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Owner59 -> RE: Limbaugh's latest attacker: RNC's Steele (3/11/2009 10:16:26 PM)
Stop the hijack, lucky.This thread is about Steele,Limbaugh and the republican party. Not Gore or every other democrat that comes to mind.

MasterShake69 -> RE: Limbaugh's latest attacker: RNC's Steele (3/11/2009 10:28:13 PM)
if he committed a crime then he must face the punishment anyone else doing the same exact thing in the same situation would face. As a judge I would have sympathy for him or anyone based on how they became addicted. Most addicts, addiction start by their own bad choices in life. Rush’s addiction did not start by a freedom of choice. So the initial responsibility wasn’t Rush’s. But I would throw the book at him or anyone for a repeat offense....but thats just me :) quote: ORIGINAL: rulemylife quote: ORIGINAL: MasterShake69 I would gather at that time psychologically Rush viewed what he was doing differently than a drug addict. Most people view druggies as the people getting high at party’s. Not using a Dr prescribed pill. With the exception of morpheme i personally never knew of any other drugs that doctors would give which were addictive. Being given something by a Dr and it makes you a drug addict. I have a degree of sympathy for those who got hooked that way. The same way if someone tied a personup and forced them to use coke and they got hooked. There addiction didnt start from there free will like most addicts. Bullshit! No matter where it started he ILLEGALLY obtained drugs. This from someone who made an issue of illegal drug use to boost his career is the epitome of hypocrisy.

MasterShake69 -> RE: Limbaugh's latest attacker: RNC's Steele (3/11/2009 10:30:04 PM)
i think you are more qualified then al gore was 2 years ago ;) quote: ORIGINAL: rulemylife quote: ORIGINAL: MasterShake69 http://www.prnewswire.com/cgi-bin/stories.pl?ACCT=104&STORY=/www/story/02-01-2007/0004518421&ED If I apply does ya think i can be their next nominee? 'Cause, I think I is pretty darn smart too!

MasterShake69 -> RE: Limbaugh's latest attacker: RNC's Steele (3/11/2009 10:34:27 PM)
In the future please address Rush properly as the former Nominee for the Nobel Prize. ;) quote: ORIGINAL: Owner59 Stop the hijack, lucky.This thread is about Steele,Limbaugh and the republican party. Not Gore or every other democrat that comes to mind.

rulemylife -> RE: Limbaugh's latest attacker: RNC's Steele (3/11/2009 10:35:34 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Aylee No. I have a MUCH longer list. I just did not think that it would be needed. Just out of curiosity, does that list consist strictly of Democrats?

slvemike4u -> RE: Limbaugh's latest attacker: RNC's Steele (3/11/2009 10:50:01 PM)
19 pages of comments on a thread about a fat bag of air.....we have reached a new low here at CollarMe Politico.......it's sad.

rulemylife -> RE: Limbaugh's latest attacker: RNC's Steele (3/11/2009 10:53:41 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: MasterShake69 if he committed a crime then he must face the punishment anyone else doing the same exact thing in the same situation would face. As a judge I would have sympathy for him or anyone based on how they became addicted. Most addicts, addiction start by their own bad choices in life. Rush’s addiction did not start by a freedom of choice. So the initial responsibility wasn’t Rush’s. But I would throw the book at him or anyone for a repeat offense....but thats just me :) I want to let you read along with me a quote from Jerry Colangelo about substance abuse, and I think you'll find that he's very much right…"I know every expert in the world will disagree with me, but I don't buy into the disease part of it. The first time you reach for a substance you are making a choice. Every time you go back, you are making a personal choice. I feel very strongly about that."... What he's saying is that if there's a line of cocaine here, I have to make the choice to go down and sniff it….And his point is that we are rationalizing all this irresponsibility and all the choices people are making and we're blaming not them, but society for it. All these Hollywood celebrities say the reason they're weird and bizarre is because they were abused by their parents. So we're going to pay for that kind of rehab, too, and we shouldn't. It's not our responsibility. It's up to the people who are doing it. And Colangelo is right. --Rush Limbaugh TV show (9/23/93) (Limbaugh on Drugs)

