That kind of pain is bad for him. I have experienced it and this is a bad pain, one that tells me I am being injured. A bit different. If he's all hard and contained like that you might have to move "him" side to side. What it is is a bottlneck, where the portion of the penis under the skin has grown in width and it kind of blowing out. This can cause a serious condition. If you intend to restrict an erection you must do it right to avoid problems. The main thing is to have the inlet of the device match the position of the base of his penis very closely. If done correctly you can tease him with your tongue but he won't get off. There is absolutely not enough stimulation possible.

After that get the cold water and throw in a couple of POIs. That'll loosen up on his balls but now he has not gotten off and is still horny. It's only a matter of time. The POIs will do their job quite effectively. After that, switch cages to the 2000 and tease him with Qtips and such. Watch him bulge out of that. Think of the marks it'll leave by morning, and it will.

Nice thing about the CBX000 devices is that they are somewhat modular. Warning, that does not mean the all parts are interchangable. You might literally have to buy the 2000, an upgrade for that to the 3000, and then a stock 3000 for the split rings. That might even mean multiple sets of POI, but they're only $20.

Actually, if it is possible in your's and his situations, you might be able to make him wear it 24/7. That's a nice touch don'tcha think ?

Damn, I guess evil genius mode was in standby or something ;-|

Anyway, that's for starters, have fun. I don't think he'll cum in a strapped down 3000, but might in a 2000. So tease him less in the 2000. If he can actually climax in a CB3000 that is properly strapped down he is rare. A Man CAN have an orgasm with no stimulation, otherwise how do you explain a wet dream ? Even if you go to real CBT like a KTB or something of that nature it will probably make it more fun.

There is also a German CB device maker offering internal spikes. This is a beltless device and might require a PA piercing. Not sure right now.

More later.

T

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RE: CBT - 1/8/2006 3:11:05 AM   
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Here a link for some well described techniques, including photographs, which might be helpful:

http://www.chicago-mistress.com/binding-the-family-jewels.html

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RE: CBT - 1/8/2006 7:12:21 PM   
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Hey Letslut...THANKS ! I had to bookmark that site, adn plan to visit it more when I have more time, and see if I can still remember my Boy Scout Knots.

The other night, I tried something I made for my Nipples, but couldn't use it on them since thye would have to be pullled ouot, and I only have 2 hands. I got a wooden ruler, and cut it at 4". I then split the ruler in half lengthwise, to make 2 long skinny pieces of wood. I then drilled holes near the ends, and used Maching Screws and Wing Nuts. I loosened it all the way and slipped my "Cookies" in it, then began to tighten the Wing Nuts, evenly. Well I tightened it up and it worked great to seperate by balles from by crotch. Way cool!

Too much spare time on my hands, BalletBob

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RE: CBT - 1/15/2006 2:39:02 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Letslust

Here a link for some well described techniques, including photographs, which might be helpful:

http://www.chicago-mistress.com/binding-the-family-jewels.html


wow, good site, does anyone else know sites like this?

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RE: CBT - 1/15/2006 5:09:52 AM   
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Being a huge fan of CBT myself, here's a list of some of the types of play that I enjoy.

Learn how to whip the ends of rope. The same technique can be applied to the scrotum between the body and the test tickles. Parachute cord is good, tiny hemp rope is better. If you go tight enough to turn them purple, you should limit the time they're tied up to fifteen or twenty minutes. If they go numb, it's time to untie them.

Sounds and catheters. Ureathral insertion isn't really painful if you're doing it right. But the idea of it really squiks a lot of guys. If you get into this sort of play, cleanliness and proper technique are crutial. The best approach is to learn from somebody with a lot of experience or a health care professional.

If you have a farm supply store near by, you might want to score an elastrator setup. There's a plier looking gizmo that stretches very small latex bands so that sheep testes can be pulled through. Then let off the handles, and roll the band off the pins one by one. It's best to lube up the scrotum before application. Get a pair of cat claw scissors to cut off the bands. The cat claw scissors will have rough edges, smooth them with fine emory cloth before using them. An elastrator band will turn the balls a dark shade of purple. 15 minutes is the longest you should ever leave one on. Elastrator setups can also be had from some adult toy stores for about three times the price. Also, the most intense part of an elastrator scene is when you cut off the band, even after only a couple of minutes, you'll get a good scream out of it.

Electrical toys are wonderful for CBT. A TENS unit either with pads or purpose build CBT accessories can be quite fun. My favorite is a stun gun. 200,000 to 300,000 volts is best. High dollar stun guns are much stronger, buy a cheapo one for SM play. Swap meets and gun shows are the best sources.

I really like being kneed in the groin. Not too gawd awful hard, if you start out somewhat gently, then build up in intensity, you'll have a lot more fun. Having the guy sit on a low chair or stairs then stepping on his balls is quite nice also. Some guys really enjoy having their testicles held in one hand then smacked or punched with the other hand. Or just grab hold of his boys and squeeze or pull.

If you're going to do any purcussion on the cock itself, remember that it can't take as much impact when erect. Never do anything that bends or squishes flat an erect penis. If you rupture the erectile tissue, you will have broken your toy and odds of it ever working properly again are very slim.

Also, sharp pokey things are lots of fun on the boy parts. Unless you have real live piercing training, don't actually penetrate the skin. This is where a little mind fuck can be a lot of fun. Lay out your toys, include a sharp knife or scalpel and some sort of needle or a Whartenburg Wheel, then blindfold your boy. The edge of a credit card feels remarkably like a sharp blade, a bamboo skewer feels like a needle or the tip of a knife, and so long as you don't apply pressure to it, the Whartenburg Wheel is fine for genital use.

Don't be afraid to improvise, just keep it within reason. I have a beaver trap that I just love GENTLY closed over my balls. I've seen rat traps used on balls, and mouse traps on cocks. Just don't actually snap a trap closed on anybody you want to play with again.

And I'd be remiss if I didn't mention wax. Jesus candles, white utility candles, and tea lights are good. Don't let the tea lights burn long enough to melt the whole thing. Drip it as it melts. Try any candle on the inside of your forearm before dripping onto anybody. Some candles melt hotter than others. And since you went so far as to buy candles, you might as well have a bowl of ice handy.

I know, I've written a novel here, but I'm just about done. Always start out a new type of play gently and see how he handles it. Not every guy enjoys the same sensations. For instance, you can tie my balls up tight enough to turn them cherry red and I'm having a good time, but wack them even gently with something hard and the scene is over. Most likely, some of the play I and others have mentioned will be a blast, while some other things will really suck. You will probably find certain sensations that send your boy flying, and others that'll have him pulling up his pants. I hope my ramblings are helpful.

Nick

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