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Comedy centrals Comedy show or politically partisian show? - 3/13/2009 3:21:36 AM

MasterShake69

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Back when Greg Kinnear did the show it wasn’t partisan at all and was still very funny.
My question is why didn’t Mr. Stewart ever go after Mr. Cramer in the past for attacking Bush???
The moment you go after Obama...even a fellow democrat like Mr. Cramer becomes a target for Mr. Stewart. At one time i was a regular viewer of the daily show but over time they morphed into a version of the Keith Olbermann show. Now unlike keiths show it is at times actually slightly funny. ;)

http://www.tv.com/the-daily-show/greg-kinnear/episode/498229/summary.html
http://video.ap.org/?f=&pid=0UZ9_sR0IR1IZ6ZP_6uQzfMMOiGfAkgT

Stewart hammers Cramer on `The Daily Show' By JAKE COYLE, Associated Press Posted: 2009-03-13 01:35:34 NEW YORK (AP) - Jon Stewart hammered Jim Cramer and his network, CNBC, in their anticipated face-off on "The Daily Show," repeatedly chastising the "Mad Money" host for putting entertainment above journalism.

"I understand that you want to make finance entertaining, but it's not a ... game," Stewart told Cramer, adding in an expletive during the show's Thursday taping. The episode was scheduled to air at 11 p.m. EDT on Comedy Central.

It was perhaps the hardest lashing Stewart has given to a TV commentator since 2004 when he called Tucker Carlson and his then co-host Paul Begala "partisan hacks" on CNN's "Crossfire," the since canceled political commentary program.

The program opened in mock hype of the confrontation, which caught headlines through the week as each snipped at the other over the air. The show announced it as "the weeklong feud of the century."

In his opening, Stewart announced that it was "go time." He played a video clip of Cramer's Thursday guest appearance on "The Martha Stewart Show" in which Cramer beat a mound of dough, pretending it was Stewart.

Said Stewart: "Mr. Cramer, don't you destroy enough dough on your own show?"

Once Cramer came out for the interview, Stewart wondered: "How the hell did we get here?"

Cramer, his sleeves characteristically rolled up, said he was a "fan of the show."

But the humorous tone - at least for Stewart - changed as the interview continued.

Stewart repeatedly said Cramer wasn't his target, but aired clip after clip of the CNBC pundit.

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RE: Comedy centrals Comedy show or politically partisia... - 3/13/2009 4:00:13 AM

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It's a show no more no less, why don't people complain about Letterman, Leno it's comedy

Comedy is a great tool for showing people a POV they may have not seen. I think this wouild have died f NBC had not made a big deal about it, but what it has done is got people writing about it who could care less about either show.

So in the end it helps there ratings, people who watch the DS and not NBC money shows will take a look to see what it is all about and vice versa.

It's a huge money making thing TV, and all they need to do is add a little gas to a fire and it takes on a life of it's own.

personally, I never cared for any of the money people on TV, by the time they report it, it is to late anyway, it's all about creating ratings, not actually reporting the news

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RE: Comedy centrals Comedy show or politically partisia... - 3/13/2009 4:53:12 AM

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Leno is a liberal but tries to be down the middle...letterman is to the left and attacks conservatives.

Just pointing out how in the media things are biased towards the left.
Because where is the Comedy showing peoples POV that isnt liberal???
Usually there are the constant claims by liberals that there is no bias ;)

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Comedy is a great tool for showing people a POV

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ORIGINAL: housesub4you

It's a show no more no less, why don't people complain about Letterman, Leno it's comedy

Comedy is a great tool for showing people a POV they may have not seen. I think this wouild have died f NBC had not made a big deal about it, but what it has done is got people writing about it who could care less about either show.

So in the end it helps there ratings, people who watch the DS and not NBC money shows will take a look to see what it is all about and vice versa.

It's a huge money making thing TV, and all they need to do is add a little gas to a fire and it takes on a life of it's own.

personally, I never cared for any of the money people on TV, by the time they report it, it is to late anyway, it's all about creating ratings, not actually reporting the news

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RE: Comedy centrals Comedy show or politically partisia... - 3/13/2009 5:18:57 AM

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I suppose you think Letterman was being "partisan" by John McCain lying to him and cancelling on his show?