Owner59 -> RE: Limbaugh's latest attacker: RNC's Steele (3/11/2009 10:56:43 PM)
Rush has also been nominated and won "worst person"s honor, on Countdown. That`ll work... I also like,"HE,.... who must be obeyed".... That fits so well..... Anyone who says Limbaugh didn`t get preferential treatment on his drug charges,is on drugs... The way he got his house-keeper to buy them and then slimming her,what a rat.That was real manly of the junkie to do. Another example of neo-con responsibility taking...[8\|]

rulemylife -> RE: Limbaugh's latest attacker: RNC's Steele (3/11/2009 10:57:43 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: slvemike4u 19 pages of comments on a thread about a fat bag of air.....we have reached a new low here at CollarMe Politico.......it's sad. I know, but I'm bored, and Rush is way too funny. [:D]

slvemike4u -> RE: Limbaugh's latest attacker: RNC's Steele (3/11/2009 11:08:21 PM)
Tis true dear Rule...so true.

DomKen -> RE: Limbaugh's latest attacker: RNC's Steele (3/11/2009 11:16:23 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: truckinslave I'm not going to pretend to be a scientist, but it is my understanding that: A. Mars is, according to some astrophysicists, warming at the same rate the Earth is, after adjusting for seasonal and other factors. Not quite. For actual info: http://www.realclimate.org/index.php?p=192 quote: B. The sun is warming. The solar maximum was several years ago. If it was driving our warming it should have stopped. quote: C. There is growing dissent concerning not just the cause of "global warming" but whether the phenomenon even is happening. D. Leading that dissent are astrophysicists- real scientists. Dissent isn't growing and amongst the specialists in the field atmospheric physicists, meterologists and climatologists it is quite settled that warming is occuring and the only majot factor causing it is human produced greenhouse gases. quote: It is not my understanding but an historical fact that the Spanish successfully grew oranges in what is now Savannah Georgia for decades; that cannot be done today. That is to say: Savannah Georgia was warmer in the 16th century than it is today. BS. I have family in Savanah. They have a quite vigorous orange tree on their property. quote: Regardless of what AlBore preaches (and that's what he is, imo: High Priest of the Church of the Deification of Earth and Official Prophet of the Doctrine of Global Warming) regarding carbon dioxide being "good for" the ocean the facts remain that it is not just plant food on land but a necessity for life on Earth. What percentage of carbon dioxide on Earth is *not* manmade, do you suppose? Half? Three-fourths? Most of the CO2 released into the air by people comes from burning fossil fuels. Most fossil carbon was created during the carboniferous period, around 350 million years around. At that time the Earth was very hot with giant insects, really dragonflys with 2+ foot wingspans and 6 foot centipedes. Giant tropical swamps covered huge swaths of the planet, everywhere that coal is found at now. As those swamp's plants died and fell to the surface in such quantity that decay couldn't return all of that carbon to the atmosphere or soil and an ever deepening layer of peat built up until the weight of it all and the weight of rocks deposited on top of it converted that peat into coal. So without all that CO2 the planet cooled and became more hospitable to our ancestors who came out of the water, ate the insects and took over. Burn all that fossil carbon and put it back in the air and we'll be right back to oppresive heat and high water everywhere. Humainty will have a hard time if thathappens. Let's avoid it.

