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ORIGINAL: ShaktiSama
As a side point, though, I also agree that there is something dubious about all the screaming, pissing and moaning that people do about financial and professional domination. I think ultimately that the bitterness is caused by the fact that our society has a very, very limited range of taste when it comes to attractiveness, sexiness or beauty. Many men aren't just bitter that there are women out there who are financial dommes in general--they are bitter because the women they are attracted to, and most likely to contact, tend to be financially motivated.

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ORIGINAL: thetammyjo

I think we need to realize that these ideas of the "bitch princess" I'm going to call her is promoted in a lot of pornography both visual and written. Obviously if a young man finds such images and information during his formative sexual years we should not be surprised by his thinking this is what a female dominant is like.

The only way to really break that cycle is to stop buying that type of pornography.

I think that is unlikely to happen and thus the complaints and continued attention to these types of services and personalities will continue.

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ORIGINAL: rulemylife
Or maybe, do you think it is possible that most men are not mindless drones who cannot separate fantasy from reality?

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ORIGINAL: cloudboy

You must be a disciple of Nancy Reagan.

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THEY are mutually happy, YOU are freaking out. Doesn't that tell you something? 'Cause it should.

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ORIGINAL: rulemylife

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ORIGINAL: thetammyjo

I think we need to realize that these ideas of the "bitch princess" I'm going to call her is promoted in a lot of pornography both visual and written. Obviously if a young man finds such images and information during his formative sexual years we should not be surprised by his thinking this is what a female dominant is like.

The only way to really break that cycle is to stop buying that type of pornography.

I think that is unlikely to happen and thus the complaints and continued attention to these types of services and personalities will continue.

Or maybe, do you think it is possible that most men are not mindless drones who cannot separate fantasy from reality?

I like to watch action movies on occasion.

That does not mean I accept as reality I can fall from a 20-story building, survive, brush myself off, and go on to arrest the bad guys.

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ORIGINAL: rulemylife

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ORIGINAL: thetammyjo

I think we need to realize that these ideas of the "bitch princess" I'm going to call her is promoted in a lot of pornography both visual and written. Obviously if a young man finds such images and information during his formative sexual years we should not be surprised by his thinking this is what a female dominant is like.

The only way to really break that cycle is to stop buying that type of pornography.

I think that is unlikely to happen and thus the complaints and continued attention to these types of services and personalities will continue.

Or maybe, do you think it is possible that most men are not mindless drones who cannot separate fantasy from reality?

I like to watch action movies on occasion.

That does not mean I accept as reality I can fall from a 20-story building, survive, brush myself off, and go on to arrest the bad guys.

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ORIGINAL: ShaktiSama

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ORIGINAL: hardbodysub

I wonder how much success they're actually having. It's hard for me to believe that they're having much at all.

Actually, if you read Akasha's post carefully, you might see some evidence to the contrary. She is not a financial domme, but she has been able to observe over a long period of time that a dominant woman is more likely to receive gifts from admirers if she states her desire for a gift forcefully, and even rudely. More men seem to get something "special" out of fulfilling a rude and selfish demand, than they do from fulfilling a politely phrased request.

The point is that being used financially is humiliating. It is demeaning and dehumanizing. And some men love that feeling--humiliated, dehumanized--and not only love it, but crave it. But they don't want to be swindled and used by just anybody--they want it from an attractive woman.

Anyone who thinks this fetish is somehow rare or strange has not been looking closely enough at the marriages and relationships of celebrities and the very rich. There are plenty of "trophy wives" who are humiliating, emasculating, cuckolding, usurious bitches--and their husbands continue to "put up" with their antic year after year. Ever ask yourself why?

It exists among celebrities too. Judging by the testimony of her former partners, Anna Nicole Smith was a dominant woman. She spent a lot of energy teasing and humiliating her partners, and she was very much into being worshipped. *shrug* I don't particularly care one way or the other, but I've noticed that women like Anna seem to incur a lot of this same hostility and disbelief in the vanilla world that garden variety financial dommes do here.

People just can't believe that any man could be that kinky, or be in his right mind and enjoy being used. They think the woman should feel guilty for accepting the power that he freely offers. But the fact is, power is power, and pleasure is pleasure, and consent is consent. Lots of vanilla and dominant men can't believe that a woman who says she wants to tie guys up, make them dress as women or fuck them in the ass is having any real success either. But the truth is that if she had the energy, a woman could keep her strap-on buried in an endless string of men, 24 hours a day, seven days a week, 365 days a year, and NEVER run out of guys who want and need to be humiliated and penetrated. Especially if she let them come back for seconds.

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ORIGINAL: LaTigresse

Okay, where do I sign up for lessons. My coffers are bare here.

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ORIGINAL: ShaktiSama

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ORIGINAL: hardbodysub

I wonder how much success they're actually having. It's hard for me to believe that they're having much at all.

