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True love in a relationship - 1/20/2006 8:39:57 PM   
ncdom62


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Status: offline 		We are a true married couple

We live a 24/7 bdsm s/m lifestyle.

Totaly, not a bit of vanilla in Our relationship at all.

she wears a collar 24/7 , Is branded and pierced.

I am extremely Dominate and at time extremely sadistic in what I do to her.

We are wondering If in most D/s relationships is there true love between the parties.

Or is a lot of just fantasy and play acting

Jake and sherry
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RE: True love in a relationship - 1/20/2006 8:54:47 PM   
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We are wondering If in most D/s relationships is there true love between the parties.

Or is a lot of just fantasy and play acting



You see these as mutually exclusive? A relationship in which both are not in love with each other must be "just fantasy and play acting"?

Oh, by the way, how do you define "true love"?

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RE: True love in a relationship - 1/20/2006 8:56:44 PM   
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Totaly, not a bit of vanilla in Our relationship at all.


Really not a bit? No Work? Kids? Family gatherings?

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RE: True love in a relationship - 1/20/2006 9:00:22 PM   
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Totaly, not a bit of vanilla in Our relationship at all.


Really not a bit? No Work? Kids? Family gatherings?


I was wondering the same things... who did the cooking, cleaning, yard work, shopping... all those mundane/vanilla things of life



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RE: True love in a relationship - 1/20/2006 9:09:52 PM   
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ORIGINAL: ncdom62

We are a true married couple

We live a 24/7 bdsm s/m lifestyle.

Totaly, not a bit of vanilla in Our relationship at all.

she wears a collar 24/7 , Is branded and pierced.

I am extremely Dominate and at time extremely sadistic in what I do to her.

We are wondering If in most D/s relationships is there true love between the parties.

Or is a lot of just fantasy and play acting

Jake and sherry


Fantasy is what is in my mind and may nevver become reality.

Acting....... I leave that up to the pros, they get paid Millions more than me.


And somewhere in this 24/7 S/m life..... there's vanilla.

Branded and pierced...to each their own i guess

Dominant and extreme sadist..... kewl.. again, some get the lucky ones.

True Love........ depends on ones definition of the term "True Love" I have loved before, I know the feelings. But whas it "true love?" I do not really think so. For to me, true love means never saying good bye.... even in death. It's more like.. see you on the other side.


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RE: True love in a relationship - 1/20/2006 9:13:11 PM   
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Totaly, not a bit of vanilla in Our relationship at all.


Really not a bit? No Work? Kids? Family gatherings?


I was wondering the same things... who did the cooking, cleaning, yard work, shopping... all those mundane/vanilla things of life




Hell - the subs do that Naked..... not so vanilla now is it *G*

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RE: True love in a relationship - 1/20/2006 9:15:30 PM   
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I was wondering the same things... who did the cooking, cleaning, yard work, shopping... all those mundane/vanilla things of life



Hell - the subs do that Naked..... not so vanilla now is it *G*


Now considering that I did all those things naked before getting involved in the lifestyle.... well, except for the yard work... it is still vanilla to me *g*

** edited to add except for shopping... didn't want to get arrested

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RE: True love in a relationship - 1/20/2006 9:17:25 PM   
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I was wondering the same things... who did the cooking, cleaning, yard work, shopping... all those mundane/vanilla things of life



Hell - the subs do that Naked..... not so vanilla now is it *G*


Now considering that I did all those things naked before getting involved in the lifestyle.... well, except for the yard work... it is still vanilla to me *g*


OK --- Put a Butt Plug in at the same time!

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RE: True love in a relationship - 1/20/2006 9:17:26 PM   
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We are a true married couple


That's the first time I read "true" used this way.

For the rest of your Jargon; only your hairdresser knows for sure

No, really, I think that "True Love" or "Just Fantasy or Play Acting" is different for everyone involved with another human being.