MasterShake69 -> RE: Limbaugh's latest attacker: RNC's Steele (3/11/2009 11:27:22 PM)
Was his first time knowing it was an addictive drug? He was prescribed it initially by a Doctor. If I am sick and my Dr gives me a prescription I’m going to take it. I would believe at the time Rush would never have thought that pill prescribed by his Dr would create an addiction problem like Crack. That’s how this is different than someone experimenting with drugs. There was no experimenting causing the addiction with Rush, the drug was given to him by a doctor for a health issue. So Rushs first time was at the direction of a doctor and then Rush became addicted to the pill. He did not choose to become addicted by the initial usage like people who are addicted to coke. quote: ORIGINAL: rulemylife quote: ORIGINAL: MasterShake69 if he committed a crime then he must face the punishment anyone else doing the same exact thing in the same situation would face. As a judge I would have sympathy for him or anyone based on how they became addicted. Most addicts, addiction start by their own bad choices in life. Rush’s addiction did not start by a freedom of choice. So the initial responsibility wasn’t Rush’s. But I would throw the book at him or anyone for a repeat offense....but thats just me :) I want to let you read along with me a quote from Jerry Colangelo about substance abuse, and I think you'll find that he's very much right…"I know every expert in the world will disagree with me, but I don't buy into the disease part of it. The first time you reach for a substance you are making a choice. Every time you go back, you are making a personal choice. I feel very strongly about that."... What he's saying is that if there's a line of cocaine here, I have to make the choice to go down and sniff it….And his point is that we are rationalizing all this irresponsibility and all the choices people are making and we're blaming not them, but society for it. All these Hollywood celebrities say the reason they're weird and bizarre is because they were abused by their parents. So we're going to pay for that kind of rehab, too, and we shouldn't. It's not our responsibility. It's up to the people who are doing it. And Colangelo is right. --Rush Limbaugh TV show (9/23/93) (Limbaugh on Drugs)

Hippiekinkster -> RE: Limbaugh's latest attacker: RNC's Steele (3/11/2009 11:33:40 PM)
DomKen: >snip< He quoted "Realclimate"? He actually cited and quoted "RealClimate"? AH hahahahaha that site is way past the tin-foil hat crowd. It's in "drooling and smacking ones'self upside the head " territory. Okey-doke.

truckinslave -> RE: Limbaugh's latest attacker: RNC's Steele (3/11/2009 11:45:28 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: MasterShake69 if he committed a crime then he must face the punishment anyone else doing the same exact thing in the same situation would face. As a judge I would have sympathy for him or anyone based on how they became addicted. Most addicts, addiction start by their own bad choices in life. Rush’s addiction did not start by a freedom of choice. So the initial responsibility wasn’t Rush’s. But I would throw the book at him or anyone for a repeat offense....but thats just me :) quote: ORIGINAL: rulemylife quote: ORIGINAL: MasterShake69 I would gather at that time psychologically Rush viewed what he was doing differently than a drug addict. Most people view druggies as the people getting high at party’s. Not using a Dr prescribed pill. With the exception of morpheme i personally never knew of any other drugs that doctors would give which were addictive. Being given something by a Dr and it makes you a drug addict. I have a degree of sympathy for those who got hooked that way. The same way if someone tied a personup and forced them to use coke and they got hooked. There addiction didnt start from there free will like most addicts. Bullshit! No matter where it started he ILLEGALLY obtained drugs. This from someone who made an issue of illegal drug use to boost his career is the epitome of hypocrisy. I'm sure you're aware- as I'm sure some of your readers are not [:)]- that Rush never committed a crime. No guilty plea. No conviction. Legally speaking, it's almost as though it never happened.

rulemylife -> RE: Limbaugh's latest attacker: RNC's Steele (3/11/2009 11:49:47 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: MasterShake69 Was his first time knowing it was an addictive drug? He was prescribed it initially by a Doctor. If I am sick and my Dr gives me a prescription I’m going to take it. I would believe at the time Rush would never have thought that pill prescribed by his Dr would create an addiction problem like Crack. That’s how this is different than someone experimenting with drugs. There was no experimenting causing the addiction with Rush, the drug was given to him by a doctor for a health issue. So Rushs first time was at the direction of a doctor and then Rush became addicted to the pill. He did not choose to become addicted by the initial usage like people who are addicted to coke. The first time you reach for a substance you are making a choice. Every time you go back, you are making a personal choice. I feel very strongly about that."... --Rush Limbaugh TV show (9/23/93) Yes, I know. Poor Rush. Some evil doctor addicted him to oxycontin. And he was powerless to stop it. See the Rush quote above.

