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RE: Slaves with requirements... - 1/27/2009 8:29:06 AM

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Gosh what a cynical lot you are

Yeah, life and exposure to stupid people tend to do that to a person.

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RE: Slaves with requirements... - 1/27/2009 8:36:16 AM

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Glad to know that i am not alone and i'm in such fine company (grinning)

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RE: Slaves with requirements... - 1/27/2009 8:47:21 AM

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Good morning,

When I was unowned, i was not a slave. I self identified as "one who wants to be a slave and who is rather likely to happily collaborate with enslavement." Due to the lack of a check box on marketing sites that make such a wordy distinction , i checked "slave," In my experience, those seeking a slave had no real difficulty with the shorthand ;-).

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Thank you, to all of you who were kind enough to indulge my curiosity!

aj, your shorthand comment was priceless, thank you for the chuckle. I checked submissive instead of slave, believing the same way you did - just opting out differently. However, you make a good point about the reason you chose to click slave, even believing yourself more a co-conspiritor desirous of it, rather than actually a slave per se. I think this happens often. People who aren't 'yet' slave or enslaved, click the box because its their way of saying they are open to the potential, desirous of the possibility.

I know that I've spoken with several who are seeking a slave only who won't even include submissives in their search function, eliminating them all together from their search parameters. Those who believe they are not slaves, but are seeking that relationship, and do not want to be eliminated from the pool of those seeking what they have to offer, are just acting in their own best interests as it is counter-productive otherwise.

Just my thoughts on this.

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RE: Slaves with requirements... - 1/27/2009 9:06:40 AM

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To those who are unowned: Do you identify as a slave, despite the fact that you are not owned? Would you please share your thoughts on this?

To those who ARE owned slaves: Did YOU consider yourself a slave prior to being bagged and tagged?

Greetings...

Before this Master..the other Masters (really just Doms in retrospect) I never felt the need or desire to beg being owned by them. I felt for a very long time that I was a slave, and though able to go through the motions of societal demands..I was not a part of it nor did I belong there. I referred to myself as a slave simply due to no other way really to simply express "me", and a absent of current law to state such so even if and when saying I was "owned" in word came about.

Needless to say that with the others before this Master..even in the conventional understanding most have today of what being owned means...it was not so. I never felt owned. I never felt I left that society even in the Dom/Masters presence..I felt I was a equal participant in all ways. I was kept in a perpetual state of girlfriend or wife status..neither of which were me...despite being ..again what is acceptable here and now as qualifying for "being owned".

This Master changed that on every level. I do not doubt I am a slave to him collar or no collar. He has been the only one I have encountered in my years of searching that made me see clearly that without him..I would continue to exist, and go through the motions, and simply utter I was a slave but never knowing and understanding it.

I suspect there are a good many girls out there who utter they are slave despite being owned/collared but inside they know it's a lie and denial to themselves.

So I guess really it is a matter of what a persons definition and needs are in order to fit that description of what being a slave is, and determining just how much you can pervert the few meanings of it before it looses meaning all together.

Something I want to add on here because to me it is important: For all the completeness and purpose living as a slave has given me in this world..It has brought at times tears to my eyes in knowing this. I'll leave that to the readers minds to understand.

starshine

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RE: Slaves with requirements... - 1/27/2009 1:46:21 PM

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I admit that I'm beginning to wonder if some are simply jealous of the attention and fame he suddenly appears to be receiving, due to this thread and the way its gone. (chuckle)

My name is RedMagic1, and I have thread-length envy. I admit it freely. In 19 months on the CollarChat message boards, I have only had the courage to start threads four times. Each time, the thread died after at most three pages. This pathetic performance led me to live as a post cuckold. I meekly chime in on the threads of my posting betters, hoping for some glimmer of the bright light of attention they so richly deserve.

I hereby affirm to the entire CollarMe community that I recognize my weakness, and I will endeavor to change. My error was that when I started threads, people either agreed with me, added in their own experiences, or saw no reason to reply. Henceforth, I will start threads that achieve the lengths -- and depths -- of the true Masters of the Post.

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RE: Slaves with requirements... - 1/27/2009 1:52:31 PM

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*pats RedMagic1 sympathetically* There, there, it's ok now. You have bravely stepped forward and taken that first step on the road to recovery. It has begun.

