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KnightofMists -> RE: Sacred Slut (1/3/2006 7:06:11 PM)

The effects of play are indeed a significant motivating factor of repeating the activities that bring such gratifications and pleasures. Sex, just another form of play, is going to have some incredible effects upon us. It is my view the effects in play are physiology, emotional, intellectual and lastly are spiritual. For me the spirtual effects of play have always been elusive in understanding. It could very will be that I truly do not understand my own spirtuality as of yet, or possibly what other define as divine or spritual I have given a different label.

The spiritual effects on my self is an aspect that is least understood and even sometimes considered. I have never considered any of my experiences to have any particular spiritual significance. However, that doesn't discount those that have expressed that they have had these experiences and intensely so. The closest I can consdier to a spiritual effect due to play is the affect that it has had upon the relationships between those that I love. The bond strenghtens and grows with each experience. As i become more intimate and vulnerable in my desires and passions of the play, i am undeniable faced with the realization of a deeper understanding of myself as well as the person I play with. We are more connected in ways that seem to defy words and even understanding. I am a part of some one and they are a part of me. For some this is considered a spiritual impact and maybe it is, but I am not so sure.

Lucky, thanks for a enjoyable post and thread.




IrishMist -> RE: Sacred Slut (1/3/2006 7:12:42 PM)

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Sluts Gone Wild"


LMFAO...let me know when it hits the stores [;)]




Sensualips -> RE: Sacred Slut (1/3/2006 7:41:33 PM)

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The bond strenghtens and grows with each experience. As i become more intimate and vulnerable in my desires and passions of the play, i am undeniable faced with the realization of a deeper understanding of myself as well as the person I play with. We are more connected in ways that seem to defy words and even understanding.


I am familiar with that. I am not sure I would have considered it spiritial though. Although, it certainly is sacred to me in the sense of being revered and valued. For me, it can impact the soul as well as the mind and body, which is as good a definition of spiritial as anything. Perhaps it is all perspective.




fyreredsub -> RE: Sacred Slut (1/3/2006 8:05:40 PM)

lol, shhhhhhhhh, me belly already burns hot enough
[8D]
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ORIGINAL: RiotGirl

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not to mention i get all hot n bothered when he yanks my hair and aks, "what are you?" and i reply, "your slut Master".


i'd be getting all hot and bothered too!





fyreredsub -> RE: Sacred Slut (1/3/2006 8:08:25 PM)

hmmmmmmmm me thinks hearing the word 'slut', well ...it has something to do w/ my inner animal.....i'll leave the rest of that thought alone, but yeah i think its kinda sweet.

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ORIGINAL: Gomez


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ORIGINAL: fyreredsub

a girl loves it when Master calls her 'slut'. it is a term of endearment.not to mention i get all hot n bothered when he yanks my hair and aks, "what are you?" and i reply, "your slut Master".[8D]


What can I say...I also use it as a term of endearment; brings the relationship between the two closer when you express yourselves in such a manner.





jamesthehumanrug -> RE: Sacred Slut (1/3/2006 9:19:49 PM)

greetings alba
i tend to agree with you definition of slut
and i disagree that better has nothing to do with it.ie:
you can see the difference between a regular catholic and a bishop right away
the later treats the subject with extraordinary reverence and the other casual reference to the matter,
when someone dont respect the act of love and intimacy
no matter what form of expression it takes
you have lack of essential reverence; which to me; makes a humungous difference.so there is such a thing as a sacred-slut ,vs the "sacred cow", in leather.
a pro who treats sex in s and m like an everyday issue,or necessity,
vs.a lifetime initimacy; who treats it like an ancient ritual ;and eternity ;or immortal egiptian - like-god-slave relationship
both same thing
one has reverence
the other over-uses it to the point of not respecting the act period
fuking or whatever
is like going to the bathroom
so i'll take the bishop if we are taking better catholic(it's built in elevated degree of reverence by ritual)
look at the rituals of a pro vs the rituals of a sacred goddess....in s and m.
look at their different slave rituals ;
the pro has clients ;
and the other has true worshiping and dying for her ,for the belief in her
type- slaves,
so: can't dismiss sacred slut ,vs regular slut
; its the reverence quality.
thus i still consider you "sacred" ,(albatros)
as in sacred- slut by your reverence for the title and act and state of being ....youre not a bar-room blitz(wonder what slave did that song and got ripped for it)




Wolfie648 -> RE: Sacred Slut (1/3/2006 9:48:04 PM)

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I realized the problem was that I was giving myself in that way and it was not being returned. The other person was not opening themselves and being a conduit and allowing the circuit to be completed.