MasterShake69 -> RE: Limbaugh's latest attacker: RNC's Steele (3/11/2009 11:50:56 PM)
if anyone else did the exact thing rush did with oxy and were caught what would be the average punishment for a first time offense?

truckinslave -> RE: Limbaugh's latest attacker: RNC's Steele (3/11/2009 11:51:20 PM)
DomKen, we could go on forever, but can you please answer one simple question for me? What percentage of (atmospheric) carbon dioxide is not manmade?

MasterShake69 -> RE: Limbaugh's latest attacker: RNC's Steele (3/11/2009 11:53:12 PM)
the first usage was under a doctor’s supervision or by someone experimenting??? That’s why I have sympathy for rush to a degree where I wouldn’t have it for a crack addict who got addicted from experimenting. quote: ORIGINAL: rulemylife quote: ORIGINAL: MasterShake69 Was his first time knowing it was an addictive drug? He was prescribed it initially by a Doctor. If I am sick and my Dr gives me a prescription I’m going to take it. I would believe at the time Rush would never have thought that pill prescribed by his Dr would create an addiction problem like Crack. That’s how this is different than someone experimenting with drugs. There was no experimenting causing the addiction with Rush, the drug was given to him by a doctor for a health issue. So Rushs first time was at the direction of a doctor and then Rush became addicted to the pill. He did not choose to become addicted by the initial usage like people who are addicted to coke. The first time you reach for a substance you are making a choice. Every time you go back, you are making a personal choice. I feel very strongly about that."... --Rush Limbaugh TV show (9/23/93) Yes, I know. Poor Rush. Some evil doctor addicted him to oxycontin. And he was powerless to stop it. See the Rush quote above.

rulemylife -> RE: Limbaugh's latest attacker: RNC's Steele (3/12/2009 12:08:53 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: truckinslave I'm sure you're aware- as I'm sure some of your readers are not [:)]- that Rush never committed a crime. No guilty plea. No conviction. Legally speaking, it's almost as though it never happened. Law.com - Did Rush Limbaugh Get Off Easy in OxyContin Case? But other experts say Limbaugh, 55, avoided prosecution as a result of an aggressive, high-priced legal fight by his attorney, Roy Black of Miami. Black challenged prosecutors' effort to obtain Limbaugh's medical records and took that fight all the way to the Florida Supreme Court. On Friday, attorneys for Limbaugh announced that their client reached an agreement with the office of Palm Beach County State Attorney Barry Krischer that will spare him jail time, as long as he completes 18 months of drug treatment. He surrendered Friday at the Palm Beach County jail on a warrant formally charging that he withheld information from a medical practitioner. That charge is known as doctor shopping and is a third-degree felony. ........Under the deal to put the charge in abeyance, Limbaugh agreed to participate in a pretrial diversion program. It is designed for first-time drug offenders, Edmondson said. .......Gerald Lefcourt, a New York-based attorney and the former president of the National Association of Criminal Defense Lawyers, agreed that Limbaugh got a pretty common deal for first-time drug offenders. The irony in this case, he said, is that Limbaugh long advocated tough punishment of drug offenders. In 1995, he famously said that drug users "ought to be accused and they ought to be convicted and they ought to be sent up."

rulemylife -> RE: Limbaugh's latest attacker: RNC's Steele (3/12/2009 12:18:02 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: MasterShake69 the first usage was under a doctor’s supervision or by someone experimenting??? That’s why I have sympathy for rush to a degree where I wouldn’t have it for a crack addict who got addicted from experimenting. Ahhh! I see now! It's ok to abuse legal drugs but not the illegal ones. But wait, doesn't abusing even a legal drug make it illegal? Especially when you obtain prescriptions fraudulently? You know, like Rush did?

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