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RE: dangerous - 4/10/2009 12:33:50 AM   
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RE: dangerous - 4/25/2009 11:57:19 PM   
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O, its happened, if the sub dies getting his kink and perishes its his/her fault and inflicter SHOULD not be liable.  But your right about laws/rules.  They suck and many laws/rules are meant to be broken.
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You know subs that have perished and the dominant got off?  You must be talking orgasm becasue law is law and it doesn't always go by what two people agree to do if it is against the law in the first place.

I call bullshit...


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RE: dangerous - 4/26/2009 11:50:01 AM   
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I like acting stupid while subbing (part of my kink).  I like being in the "Evil Kinevil lane" while subbing.  WE spend more than enough time informing each other of risks (also part of my kink that she knows, then she's constaly telling me to "shut up" or gagging me).  You made an excellent point about the law, lawyering, she has signed documents where I both read and sign them on video, which she has (it'l at least keep my sisters off of her). I know of subs that have perished during play and the domme gets off.  If you have further advice, I'll be appreciative.  I still think you have to much free time to be bla blaing and what does 'tsktsking' mean??

Cheers and shot of Whiskey to you!

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ORIGINAL: subinchico

Chico... you say you know of cases where a submissive dies and the domme gets off.  I simply asked for proof of this.  Law is law and if someone dies in the course of breaking a law... which physical abuse is against the law and punished in many places whether the person agreed to it or not... what you are saying doesn't make sense.

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RE: dangerous - 4/26/2009 1:43:50 PM   
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Some people are dangerous sober too.

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RE: dangerous - 5/6/2009 7:33:00 PM   
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hi everybody, i am doing good, we talked about it later in the week, cleared the air so to speak, i was confused when i posted, but i do wish to thank everybody for thier input, even the people who were just plain asses, so everybody be good, we are happy, thanks

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RE: dangerous - 5/7/2009 2:31:08 AM   
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ORIGINAL: FullfigRIMAAM1

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That's your concern???? That you sold someone out? Not your safety, sanity, or what kind of future you may have with this woman?
lovingpet
I agree, though it was I who said he's selling her out.   It's true I don't care for men who kiss and tell...   More importantly though, if a 47yo, of sound mind and body, plays with someone who is excessively under the influence and out of control, and he wants to do it again, he has a bigger problem than the fact that she drank and beat him a little too hard, requiring fem sub to save him.

My point is that topleaseyou555 needs to know the answer to this, and if he chooses to do this again, get his head checked by a professional.    M


Amen to that...

And additionally, not sure if they shouldn't first sort out the drinking (if both are considering AA, I assume it is more than the casual drinking) before thinking about a possible relationship and engaging in activities where you need your wits about you - no matter if you are top or bottom.

Knowing somebody and playing a bit tipsy is one thing (I would assume that people avoid anything slightly risky and not venture into edge play when under the influence of anything) but 2 strangers who don't know how the other one will react, I'd say both carry quite a bit of responsibility there and you have to be quite desperate (or not too well adjusted) if you consider risking your life and health for a bit of play.

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RE: dangerous - 5/7/2009 7:26:57 PM   
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This experience may or may not have been your first. However, my very first flogging occurred years ago. It was at a fetish night and it was a heavy one. While I was excited to finally have experienced it, it left me a bit disoriented and, in particular, concerned about marks visible on my neck. Like you, I was concerned about the effects of the scene beyond the scene and was thinking about how much the domme did not do her part. I used to chat at that time and logged on upon reaching home. I was a bit freaked out and likely simply needed to vent and process the experience. I was fortunate to have been in the right place at the right time. A domme in the chat room must have had some insight about my state of mind. She sent me a private message and offered to speak by phone, and helped me process the experience. I do not consider your post to be a case of kiss and tell.

Masochism delivers pleasure and does not itself rely on sensibility and self protection. Other components of self deliver the latter two. To have enjoyed a moment and then later felt odd about it is reasonable. I think it would be constructive to take away from this experience how you might achieve a better balance between masochism and other components of self for next time.