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RE: True love in a relationship - 1/20/2006 9:32:22 PM   
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RE: True love in a relationship - 1/20/2006 9:32:36 PM   
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Status: offline 		- humm i have to ask how long have they been married and what do they base their ideas and concepts on and what part of 24 7 do they invent as being all the time i do know some that are but lasting hum those re few very few you want the numbers only 2 out of ten last longer then five years its true shrugs i am so tire of fashionable artsy fartsy people

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RE: True love in a relationship - 1/20/2006 9:56:51 PM   
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OK --- Put a Butt Plug in at the same time!


Laughing, good one

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RE: True love in a relationship - 1/20/2006 10:23:08 PM   
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RE: True love in a relationship - 1/20/2006 10:27:29 PM   
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I was wondering the same things... who did the cooking, cleaning, yard work, shopping... all those mundane/vanilla things of life


Even when I'm cooking, cleaning or shopping, I am still owned. Those things do not effect the 'relationship' that I have with Himself. I don't actively engage in kink 24/7, but at any time of the day or night, no matter where I am or what I'm doing, I am for him, to be used as he decides. He wants to wake me up at 3 AM just to tell me to go stand in the corner, that's what will happen. He wants to call me on the cell phone while I'm shopping and tell me to drop it all and get my ass home, I'm home before you can blink. My mental collar just doesn't come off because I happen to be doing something that doesn't appear to be active D/s or S/m.

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RE: True love in a relationship - 1/20/2006 10:45:39 PM   
ncdom62


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Status: offline 		I assume all of the replys to our questions of real love

went unheard

seems D/s and bdsm and s/m must involve some type of kink, pain or being a master and slave

and who says mowing a lawn is vanilla, as a couple of you asked.

Is riding a pony vanilla,


Or baling hay

Like I really want to know the definition of S/m bdam then


Because We have one, We don t get up at 8 am and ppuch a clock and say Good morn

everyone

We live a real D/S lifestyle


If anyone is real your more than welcome to visit and see what a REAL LOVING relationship is




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RE: True love in a relationship - 1/20/2006 10:46:46 PM   
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I was wondering the same things... who did the cooking, cleaning, yard work, shopping... all those mundane/vanilla things of life


Even when I'm cooking, cleaning or shopping, I am still owned. Those things do not effect the 'relationship' that I have with Himself. I don't actively engage in kink 24/7, but at any time of the day or night, no matter where I am or what I'm doing, I am for him, to be used as he decides. He wants to wake me up at 3 AM just to tell me to go stand in the corner, that's what will happen. He wants to call me on the cell phone while I'm shopping and tell me to drop it all and get my ass home, I'm home before you can blink. My mental collar just doesn't come off because I happen to be doing something that doesn't appear to be active D/s or S/m.

Celeste


Granted that while cooking or shopping ... the mental collar isn't removed. But you can not live the life of a D/s M/s on a 24/7 status. It's not all about kink. It's not all about sex.
But face it, vanilla is in there. From doing house hold chores, to shopping, to yard work , to simply watching tv. Not every single time will one walk out the door wearing a collar and be led by a leash. Not everytime family comes to visit or you go visit, will you fall to your knees and suck Master's cock because he's in the mood.


It's being realistic about the whole concept of 24/7. Yes a submissive and or slave can live 24/7 in the Doms home (or who evers) never to step out into the real world. If that was agreed on from the start. But Dom has to work. To support said Dungeon. And it occupants. Or sends said sub and or slave out to make the bacon to fry on the stove. But no matter who works... they have to go out into the vanilla world.. and act vanilla. So hense forth... not 24/7.

Ok, I know some will disagree with this. Oh well.... it's just not possible for both to live the life on a total 24/7 basis.

