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How to attract a sub via personals - 2/5/2006 9:52:27 AM   
AAkasha


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In one of my earlier posts I wrote about how there seem to be more femdoms using the "kneel now, bitch!" attitude, and I was wondering if those were mostly men posing as women, or pros looking for clients. I confessed that in the past I had used personal ads on sites that maybe were suggestive, aggressive -- just to at least get the subs to respond. I was looking back at some of my old personals from when I was in my early 30s, looking for partners via the net. '

I found an old personal that I wrote as a joke to prove a point. The point was that I got flooded with responses to this totally unrealistic, obviously "unstable" advertisement:

Well, all of you subs have asked and dreamed for it, and now you have it. I
am a Mistress that will control EVERY aspect of your life. You will serve
no other purpose but to AMUSE and ENTERTAIN me. Your cock and balls will be
locked up in a metal chastity device, your mouth will be filled with a big
latex dildo gag, and your ass will be in the air, exposed, ready for the
ultimate violation.

I just decided that my New Year's Resolution is to own you, control you, and
treat you like a piece of furniture.

You want humiliation? You want to be tied up and fucked lke a whore? You
want to be sold like a slut to the highest bidder?

I am the real thing. I sit typing this in a short latex skirt, thigh high
fishnets and 5 inch spiked stilletto heels. I wear corsets and catsuits,
and I take great pleasure in making my worthless slaves crawl to me to lick
the grime off the bottom of my shoes. They can only dream of ever getting
that pathetic tongue into my glorius cunt.

And when they do, they'd better be ready. Pussy training has a whole new
meaning. Thighs locked around helpless head, body rocking on strapped down
helplessness. Breathing is a gift.

I just wanted to ring in the new year with this announcement. I have
arrived. All slaves kneel to me. Kneel as you read this post, kneel and
take your pathetic throbbing cock out of your pants. Tie a red ribbon
around it for me, your new Mistress. You belong to me, as you can see from
that bulging erection in front of you.

How does it feel to finally have someone to take it all away?

All men are my slaves. All are for me to use. You are one as well, so deal
with it. You beg to worship my ass, my thighs, my glorious glistening
pussy.

You need to EARN that, slave.
I trust I have made myself crystal clear.
The Infamous Mistress Akasha


***

You wouldn't believe how many men wanted to be my slave at once! Now, let's take a look at my more down to earth ad, the one that was not a joke, which got very little response:

I'm a 30 year old female dominant living south of Los Angeles.

I am NOT looking for a boyfriend, lover, husband, or new best friend. I am
looking for a casual play partner, no strings attached type situation.

If you are single (no wife, no girlfriend) and between the ages of 18 and
32, drop me a line. Novices are fine. The nature of the play I am looking
for in this case is mostly bondage and roleplaying. Please don't write to
me if you are looking for service-oriented scenes, sexual domination,
hardcore pain (some light pain can be expected), foot worship, forced
feminization or the like. I'm looking for a pretty specific kind of
interaction. The games I'm interested in playing are power-types, more on
the sensual side than blatantly sexual, more suggestive rather than erotic.
Good things for beginners.

Please do not have agendas -- the type I am looking for is after one thing
primarily -- the sensations/emotions involved with being helpless for a
woman and knowing it pleases her. The less focussed you are on a style of
domination or specific act, the better.

I prefer artistic types, shy is ok. You don't need to be god's gift to
women, but be self confident and have good qualities that you are proud of.
If you are a bit on the thin, femme side, even better. My tastes don't
usually run toward perfect bodies, gym types, jocks, military, or
super-short hair, but I won't rule it out totally.

Good hygeine, social skills and self-awareness are very important to me.
You also need to be local -- ie, within 90 minutes or so, and able to get
together with relatively short notice.

No money involved and no sex either.

If this interests you, drop me a line. A photo would also be great. As a
courtesy to those that do fit the specifications outlined, please do not
contact me if you are not what I outlined above (ie, "I'm married, 42 and
live in New York, but will be travelling to LA for a conference and would
like to be dressed up as a maid and forced to clean your bathroom").
Regards,
Akasha

***

I got very few responses to the second ad, which I ran quite frequently. I did meet a few nice guys from it, but most of them were from married men or men from a long distance.

Does anyone have any observations regarding the theme, style of their personals and what the responses to them have been?

Akasha


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RE: How to attract a sub via personals - 2/5/2006 10:09:27 AM   
fergus


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Well,

I have responded to personals that read like the second one, I have never responded to anything that reads like the first.

fergus

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RE: How to attract a sub via personals - 2/5/2006 10:11:31 AM   
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My current profile is different because I am no longer seeking a sub, but I always displayed a pretty good balance of my BDSM interests and my vanilla interests. I emphasized that I was seeking someone who could share all aspects of life with me, not just BDSM. I have never been "flooded" with emails, and that's fine with me.

