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ORIGINAL: popeye1250

I saw that on the News tonight.
They also said that he's SEVENTY NINE YEARS OLD!
He won't LIVE 'till the next election!
What the hell is it with those senators? Their "median age" has to be in the 70's by now!
Another good reason for term limits and *age limits!*   ***Seventy and O-U-T!***!"
Look at Bird and Kennedy, Bird is 90, in a wheelchair and slobers on himself and is senile!
Kennedy's always been senile and now he's having seizures on a regular basis and not the booze kind either.
The American People need to start putting these guys out to pasture. No-one should be in office for 20 years let alone 40!
And if Spector's constituents don't like him as a R why would they like him as a D? If he lives that long he'll probably be defeated. Let some young guy in his 50's run.
These guys are BUICK drivers, Herbert Hoover was president when they were born! Hell, Woodrow Wilson was president when Bird was born!
C'mon out there people, we need "Change" if your senator's been in office for more than two terms shitcan him/her!

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ORIGINAL: servantforuse

I'd like to f++k her but I'd have to tape her mouth shut. Thanks again. I don't know how to do links, so I might be asking for some help in the near future. The conservatives on here are few and far between...Mike  (sanity is great)

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ORIGINAL: slvemike4u

Well right there is the end of what little credibility you had Servant.....you would like to fuck Pelosi,why...why on gods green earth would any man not contractually beholden to fuck her....choose to fuck her.
I will have a hard time keeping a straight face when I think of you stchupping Madame Pelosi each and every post you make from here on in.LOL...fucking Pelosi...why?

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ORIGINAL: kittinSol

Now, we just have to wait for whatever's left of the Republicans to character assassinate Specter  . It's only a matter of minutes now.

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ORIGINAL: slvemike4u

Okay Firm,that is where we part company in my eyes a middle course is not only preferable but it is to be desired. An unfettered free market leaves too many on the outside looking in,not to mention leads to far too many abuses of the working class.While a "collectivism" tends to stifle the entrepenurial streak that makes this country great.Better a tight rope walk of balance that keeps the best of both methods uneasily co-existing.

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ORIGINAL: servantforuse

Don't worry about this swine flu. No one has died in this Country yet. They are dying in Mexico because the doctors are treating hem like leppars and not treating them...34,000 in the US die of the flu every year. This year will be no different. Remember there are 350 million people in this Country.

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ORIGINAL: popeye1250

And if Spector's constituents don't like him as a R why would they like him as a D? If he lives that long he'll probably be defeated.

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ORIGINAL: FirmhandKY

Of course there needs to be a balance. The question is, where should the balance point be?

And collectivism doesn't just stifle the "entrepreneurial streak". It stifles the very core of humanity and individual freedom.

Government is a necessary evil. Necessary - but by definition and inherent structure - evil in that it intrudes on the sovereignty of the individual.

When the the majority ... or even a large minority ... of the voters rely upon the government for the forcible transfer of funds from the other half ... then there can be nothing more than increasing demands for such support.

We are currently at about that half-way point. I suspect the current administration - before it is out of office - will see it tip over.

And you confuse "unfettered free-market" with a desire for rapacious greed. An increasing collective government turns into a much worse system, with much worst rapacious greed going on.

In fact, a strong, centralized, collective government gets in bed with the worst of companies and individuals who will always seek to use the growing power of government to increase their profits and personal power, and turn the power of government to their advantage.

So, by demonizing the free enterprise system, and encouraging the growth of government you are philosophically responsible for the growth of a much more tyrannical and unfair system.

The correct way to effectively control greed, and the worst of excess is internally, through a moral system and structure which teaches internal self-control, delayed gratification, social conscience, the dignity of the individual, and encourages private and free associational charity.

This is the only type of system which will actually achieve a stable, livable society in which the sovereignty of the individual can be respected, and in which true freedom can flourish.

The growing power of government turns this on it's head, and makes all social controls a matter of law, not personal choice, and social approval or disapproval. It is a system based on force, not freedom.

Firm

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ORIGINAL: popeye1250

I saw that on the News tonight.
They also said that he's SEVENTY NINE YEARS OLD!
He won't LIVE 'till the next election!
What the hell is it with those senators? Their "median age" has to be in the 70's by now!
Another good reason for term limits and *age limits!*   ***Seventy and O-U-T!***!"
Look at Bird and Kennedy, Bird is 90, in a wheelchair and slobers on himself and is senile!
Kennedy's always been senile and now he's having seizures on a regular basis and not the booze kind either.
The American People need to start putting these guys out to pasture. No-one should be in office for 20 years let alone 40!
And if Spector's constituents don't like him as a R why would they like him as a D? If he lives that long he'll probably be defeated. Let some young guy in his 50's run.
These guys are BUICK drivers, Herbert Hoover was president when they were born! Hell, Woodrow Wilson was president when Bird was born!
C'mon out there people, we need "Change" if your senator's been in office for more than two terms shitcan him/her!