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RE: True love in a relationship - 1/21/2006 7:02:20 AM   
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ORIGINAL: BitaTruble

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I was wondering the same things... who did the cooking, cleaning, yard work, shopping... all those mundane/vanilla things of life


Even when I'm cooking, cleaning or shopping, I am still owned. Those things do not effect the 'relationship' that I have with Himself. I don't actively engage in kink 24/7, but at any time of the day or night, no matter where I am or what I'm doing, I am for him, to be used as he decides. He wants to wake me up at 3 AM just to tell me to go stand in the corner, that's what will happen. He wants to call me on the cell phone while I'm shopping and tell me to drop it all and get my ass home, I'm home before you can blink. My mental collar just doesn't come off because I happen to be doing something that doesn't appear to be active D/s or S/m.

Celeste


I never said that I was not owned while doing these things. Being his slave is simply doing his will; it isn't more complicated than that. I do his will no matter what I am doing, but that doesn't mean that I do not do the mundane things of life, i.e. vanilla (hate that term). For the OP to say there is not a single vanilla thing in their relationship is simply unrealistic. Now maybe it is just that I do not see a D/s or M/s relationship as necessarily kinky. I simply see it as a relationship structure. What I define as kinky or vanilla are the things that I do within that relationship. My relationship structure is simply what it is and there are elements of kink in it and elements of vanilla in it. There are relationships that have the same structure as mine, but they do not put the labels of D/s on them and people do not see these relationships as being non-vanilla. An example is my grandparents; my grandfather ruled the house when he was alive and my grandmother did his will in all things. It wasn’t kinky, just simply the way they lived.

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RE: True love in a relationship - 1/21/2006 7:09:20 AM   
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Totaly, not a bit of vanilla in Our relationship at all.


Really not a bit? No Work? Kids? Family gatherings?


I was wondering the same things... who did the cooking, cleaning, yard work, shopping... all those mundane/vanilla things of life





Somebody has to feed the horses, guess she does that naked, while he says--"A lillte bit more here honey..."

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RE: True love in a relationship - 1/21/2006 7:15:53 AM   
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ORIGINAL: ncdom62

I assume all of the replys to our questions of real love

went unheard

seems D/s and bdsm and s/m must involve some type of kink, pain or being a master and slave

and who says mowing a lawn is vanilla, as a couple of you asked.

Is riding a pony vanilla,


Or baling hay

Like I really want to know the definition of S/m bdam then


Because We have one, We don t get up at 8 am and ppuch a clock and say Good morn

everyone

We live a real D/S lifestyle


If anyone is real your more than welcome to visit and see what a REAL LOVING relationship is



I guess that all depends on what you consider as vanilla. All those things that you mention, yeah, they are vanilla in my opinion. They are the everyday, conventional things that others not in the lifestyle do as well.

Your posts strike me that you are a "one true way" person and if anyone doesn't live their life the way you do, then they are fake and not real. That is probably why most have not taken your question seriously. That is why I didn't.

To answer your question, I am in a 24/7 M/s poly relationship (but we do vanilla things every single day) and I am completely in love with my Lord and alandra and they with me. Wouldn't define it as "true" love though.... wouldn't presume that the love I have for them is any better than the love other people have in their relationships.


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RE: True love in a relationship - 1/21/2006 7:26:13 AM   
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ORIGINAL: BitaTruble

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I was wondering the same things... who did the cooking, cleaning, yard work, shopping... all those mundane/vanilla things of life


Even when I'm cooking, cleaning or shopping, I am still owned. Those things do not effect the 'relationship' that I have with Himself. I don't actively engage in kink 24/7, but at any time of the day or night, no matter where I am or what I'm doing, I am for him, to be used as he decides. He wants to wake me up at 3 AM just to tell me to go stand in the corner, that's what will happen. He wants to call me on the cell phone while I'm shopping and tell me to drop it all and get my ass home, I'm home before you can blink. My mental collar just doesn't come off because I happen to be doing something that doesn't appear to be active D/s or S/m.

Celeste


Great post Celeste. I think that defines 24/7 pretty well, and you sound happy!
As for the OP, I think it's hard not to react to the implied holier than thou attitude, especially when the writer doesn't know the difference between "dominant" and "dominate." BDSM is a big small world, and there is room for all of us strange people doing things our own ways.

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