I read in a Domme's profile this morning that she had 20 pages of emails to go through, and it got me wondering how I would feel if I had anyone and everyone emailing me. I would guess that 19 out of the 20 pages were from guys that had no actual interest in what she had to offer, but simply were getting off on her pic. I don't think I would feel very special.

I once had an online acquaintance read my former profile and comment that it sounded like I was "really nice" and casual, like I was asking somone to go bowling with me. I explained to him that I presented myself as I would be most of the time. I have no need to display a "I command you to kneel before me and give yourself to me, you worthless boy" attitude, because I didn't want to give a false impression of who I am. While I enjoy fetish wear and verbal humiliation in many of my scenes, I am not like that in everyday life. Rather than feed into the fantasies of most male subs, I wanted them to know that I enjoy BDSM immensely, but I also enjoy vanilla life. I didn't need to present myself as a controlling bitch to attract the sub for me.

Be well,
Julie

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RE: How to attract a sub via personals - 2/5/2006 10:41:24 AM   
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I had a profile that I thought was reasonably friendly,made Me approachable, but was clear in My expecations and what I was seeking. I got lots of mail, mostly from wankers who wanted to convince Me that I should dominate them in such and such a way.
I changed My profile to be more stern (not "on your knees, a**hole") but seriously defining "slave", what that means, and again what My expectations entailed and very specifically outlining how I expected to be approached. I got lots of mail, mostly from wankers who wanted to convince Me that I should dominate them in such and such a way.
I now have a profile that states I am not seeking at this time and I do not chat. I get lots of mail, mostly from wankers who want to convince Me that I should dominate them in such and such a way.
Maybe it is the height, weight and photos?


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RE: How to attract a sub via personals - 2/5/2006 10:58:50 AM   
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One decision I made when putting my own profile together was to keep the BDSM comments to a minimum. I am not looking for someone who only looks at a D/s relationship in those terms and reconed that was probably the best way to discourage interest from that type of person.

Sure it is an aspect of the relationship I am looking for but not the core of it, the D/s aspect and the who they are as a person are both far more important to me. I can play with someone I don't care for, but couldn't be a master to them.

I also mentioned my disability up front. For two reasons, first and most importantly there is no way I want someone getting hit with that as a surprize part way through getting to know me. Some people simply can't deal and to not have it out there up front IMO wouldn't be fair to either of us. Also I'm not playing at this and I seriously doubt that someone who was doing so would be upfront about something like that which is so likely to get people to skip to the next profile. To the sort of person I want, it won't be a big deal and she'll be more interested in who I am anyhow.

I doubt I'll find what I'm looking for quickly, but if she (Or even they) are out there then I think what I've got profile wise will give us a good start point for talking.

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RE: How to attract a sub via personals - 2/5/2006 11:02:31 AM   
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When I put mine up, I pretty much left all BDSM comments out of it completly. Instead, I kept it extremely impersonal, stressing the fact that finding someone was not my main reason for being on here.

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RE: How to attract a sub via personals - 2/5/2006 11:36:00 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: RavenMuse

One decision I made when putting my own profile together was to keep the BDSM comments to a minimum. I am not looking for someone who only looks at a D/s relationship in those terms and reconed that was probably the best way to discourage interest from that type of person.

Sure it is an aspect of the relationship I am looking for but not the core of it, the D/s aspect and the who they are as a person are both far more important to me. can play with someone I don't care for, but couldn't be a master to them.


Very nicely said, RavenMuse. "Tis true, I can play with virtually anyone, My way, and when I want to play. To live with someone and accept 24/7 submission is another thing entirely. And therein lies the crux of the major problem in finding a slave.
We are not just looking for a body to use. We are looking for a relationship with this unusual or atypical power dynamic.
There also seems to be a big difference in how a male submissive attempts to relate to a FemDom and how a femsub relates to a Male Dom.
Societal norms still play a pretty big role, and it seems more natural and acceptable for a female to submit to a male, even with an agreement for more control or authority than is usually typical in this day and age. On the FemDom/malesub side, there are lots of offers for equality, as opposed to the "Me Man...Me in charge" mindset of the earlier to mid 20th century. So these boys are thinking they are submitting by being willing to do more around the house and also *permit* the Lady to be in control in the bedroom. Especially when things are going to get excitingly kinky. It just isn't the whole package. And I don't blame them so much as I have a tendency to resent the FemDom stereotype that was created by men in the first place. Aakasha wrote an ad depicting that stereotypical FemDom and got a huge response. Even though this was several years ago, I suspect there would be a similar response in 2006.