Reading minds is fun.

D (owner of j).




Padriag -> RE: Sacred Slut (1/4/2006 12:16:36 AM)

You wait until I'm on vacation to post these good threads don't ya... I see how ya are.
Kidding [;)]

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ORIGINAL: LuckyAlbatross

So over my weekend in Dark Odyssey, I was able to attend a class on the discussion of “Sacred Whoredom.” Within this class they delineated “sacred slut” from “sacred whore.”

First let me clearly state that I don’t enjoy these terms and am not bringing them up to try and make being a slut some sort of elitist “special” thing for anyone. Enjoying fucking and sex and being a slut is awesome. You are not a better slut because you consider it a sacred act any more than you are a better Catholic because you become a bishop.

I don't much care for the terms either, I think they're too loaded with connotations which diminishes their utility. But unfortunately I can't really suggest a better term at the moment so I guess for the time being we're stuck with it.


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Secondly, for me “slut” is all about the attitude. When I first started asking how I would bring this topic up I started by thinking that it would obviously only apply to non-monogamous sluts. But when I reminded myself of my own definition of slut, I realized that wasn’t true at all.

For me, slut has nothing at all to with the ACT of sex, how MANY people you have sex with, what TYPE of sex you have with it, what CRITERIA you use with your partners. Being a slut for me is a personal attitude towards sex and sexuality. It is an attitude that hungers for sexual interactions, is unashamed of those hungers and actively seeks to satiate those hungers.

A woman who only has one partner she only ever kisses her whole life can be just as much a slut as I am.

This also helped me in that I realize so many people (women especially) find it hard to be “a slut.” They can embrace being “someone’s slut” or being a loved slut, but find it difficult to be bald-facedly an open slut. So by keeping things to a personal attitude level, it doesn’t matter HOW the person acts as a slut…simply that they embrace their slut attitude.

Sounds like what I always called a nympho... somebody who loves sex and sexual expression. I think there is a bit of that in all of us wanting to get out. The problem is most don't know what to do about it. The biggest problems I see come when people go to extremes in trying to cope with it, either by severe repression (ie prudes and Jerry Falwell) or unrestrained hedonists who have very little restraint at all (ie what we usually think of as a slut). For me the healthy middle ground was just accepting that yeah, I have this really strong sex drive, but that like everything else in my life it has its place.

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Cultures in history have always held beliefs in a diety. Whether it was multiple deities with different aspects amongst them, or singular deities with everything encapsulated within them. Whatever system you use, the basis is that the Gods give life, energy, and everything therein. The breath you take, the love you feel, the pain you have…it is all sprung from the energy of the “divine spirit.”

By being a sacred slut, you embody and share that divine spirit in a sexual way. You use your energy through sexual channels and embrace the other person(s) with it. You allow yourself to be a conduit, to give and receive, of this energy. Sex as a sacred slut adds a dimension of it with a divine flow

I can already feel the “OK you’re just trying to make being a slut cooler and niftier.” But I sincerely don’t think so. Divine sex doesn’t have to be soft, with rituals, or silks. It can be hard, rough, anonymous. Again, it’s not the ACT which embodies things, simply the attitude and the awareness. You are using your body as a sexual vessel to carry divine energy to the world. You do it on a fairly egalitarian way, even if you are a submissive. Energy simply flows and returns. .

Actually what I'm thinking is this sounds very much like the explanation one of the "Dharma's" in my life gave me about tantric sex. An exchange of energy between two people. We talked some about a diagram I'd seen once of two lovers with lines of energy between them and encircling them, it was from a book on Buddhism I'd been studying years ago. So the idea has actually been around for a long time, it isn't new.