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RE: Slaves with requirements... - 1/27/2009 1:55:27 PM

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Red, do you need to borrow Sassy's teddy bear? (at least that looks like a teddy bear through my fever fogged eyes......forgive me if I am wrong please Sassy)

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RE: Slaves with requirements... - 1/27/2009 1:58:34 PM

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No forgiveness needed, it is stuffed, but is a wolf and he can certainly borrow it if he needs to, it's very soft and comforting, hell if you need to borrow it yourself go right ahead. *sends feel better hugs to LaT*

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RE: Slaves with requirements... - 1/27/2009 2:03:54 PM

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The real reason Red's threads die quickly is that they never spawn any disagreement because they always make sense. So except for his fan club, he doesn't leave much else to say.

As far as DD saying she read through all of the op's posts and found every single comment insightful and worthy of respect, I just read through them and found a few worthwhile comments, a lot of snippy answers designed to show off his sense of wit, and a number of posts that made me roll my eyes. Nope, nothing successful worth envying there. Perhaps DD is one of the op's harem of slaves who all sleep in his closet at night, work a 40 hour week giving him all their salary, and spend their free time cleaning his house.

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RE: Slaves with requirements... - 1/27/2009 2:06:11 PM

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Thank you Sassy. This is the longest I have ever been sick in my life! It started a week ago this last Sunday. The weird thing is, it cannot seem to make up it's mind what it is. I've had a sore throat and ears, fever chills and headache, then a head cold which went into sinusitis and now I am back to slight head cold with fever and chills. Just WTF is up with that?!?!

I am going to break a golden rule and start whining any moment now.

(Like I haven't already..........)

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RE: Slaves with requirements... - 1/27/2009 2:10:51 PM

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I'm surprised you're not dizzy on top of that from all the symptom bouncing around you've been through! or are you? Whew, that just damn sucks! I'd say you are more than entitled to whine by now, so you just go right ahead and let it all out.

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RE: Slaves with requirements... - 1/27/2009 2:14:19 PM

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I'm surprised you're not dizzy on top of that from all the symptom bouncing around you've been through! or are you? Whew, that just damn sucks! I'd say you are more than entitled to whine by now, so you just go right ahead and let it all out.

Oh the dizzy part (aside from my normal state) was that first 3 days of fever and crap. I almost passed out while out doing horse chores twice. I am sure I looked really stupid sitting on the ground, with my head in my hands, between two horses, in sub zero weather. You should have seen the puzzled look on the faces beside me. Thank god for gentle loving horses.

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RE: Slaves with requirements... - 1/27/2009 2:20:58 PM

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LaTigresse... that sounds like hell! I know the virus we had around here went back and forth for over a month and if I had to go out and do anything much I was nearly passing out. I couldn't do anything. I can't imagine having to go out in the cold and tend to horses that ill. You are made of finer stuff than I, because I couldn't do it! Kudo's to you and I hope you get better fast!!!

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RE: Slaves with requirements... - 1/27/2009 2:36:28 PM

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ORIGINAL: DominantDamsel
I admit that I'm beginning to wonder if some are simply jealous of the attention and fame he suddenly appears to be receiving, due to this thread and the way its gone. (chuckle)

My name is RedMagic1, and I have thread-length envy. I admit it freely. In 19 months on the CollarChat message boards, I have only had the courage to start threads four times. Each time, the thread died after at most three pages. This pathetic performance led me to live as a post cuckold. I meekly chime in on the threads of my posting betters, hoping for some glimmer of the bright light of attention they so richly deserve.

I hereby affirm to the entire CollarMe community that I recognize my weakness, and I will endeavor to change. My error was that when I started threads, people either agreed with me, added in their own experiences, or saw no reason to reply. Henceforth, I will start threads that achieve the lengths -- and depths -- of the true Masters of the Post.

Red,

You know the only way to get 18 pages is to post something controversial. I
guess you're just too reasonable, and will have to live with "post envy".

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RE: Slaves with requirements... - 1/27/2009 2:42:37 PM

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I'm surprised you're not dizzy on top of that from all the symptom bouncing around you've been through! or are you? Whew, that just damn sucks! I'd say you are more than entitled to whine by now, so you just go right ahead and let it all out.

Oh the dizzy part (aside from my normal state) was that first 3 days of fever and crap. I almost passed out while out doing horse chores twice. I am sure I looked really stupid sitting on the ground, with my head in my hands, between two horses, in sub zero weather. You should have seen the puzzled look on the faces beside me. Thank god for gentle loving horses.