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RE: How to attract a sub via personals - 2/5/2006 12:02:08 PM   
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I am an artistic type!

I would have responded to the second ad. The first one is too good to be true pure fantasy.
I did Read the first ad at least 3 times though (it is a hot fantasy well written fantasy)

I am looking for a more realistic relationship with a Domme and my life in the last year has taken some turns that has me facing some things in my life and career that would affect a relationship with a dominant woman. Not necessarily in a negative way but answering an ad like the first one seems to be a waste of time and if it was a sincere Domme I maybe wasting her’s with expectations that are unrealistic.

I think fantasy has it its place its fun but I also think guys need to think with their big head more.
Even so that first ad is tempting because it’s so nicely written.
All men may not be slaves but they are horndogs

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RE: How to attract a sub via personals - 2/5/2006 12:44:46 PM   
cloudboy


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quote:

ORIGINAL: AAkasha

Now, let's take a look at my more down to earth ad, the one that was not a joke, which got very little response:

I'm a 30 year old female dominant living south of Los Angeles.

I am NOT looking for a boyfriend, lover, husband, or new best friend. I am
looking for a casual play partner, no strings attached type situation.

If you are single (no wife, no girlfriend) and between the ages of 18 and
32, drop me a line. Novices are fine. The nature of the play I am looking
for in this case is mostly bondage and role-playing. Please don't write to
me if you are looking for service-oriented scenes, sexual domination,
hardcore pain (some light pain can be expected), foot worship, forced
feminization or the like. I'm looking for a pretty specific kind of
interaction. The games I'm interested in playing are power-types, more on
the sensual side than blatantly sexual, more suggestive rather than erotic.
Good things for beginners.

Please do not have agendas -- the type I am looking for is after one thing
primarily -- the sensations/emotions involved with being helpless for a
woman and knowing it pleases her. The less focused you are on a style of
domination or specific act, the better.

I prefer artistic types, shy is ok. You don't need to be god's gift to
women, but be self confident and have good qualities that you are proud of.
If you are a bit on the thin, femme side, even better. My tastes don't
usually run toward perfect bodies, gym types, jocks, military, or
super-short hair, but I won't rule it out totally.

Good hygiene, social skills and self-awareness are very important to me.
You also need to be local -- i.e., within 90 minutes or so, and able to get
together with relatively short notice.

No money involved and no sex either.

If this interests you, drop me a line. A photo would also be great. As a
courtesy to those that do fit the specifications outlined, please do not
contact me if you are not what I outlined above (i.e., "I'm married, 42 and
live in New York, but will be traveling to LA for a conference and would
like to be dressed up as a maid and forced to clean your bathroom").

Regards,

Akasha


Well a few things strike me right off:

1. You have an age range here 18-32, so that eliminates everyone 32-50.

2. Next you want someone single. That eliminates everyone who is attached in some way.

3. No sex. That is not a turn on, that is a turn off.

4. No strings attached. Here you indicate the relationship has no future. That is a turn off in some respects. Also, no strings attached would work best with married men, but they're excluded from the equation, and it works least with single men, who are your target group.

5. Next you want an "artistic" type, which narrows your field even further.

6. The fact that you are not a pro, is a plus.

------

Your other profile has no limits or restrictions and is not expressly "no strings attached" or "no sex."

To me, the profiles actually make no difference to me one way or the other unless they indicate:

"I'm a pro," --- then I'm not interested.

"No married / age range / need specific type" -- then I may be excluded.

Otherwise, if I am looking, I will write to either one and see what sort of dialogue happens and if we share any compatibilities or interests. The profile might dictate what type of first letter I write, but no matter what, all I would be trying to do is establish a dialogue back and forth in the beginning. Many domme's, in my experience, or actually most Dommes, don't want a dialogue. I'm not sure what the they want, maybe its a "direct fit."

It is my view of life that people do not know “what they want,” and those that feel they do are limiting themselves. To me, meeting people should be an adventure, a curious trek, a learning experince, a discovery – about oneself and the other person. It should not be a market transaction of aligned ages, wants, needs, income levels, and the rest.