But... being an atheist I don't buy it. At least not their explanation of it. I'll get to that in a moment.

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For ME at least, I realize this is why I so often have felt empty after a hot slut session. For awhile now, I’ve been enjoying hot sex, enjoying giving that of myself, and yet afterwards feeling like I’d lost something, like I wasn’t as fulfilled as I should have been. I began thinking I needed to find partners who were more into ME and would be more than just a fuck.

But I still wanted just a fuck. I still wanted that energy I received from it, and had in the past received from other people.

I realized the problem was that I was giving myself in that way and it was not being returned. The other person was not opening themselves and being a conduit and allowing the circuit to be completed. The sex was good, the act was good. But the fulfillment of the sacred energy was blocked. For me I think this means that I can have anonymous sex again more fulfilled, knowing not to EXPECT that sort of energy, and it means I can have sacred sex more often knowing I can find partners who can also become aware of what’s going on and complete the circuit.

Sounds like you found some important and healthy answers for yourself in that. [:)]

Okay, here's my take on this. This may sound like I'm just putting a different spin on the same thing... but its more a different perspective on the same principle stemming from different beliefes (ie religious/spirtual vs non-religious/non-spiritual).

For me, part of sex is passion. That's a part of me that I share in sex. Whoever she is, she gets to see and feel and touch that emotional part of me that the rest of the world will only glimpse through the things I write, be it fiction or poetry or music, through the things I create, whether it a photograph or a painting, or something I create with my hands. She gets to get up close and personal with that passion, and passion is energy, its emotional energy. If she's not careful she could drown in it... but as one lass said, what a wonderful way to drown. But sharing that passion is exactly why casual sex has never appealed to me. I want that passion back from someone, that exchange, or like you describe I feel a bit empty afterwards. Or more likely I'll just get bored. Its a funny revelation to be in bed with a beautiful woman most men would give their left nut to be with... and realize you're so utterly bored with her because emotionally she's closed off (or dead drunk or for whatever reason the lights are on but emotionally nobody is home) that you'd rather be just about anywhere else just then... damn strange. Its half the reason that I focus so much on looking for creativity in a potential slave. Because I know that where there is creativity, there is passion, the two go together. You can't write great poetry that moves people, or paint a picture, or play music that stirs the heart unless you have passion. I'm a creative person, but the well spring of that creativity is my passion, its been that way with every creative person I've ever known. I want great sex, I want lots of great sex, I want lots of great kinky sex in various parts of the house, in the woods, on the beach and possibly a few places I haven't thought of yet... but I want it only with someone who can give me back in equal measure that passion. Anything less will at best leave me feeling like I gave more than I got... at worst... utterly bored. Its the same in the relationship... it has to be that exchange, or else one of us is going to end up feeling empty and the end won't be pretty but it will be inevitable.




MHOO314 -> RE: Sacred Slut (1/4/2006 7:27:20 AM)

LA, I adore your postings! I take what I want, when I want it and how I want it---I am a slut--I am adored for doing so, I am sacred---and I am elegant and classy--

So I am a proud arrogant classy sacred slut!!! WOOHOO! At last I am defined--<wicked grins>




KnightofMists -> RE: Sacred Slut (1/4/2006 8:17:43 AM)

my Dad's favorite line.... a line I never heard as a child... but was shared with me as an adult....

" Lady in the Parlour and Whore in the Bedroom" I kinda like women like that *G*... my Dad is a wise man !


editted to add...

I just realized... I have a big Bedroom *w* and interestly enough.... the decore seams to be different at times




MsIncognito -> RE: Sacred Slut (1/4/2006 10:22:05 AM)

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ORIGINAL: KnightofMists
As i become more intimate and vulnerable in my desires and passions of the play, i am undeniable faced with the realization of a deeper understanding of myself as well as the person I play with. We are more connected in ways that seem to defy words and even understanding. I am a part of some one and they are a part of me. For some this is considered a spiritual impact and maybe it is, but I am not so sure.