I agree with others that one owns consequences of one's actions. However, I think what happened is a shared responsibility and some responses have given it all to you.

Whether or not to drink alcohol and play is an individual choice. I do it. Most of the time my play does not involve physical SM. Not drinking leaves your faculties more alert and better equipped to serve you.

In the domme, I see good signs and not. That she regrets what she did is a good sign. What occurred puts to question her sense of responsibility as a domme, and one cannot know how genuine or, even if genuine, how reliable her promise is. I would keep each data point in mind and see what other data points suggest. If each of you has an issue with alcohol, I do not know enough about the matter to say whether continued association would make the control more difficult, or whether it could be a shared goal for which you could offer mutual support; I would defer to those with the AA program for that answer. I do not know enough about the domme to have an informed opinion. Perhaps her behavior was more out of the ordinary than not. Perhaps it is a scenario that she is able to avoid in the future, perhaps not. Perhaps her loss of control came from alcohol, or perhaps she had fallen into topspace or God-mode (a state where the top falls into a space that an outsider's intervention is needed to stop a scene). If possible, I would let her sub know you appreciate her intervention so that she does it again with you or with anyone else if it is again needed.

I wish you well.

Cheers,

Sea

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RE: dangerous - 5/9/2009 10:36:25 AM   
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I am and was very sorry, it was an aberration, for reasons known to you.

I despise myself for they way I handled things.

IMO I feel  good Domme should
always be in control and yes I have struggled with alcoholism all My life and despite all other challenges I've faced, mistakes I've made, the only thing I'd change is that, My alcoholism.

I haven't drank since and do attend A.A. and don't give a flying fuck what any one wants to make of that.  I sincerely hope your are pleased to seen the resunts of My efforts, My sincerely and guniune concern for you as a huan being and sub.

Fuck Me I'm sad now I feel like a total asshole.

Ms. Lasair


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RE: dangerous - 5/9/2009 12:10:34 PM   
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writen by toopleaseyou555 Sophie's newest and best slave:


so please will you (the minority) sanctimonious people clean your own side of the street and stay there...................waiting, waiting, waiting

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RE: dangerous - 5/9/2009 12:23:17 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: SophiaLasair


writen by toopleaseyou555 Sophie's newest and best slave:


so please will you (the minority) sanctimonious people clean your own side of the street and stay there...................waiting, waiting, waiting


Now wait just a minute!  You come to us with a problem and we in various ways responded to that problem.  You don't know a lot of these people on these boards like some of us know one another and believe me that sanctimonious bull shit is just that.  We cannot in one or two post explain every detail of why we may hold a certain position, but we for the most part around here have a pretty high self accountable take on things.

We also care about doing harm to others.

Now if you must come here in whatever shape you were in to post or create this thread and then come back to insult because you feel someone was insulted... you are only going to set the stage for our evaluating what you are like.  You can evaluate us... go for it... but take your little kid games of... you were mean to me and walk.

Don't try to make brownie points with your dominant by using us!

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RE: dangerous - 5/9/2009 12:29:58 PM   
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ORIGINAL: SophiaLasair

I am and was very sorry, it was an aberration, for reasons known to you.

I despise myself for they way I handled things.

IMO I feel  good Domme should
always be in control and yes I have struggled with alcoholism all My life and despite all other challenges I've faced, mistakes I've made, the only thing I'd change is that, My alcoholism.

I haven't drank since and do attend A.A. and don't give a flying fuck what any one wants to make of that.  I sincerely hope your are pleased to seen the resunts of My efforts, My sincerely and guniune concern for you as a huan being and sub.

Fuck Me I'm sad now I feel like a total asshole.

Ms. Lasair



I really do wish you the very best in your situation.  It isn't easy... we all make mistakes and have our issues but seeing them and doing something about them is the difference.  You may have to look back to assure moving forward... but you are on your way from what you are saying.  Feel good about that!

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RE: dangerous - 5/9/2009 1:44:05 PM   
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If it works for you go for it!I wonder if you told Her that you felt abused and thats when she started talking about going to A.A. with you,as opposed to being charged with a crime.The fault is yours for not waiying till she was sober so just do what you do,I understand your need for feedback but be willing to accept that there are going to be things you dont want to hear!