Bullshit.

With comedy, you go where the funny is. The reason all these comedians are focusing on the republicans is simple: they are so disogranized, so utterly hypocritical, that they have become the best target in recent history. (This is especially sweet to them, becuase of the GOP's stated desire to turn the US into their own private kingdom: "a permanent republican majority" was how Rove put it.) There's nothing more attractive to a comedian than a bully whos suddenly revealed to be a fool.

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RE: Comedy centrals Comedy show or politically partisia... - 3/13/2009 5:22:39 AM

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Damn Shake, do you look for shit to be pissed off about? If you don't like it, don't watch it. I've seen a lot of conservative leaning comedians, and comedians that don't do any political humor at all.

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RE: Comedy centrals Comedy show or politically partisia... - 3/13/2009 5:23:18 AM

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It's because apart from Rush Limbaugh, right-wing comedians don't make people laugh. Right-wing comedy: can you imagine anything more sinister? (Please don't answer that one.)

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RE: Comedy centrals Comedy show or politically partisia... - 3/13/2009 5:31:17 AM

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Look at Dennis Miller. He went fascist, and his popularity tanked after joining the FOX network. When was the last time you saw an HBO show from this guy? Or a stand up special on Comedy Channel? A new movie? You decide to join the dark side, become a "comedy sith," and your income and populatiy craters!

Too bad, really. His "rants" were pretty fun.

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RE: Comedy centrals Comedy show or politically partisia... - 3/13/2009 6:18:32 AM

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Look at Dennis Miller. He went fascist, and his popularity tanked after joining the FOX network. When was the last time you saw an HBO show from this guy? Or a stand up special on Comedy Channel? A new movie? You decide to join the dark side, become a "comedy sith," and your income and populatiy craters!

He went fascist?

. He always was more of a libertarian, and he still is. He just agreed with the Bush Admin. on the War on Terror. I don't call that being a fascist. Comments like that are just as fucking stupid as calling Obama a commie. Miller's popularity didn't tank; he does a rather successful radio show. He never did that many movies, and the one's he did do sucked. As for doing standup; he did one 3 years ago on HBO. I wouldn't call that a long time.

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RE: Comedy centrals Comedy show or politically partisia... - 3/13/2009 7:02:50 AM

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I'm guessing you aren't familiar with South Park, Shake. Conservative ideas are presented on just about any social issue you can name. That runs on Comedy Central, too.

Chill out.

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RE: Comedy centrals Comedy show or politically partisia... - 3/13/2009 8:49:11 AM

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It doesn`t matter who`s who or what their positions are.In the war of words,the argument is what stands or falls.Creamer is the liberal(self admitted)anyway,so Stewart bringing him to task only shows honesty and integrity..

Cramer is so completely owned by Stewart,it`s obvious who stood and who fell.

Instead of reading silly op-eds,watch it yourself and make your own opinions.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LceizefhP4k

One question,what is so fucked up in this country that it requires a comedian to tell us the truth?

I have a few answers as to why.

Jon himself has commented that "fake news"(referring to his own show)does a better job at informing folks than the real news,and how fucked up that is.

Thank you, Jon Stewart.

Fuck off mainstream media(witch includes Fox).

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RE: Comedy centrals Comedy show or politically partisia... - 3/13/2009 10:46:31 AM

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ORIGINAL: MasterShake69

Back when Greg Kinnear did the show it wasn’t partisan at all and was still very funny.

Greg Kinnear hosted Talk Soup, not The Daily Show. Try again.

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RE: Comedy centrals Comedy show or politically partisia... - 3/13/2009 10:51:41 AM

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ORIGINAL: MasterShake69

Leno is a liberal but tries to be down the middle...letterman is to the left and attacks conservatives.

Just pointing out how in the media things are biased towards the left.
Because where is the Comedy showing peoples POV that isnt liberal???
Usually there are the constant claims by liberals that there is no bias ;)

Geez, what a short memory conservatives have. FoxNews tried their own right-wing "comedy news" show, The Half-Hour News Hour.

It was a dismal failure. Apparently conservatives don't know how to do funny. Tanked in the ratings, mercifully canceled.