I'm certainly no expert but I think that would fall under the realm of spiritual experience. Like you I sometimes have great difficulty articulating these experiences but, IMO, failure to articulate doesn't denote failure to understand...and by understand I mean in your soul. Not an intellectual understanding but a spiritual one (this is what I believe to be the energy that LA talks about in her post). Some might doubt the validity of these claims if they cannot be observed and defined but I learned a long time ago that if you try too hard to intellectualize something that is meant to be experienced you usually end up losing out on the experience.




GoddessOshun -> RE: Sacred Slut (10/3/2006 12:48:15 AM)

 Sacred sluts are the liberators of repressed sexual energy !!! It used to be long ago people revered the temple whores and now that image is lost and the one replacing it is often not seen as sacred or worthy. To me being a sacred slut is someone who is empowered and owns their own sexualtity. Embracing yourself and all your desires and not shaming yourself for them. Sacred sensuality to me is a freedom of the heart.




Miseri -> RE: Sacred Slut (10/3/2006 4:20:46 AM)

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ORIGINAL: RiotGirl

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not to mention i get all hot n bothered when he yanks my hair and aks, "what are you?" and i reply, "your slut Master".


i'd be getting all hot and bothered too!


Same here! I simply love it when Master's lips are inches away from my ear and he whispers into it what a slut I am. He uses it in an urgent and dirty way or affectionately: "I love you, little slut."




Dnomyar -> RE: Sacred Slut (10/3/2006 4:42:56 AM)

What about men being  sacred sluts?  You make it sound like for women it is a good thing. When a man is like that you say he can't keep his dick in his pants.




FangsNfeet -> RE: Sacred Slut (10/3/2006 4:44:04 AM)

I found it interesting that the Catholic Church use to sanction and run Prostitution Houses during the Dark Age/Medeval time period.

As far as being a "Sacred Slut" Let's remember that a Constatine or an Agasha would never clasify themself as being a common whore.




juliaoceania -> RE: Sacred Slut (10/3/2006 10:17:51 AM)

Before I had my son I was a "sacred slut" with my exhusband. We had that nasty, sexy energy, that conduit of total sexual acceptance of each other,... slut was a term of endearment he gave me.. and I was his slut.. even if we were vanilla...smiles

After my son I began to view my body as this even more sacred thing than I had previously... it was partially what wrecked our marriage, which would not have survived anyways, but my own altered view of my sexuality was definitely a factor in what killed the energy of this relationship.

My breasts nourished my son, my body had given life, and the sex act took on new meaning for me... it was a creative force, a thing of beauty... and I did not have the emotional wherewithall to to handle the concept of sacred sex and sacred slut...

It is a concept I understand today, how to find the sacredness in sex for what it is.. that creative beauty, that salacious  beauty, that acceptance of your partner... his warmth, his sweat, his semen, his will pressed into my body... a thing of lasciviousness and of beauty.. it does not just create new human life... but new emotions and new energy

Thanks for sharing this LA




WhipTheHip -> RE: Sacred Slut (10/3/2006 10:33:46 AM)

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ORIGINAL: talltxsub
i love the quote.....i always knew i was a philanthropist of some kind.

 
I was going to ask you for some philanthropy till I discovered you were male.




LotusSong -> RE: Sacred Slut (10/3/2006 11:09:20 AM)

I still hate words like "slut" and "whore".. can we substitute "sex kitten"?  "Sacred sex kitten".. now that I'll go for :)




CreativeDominant -> RE: Sacred Slut (10/3/2006 11:51:14 AM)

You know...I found out in the "Doms are Gonna Bash Me..." thread that I was a slut.  Now, I come over here and find out...through a much more enjoyable read...that I am...a...slut.

The shame...the horror....the abject immorality...................................................oh well, whatcha gonna do but accept it and try to go on?




mnottertail -> RE: Sacred Slut (10/3/2006 11:54:20 AM)

Perception is a funny thing ain't it; CD?
I guess it's the angry it turns on over there.

You say sloth, I say slut...................

LOLOL, 

Ron




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