Actually, if you read Akasha's post carefully, you might see some evidence to the contrary. She is not a financial domme, but she has been able to observe over a long period of time that a dominant woman is more likely to receive gifts from admirers if she states her desire for a gift forcefully, and even rudely. More men seem to get something "special" out of fulfilling a rude and selfish demand, than they do from fulfilling a politely phrased request.

The point is that being used financially is humiliating. It is demeaning and dehumanizing. And some men love that feeling--humiliated, dehumanized--and not only love it, but crave it. But they don't want to be swindled and used by just anybody--they want it from an attractive woman.

Anyone who thinks this fetish is somehow rare or strange has not been looking closely enough at the marriages and relationships of celebrities and the very rich. There are plenty of "trophy wives" who are humiliating, emasculating, cuckolding, usurious bitches--and their husbands continue to "put up" with their antic year after year. Ever ask yourself why?

It exists among celebrities too. Judging by the testimony of her former partners, Anna Nicole Smith was a dominant woman. She spent a lot of energy teasing and humiliating her partners, and she was very much into being worshipped. *shrug* I don't particularly care one way or the other, but I've noticed that women like Anna seem to incur a lot of this same hostility and disbelief in the vanilla world that garden variety financial dommes do here.

People just can't believe that any man could be that kinky, or be in his right mind and enjoy being used. They think the woman should feel guilty for accepting the power that he freely offers. But the fact is, power is power, and pleasure is pleasure, and consent is consent. Lots of vanilla and dominant men can't believe that a woman who says she wants to tie guys up, make them dress as women or fuck them in the ass is having any real success either. But the truth is that if she had the energy, a woman could keep her strap-on buried in an endless string of men, 24 hours a day, seven days a week, 365 days a year, and NEVER run out of guys who want and need to be humiliated and penetrated. Especially if she let them come back for seconds.

Takes all kinds to make a world.

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ORIGINAL: ShaktiSama

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ORIGINAL: hardbodysub

I wonder how much success they're actually having. It's hard for me to believe that they're having much at all.

Actually, if you read Akasha's post carefully, you might see some evidence to the contrary. She is not a financial domme, but she has been able to observe over a long period of time that a dominant woman is more likely to receive gifts from admirers if she states her desire for a gift forcefully, and even rudely. More men seem to get something "special" out of fulfilling a rude and selfish demand, than they do from fulfilling a politely phrased request.

The point is that being used financially is humiliating. It is demeaning and dehumanizing. And some men love that feeling--humiliated, dehumanized--and not only love it, but crave it. But they don't want to be swindled and used by just anybody--they want it from an attractive woman.

Anyone who thinks this fetish is somehow rare or strange has not been looking closely enough at the marriages and relationships of celebrities and the very rich. There are plenty of "trophy wives" who are humiliating, emasculating, cuckolding, usurious bitches--and their husbands continue to "put up" with their antic year after year. Ever ask yourself why?

It exists among celebrities too. Judging by the testimony of her former partners, Anna Nicole Smith was a dominant woman. She spent a lot of energy teasing and humiliating her partners, and she was very much into being worshipped. *shrug* I don't particularly care one way or the other, but I've noticed that women like Anna seem to incur a lot of this same hostility and disbelief in the vanilla world that garden variety financial dommes do here.

People just can't believe that any man could be that kinky, or be in his right mind and enjoy being used. They think the woman should feel guilty for accepting the power that he freely offers. But the fact is, power is power, and pleasure is pleasure, and consent is consent. Lots of vanilla and dominant men can't believe that a woman who says she wants to tie guys up, make them dress as women or fuck them in the ass is having any real success either. But the truth is that if she had the energy, a woman could keep her strap-on buried in an endless string of men, 24 hours a day, seven days a week, 365 days a year, and NEVER run out of guys who want and need to be humiliated and penetrated. Especially if she let them come back for seconds.

Takes all kinds to make a world.

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ORIGINAL: Lockit

Gee... I have nothing in my profile that would suggest I want anything more than a female led relationship and I get mail all the time from men who wish to send gifts and such.  Could they be saying what they think I want to hear as a dominant or simply who I am?  Well, not if they read the profile.  But the fact remains.. if a grown adult wants to be used or to give... who is another submissive to say he is being used wrongly or shouldn't do what he does or judge his kink or act as if he is a rarity and THEN... blame a dominant for being into it as well?

There will be wrongs... but who are we to state that something is wrong when people are willingly walking in to a situation and seek it and comparing that to women taking advantage of men?  I dare say that with all the web sites out there for this type of kink or whatever you want to call it... are there because men want to be and there are many sites because so many want to be there.

There will be all types... some people simply need to get over some things and move on.  Your point that you don't like it... is proven... But there are those that do like it and don't feel as you do.  Big deal.

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ORIGINAL: MistressDolly

Honestly, I've gotten into intense cyber exchanges with financial masochists using letters, cams, phone calls and text messages. What ever fee I demanded, I got. I was a stranger they never met, but that did not keep them from benefiting me greatly both monetarily and from an amusement factor. ;)