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RE: Comedy centrals Comedy show or politically partisia... - 3/13/2009 10:55:47 AM

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no actually Mccain deserved it. I am talking about how Letterman attacks Bill Oreilly.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uKftpGB03vU

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I suppose you think Letterman was being "partisan" by John McCain lying to him and cancelling on his show?

Bullshit.

With comedy, you go where the funny is. The reason all these comedians are focusing on the republicans is simple: they are so disogranized, so utterly hypocritical, that they have become the best target in recent history. (This is especially sweet to them, becuase of the GOP's stated desire to turn the US into their own private kingdom: "a permanent republican majority" was how Rove put it.) There's nothing more attractive to a comedian than a bully whos suddenly revealed to be a fool.

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RE: Comedy centrals Comedy show or politically partisia... - 3/13/2009 10:58:20 AM

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lol... i just thought this was a great example of the bias in the media.

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Damn Shake, do you look for shit to be pissed off about? If you don't like it, don't watch it. I've seen a lot of conservative leaning comedians, and comedians that don't do any political humor at all.

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RE: Comedy centrals Comedy show or politically partisia... - 3/13/2009 11:06:12 AM

MasterShake69

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dont worry i will answer it now ;)

usually you have to stayup till 3am to catch a comedy program that has a conservative bent to it.

RED EYE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FfzJZLzJx10

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ORIGINAL: kittinSol

It's because apart from Rush Limbaugh, right-wing comedians don't make people laugh. Right-wing comedy: can you imagine anything more sinister? (Please don't answer that one.)

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RE: Comedy centrals Comedy show or politically partisia... - 3/13/2009 11:12:11 AM

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I am talking about how Letterman attacks Bill Oreilly.

I know what you mean, you have no idea how many sleepless nights I've spent worrying over this.

Bill is such a fragile and delicate little flower to be attacked so mercilessly by the evil Letterman.

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RE: Comedy centrals Comedy show or politically partisia... - 3/13/2009 11:17:07 AM

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lol... i just thought this was a great example of the bias in the media.

Bias in the media?

IT'S A COMEDY SHOW!

You might have noticed this, assuming you have ever watched it before the Cramer broadcast, by the way Jon Stewart proclaims it the "fake news".

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RE: Comedy centrals Comedy show or politically partisia... - 3/13/2009 11:17:33 AM

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actually he went moderate after 9-11. Yes i know those on the left see moderates as crazy conservatives. Now from a liberals POV when you attack liberals you are no longer funny and your popularity tanks with liberals ;)
ALso he did TWO HBO specials after becoming a moderate.

Dennis had a small weekly segment for a couple months on hannity and colmes. Then he gets an offer by CNBC for a daily show. He took the offer and left fox. Millers new show on cnbc co-starred a monkey but it wasnt Keith Olbermann ;) AFter the show was cancelled he went back to fox for a small weekly segment.

HBO specials

The Raw Feed (2003)
All In (2006)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dennis_Miller

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ORIGINAL: MarsBonfire

Look at Dennis Miller. He went fascist, and his popularity tanked after joining the FOX network. When was the last time you saw an HBO show from this guy? Or a stand up special on Comedy Channel? A new movie? You decide to join the dark side, become a "comedy sith," and your income and populatiy craters!

Too bad, really. His "rants" were pretty fun.

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RE: Comedy centrals Comedy show or politically partisia... - 3/13/2009 11:20:08 AM

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ORIGINAL: MasterShake69

Leno is a liberal but tries to be down the middle...letterman is to the left and attacks conservatives.

Just pointing out how in the media things are biased towards the left.
Because where is the Comedy showing peoples POV that isnt liberal???
Usually there are the constant claims by liberals that there is no bias ;)

I remember watching a trailer for a comedy movie slanted towards poking fun at the left, and it just wasn't even the slightest bit funny.

I'm not saying right wing comedy can't be funny. But then again, maybe there IS a good reason why we don't see much of it.

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RE: Comedy centrals Comedy show or politically partisia... - 3/13/2009 11:26:15 AM

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south park is more of a libertarian show but yes you are correct. That is the most conservative show on TV. But usually its a year later before they can make a response about an issue. While the other comedians are expressing there POV on the topic of the day.

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I'm guessing you aren't familiar with South Park, Shake. Conservative ideas are presented on just about any social issue you can name. That runs on Comedy Central, too.

Chill out.

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