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RE: dangerous - 5/9/2009 1:48:54 PM   
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Try a contract and have it notorized

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RE: dangerous - 5/9/2009 3:03:24 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: SophiaLasair


writen by toopleaseyou555 Sophie's newest and best slave:


so please will you (the minority) sanctimonious people clean your own side of the street and stay there...................waiting, waiting, waiting



Sure, how's that for a solution:

1. Don't come here crying for help and then complain if you get comments you don't like.

2. Take responsibility for your own life, don't play drunk or play with somebody who is drunk

3. Call an ambulance next time it happens, don't bother us

4. Post under your own name if you want to be taken remotely seriously

5. Get a grip

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RE: dangerous - 5/9/2009 3:26:37 PM   
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FR

What a sad thread.

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RE: dangerous - 5/10/2009 10:17:26 AM   
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Hey this is Sophie logged under My main accost. The drunk, remember? -_0

I just want to say shame on you, off topic, nit picky, down right rude asshats whom do nothing to ask questions or give solid advice nique ta mere! - the rest of you, you guys are alright and thanks. ^_^ Stay good.

I don't think it's sad nor inappropriate for anyone to cone here as do exactly what the board is about "asking a Mistress".

And if it bores you or whatever move right the fuck on, eh? Je m’en fou. Pfffft I raspberry you!

I am not mad topleaseyou555, I was very upset with Myself but am delighted to report I am doing great totally on top of My game in part because of your excellent submission and concern for Me., {well minus My stupid back being out}

I wish people who have nothing intelligent, a priori, or nice to say would shut their freaking cake holes. Serously grow up dicklicks.

toopleaseyou I couldn't be more happy or more impressed. After 6 years of loooking for true slaves and the hundreds of nuts and flakes I've suffered in that endeavor, it has all been worth it to find a man like you.

So, babies be nice to My boi or...else.

Ms. Lasair





























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RE: dangerous - 5/10/2009 10:22:51 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: PeonForHer

FR

What a sad thread.


In light of the previous post, "sad" doesn't even begin to cover it.

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RE: dangerous - 5/10/2009 10:27:55 AM   
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In how many different incarnations are you going to show up?

I would have suggested that you teach your submissive some manners, because his behaviour reflects badly on you, but after your last post, I guess it's not possible to teach somebody something you don't know yourself...

Btw, is it just me or does it look like this is all the same person and one gigantic hoax?

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RE: dangerous - 5/10/2009 10:51:43 AM   
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ROFL... I just think somebody fell off the wagon and everyone knows you really can't talk to someone who is drunk... I will laugh and pass....

See Ya!

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RE: dangerous - 5/10/2009 2:13:47 PM   
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I really do wish you the very best in your situation. It isn't easy... we all make mistakes and have our issues but seeing them and doing something about them is the difference. You may have to look back to assure moving forward... but you are on your way from what you are saying. Feel good about that!
quote:

ORIGINAL: Lockit

quote:

ORIGINAL: SophiaLasair

I am and was very sorry, it was an aberration, for reasons known to you.

I despise myself for they way I handled things.

IMO I feel  good Domme should
always be in control and yes I have struggled with alcoholism all My life and despite all other challenges I've faced, mistakes I've made, the only thing I'd change is that, My alcoholism.

I haven't drank since and do attend A.A. and don't give a flying fuck what any one wants to make of that.  I sincerely hope your are pleased to seen the resunts of My efforts, My sincerely and guniune concern for you as a huan being and sub.

Fuck Me I'm sad now I feel like a total asshole.

Ms. Lasair



I really do wish you the very best in your situation.  It isn't easy... we all make mistakes and have our issues but seeing them and doing something about them is the difference.  You may have to look back to assure moving forward... but you are on your way from what you are saying.  Feel good about that!


Thank You VERY much. And for your thoughtful advice to My sub as well. You're a good woman.

Ms. Lasaire

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