Lol...so can relate on the normal dizzy state.

We have some kind of stomach virus going around here and it hit me recently and that added to this stupid treatment that makes me sick as hell has me stuck at home close to my bed going between it, the chair and the bathroom with the phone in my hand. I'm too sick to go anywhere and my mom had hip replacement surgery today and I couldn't even go to be with her and my stepdad at the hospital for it

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RE: Slaves with requirements... - 1/27/2009 3:30:25 PM

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I'm not going to direct this post to anyone in particular. It's basically for those who it applies and they know who they are. Message board "group think" is a psychological condition that stems from a little clique of peeps who essentially take over a board and spout "the way things are." Anyone who steps in and takes a different stance from the group think will be vilified. I believe that is what has happened on this thread.

A perfectly decent master involved in wiitwd is and has been vilified by several who can't see the forest for the trees, in my personal opinion. I find this extremely immature but I think this becomes clear as one reads through the thread in its entirety. I'm not the only one to take note of this. There have been a few others here who did not follow group think, who noted the same thing that I did.

Normally, I don't put myself out there for attention in the way that I have on this thread but normally I don't see a little group of people ganging up on one, like has occurred on this thread. I find it amusing that because I have put myself out in front to stand up for another dominant that now I'm accused of being that same dominant. It's pure idiocy, especially since we seem to be online often at the same time; furthermore, no, I am not one of MasterforRT's slaves. It's just stupid, for lack of a better word, that anyone who disagrees with the group think is vilified but so be it. I've never particularly cared one way or the other if I was accepted by the crowd or not. I stand up for what I believe regardless.

As to those who didn't care for my commentary about the jealousy toward MasterforRT, I wonder if you might scan in your bachelors degree in psychology or even your masters to prove your credentials. If you think my comment says more about me than I'm aware of, I'm interested in hearing more about your learned opinion, provided you have the degree and the schooling to back it up. And if you don't? Well, it's unlikely I'm going to give it much consideration one way or the other.

Now as to whether or not I'm "respected" here? (chuckle) Again, I could care less. It doesn't matter to me what a cliquish group, who treat other people poorly, think. Those whom I would be interested in would not join in the nastiness and childish posturing that I've seen through out this thread. And they definitely would not be supporting those who do.

For my accusers, who insist that I am MasterforRT, I refer to myself as a switch on my primary profile because I have the ability to sub or dom, though I will readily admit to being new to formally doming anyone in my local scene. My primary profile on this site is "themischievous1" and I've been a member on this site for literally years. In fact, I'm still a member on some of the yahoo groups where one of the moderators here was a member as well. This nick, "Dominant Damsel" was created fairly recently because I'm seeking a submissive at this time and its easier to find someone with a nick that shows I'm in dom mode.

If this thread has taught anyone anything, I hope it teaches that it's wrong to judge others unfairly and that it isn't "cool" to attack someone just because they think differently than you do. People don't have to think just like you to have a valid, worthwhile opinion and be good people. I hope it also teaches that group think is not something to aspire to, especially negative, hateful group think. I really doubt there's much more to say in regard to this thread though I will jump back in again if it seems necessary.

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RE: Slaves with requirements... - 1/27/2009 3:38:58 PM

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I wonder if you might scan in your bachelors degree in psychology

actually...i have a Masters in psychology

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If this thread has taught anyone anything

i don't think anyone is paying attention at this point, Sorry.

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RE: Slaves with requirements... - 1/27/2009 3:45:18 PM

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unfortunately or fortunately (however one wants to view it), we all have choice. i dont see slaves in this context, as a hog in a pen waiting for me to pick which one is suitable for owning. and as for gender, i am not one for having female slaves--my personal preference (a choice).

while i have never approached a slave for potential ownership/servitude, they have always presented themselves to me...and, thus, i can pick and choose that way. still, W/we both retain the right to choice AND have specific requirements. i think it just makes for satisfying and fulfilling D/s relationships.

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RE: Slaves with requirements... - 1/27/2009 3:46:23 PM

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You would be correct.......I saw the length of the post and the name and quit.

I rather like slaves with requirements. Sane, consensual, them wanting ME = HAWT. That's about what I got from 18 pages.

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RE: Slaves with requirements... - 1/27/2009 4:20:51 PM

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I wonder if you might scan in your bachelors degree in psychology

actually...i have a Masters in psychology

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Priceless!

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