I like what ProtagonistLily said, about meeting her DOM, that she hated his profile, wasn’t interested in him at all after meeting, but somehow he grew on her. For her, finding her other was sort of organic and chanceful. It was a not planning, targeting, and step by step action toward a defined relationship objective.

http://www.collarchat.com/m_230009/mpage_1/key_/tm.htm#230730

See also:

http://www.collarchat.com/m_199043/mpage_1/key_/tm.htm#199043


Her experience resonated with me, and its why I think profiles are somewhat worthless beyond being an introductory primer. This puts me squarely in opposition to Padriag, who recently posted on the importance of profiles.

http://www.collarchat.com/m_249788/mpage_1/key_/tm.htm#249788






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RE: How to attract a sub via personals - 2/5/2006 12:51:19 PM   
Mysia


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Having read both of your ads, I would say the prime reason you didn't get as many responses to the second one is because it highly details what you want where the first is an all out open invite.

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RE: How to attract a sub via personals - 2/5/2006 1:13:10 PM   
pollux


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quote:

ORIGINAL: cloudboy

It is my view of life that people do not know “what they want,” and those that feel they do are limiting themselves. To me, meeting people should be an adventure, a curious trek, a learning experince, a discovery – about oneself and the other person. It should not be a market transaction of aligned ages, wants, needs, income levels, and the rest.


I agree with a lot of what you've said here.

One observation I've made over the years (that probably ought to be a separate thread, but WTH) is that men and women -- IMO -- are very different in this regard, but it totally plays against type.

What I mean is, the stereotype is that women are more driven by their feelings/emotions, etc. and that men are the thinkers/rationalists. But I believe this is -- generally -- NOT true with regard to selecting a partner. I think in that case women are incredibly rational. They think in great depth about the qualities they want in a partner -- they have checklists, and specific criteria, and they go into exquisite detail -- just as Akasha has done here.

Men, OTOH, and maybe this is evolutionary biology at work (the woman being highly selective/protective, the man wanting to enrichen the gene pool), I think tend to go more with chemistry, and will pursue whoever seems attractive to them at the moment, regardless of whether there are a million red flags screaming STOP! THIS IS WRONG IN A MILLION WAYS! I know I've certainly done that (pursued the wrong women simply because they were attractive), and I think you don't have to look far here at CollarMe to find women who are inundated with requests from men that are completely and obviously unsuitable, despite being very explicit about exactly what they want in their profiles.

It would explain a lot. And it would probably be a good idea for both sexes to move in the direction of the other -- with women maybe being a little less anal about their partner meeting all the items on their "checklists", and men maybe being a little more selective and specific and thoughtful about who they choose to pursue. I think everyone would be a lot happier.

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RE: How to attract a sub via personals - 2/5/2006 1:16:17 PM   
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I generally wouldn't even bother reading the first one. It's possible I might jump down a bit to see if it changes into something else, but really if I wanted to read a porn story then I'd go do that instead of looking at personals that try to be one.

It's not all that unreasonable to expect that most of the random people you will meet on the internet will be incredibly distant, the world is a very big place after all. I'll be honest though and say that I probably wouldn't go out of my way to say hello based on the second profile you posted for a lot of the same reasons that cloudboy gave. I'm single and not looking for someone who only wants someone that can scratch an occasional itch they might get. Being there to scratch that itch is all fine and good, but I want it as part of a relationship. The second profile doesn't specifically say if you are married/single/dating/hiding from your SO/open about it with your SO/etc. Given the casual nature of what the profile itself is asking for, I would probably suspect that it might be from someone dating/engaged/married to a vanilla person who wants someone to sneak out and scratch an itch with.

On the plus side...

I think it's good that the second profile says that a picture would be great, but isn't required. I'll be completely honest and say that I will almost always tell people who contact me that I don't feel comfortable giving out my picture to someone until I know them a little better. About half of them at that point lose interest and go away within minutes... when I occasionally get in a shrug it off and just send it to anyone who asks mood, I find that about half of them come back and say things like "u r wearing clothes in ur pic!" or something similar and ask for a naked one of me doing various things. Add to that the fact that I have some unusual interests so am hesitant to give it to random people I don't know. I'll happily answer most any other question about myself though :).

It's also good that you say up front what you are looking for in your profile.

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RE: How to attract a sub via personals - 2/5/2006 1:28:29 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: pollux

quote:

ORIGINAL: cloudboy

It is my view of life that people do not know “what they want,” and those that feel they do are limiting themselves. To me, meeting people should be an adventure, a curious trek, a learning experince, a discovery – about oneself and the other person. It should not be a market transaction of aligned ages, wants, needs, income levels, and the rest.


It would explain a lot. And it would probably be a good idea for both sexes to move in the direction of the other -- with women maybe being a little less anal about their partner meeting all the items on their "checklists", and men maybe being a little more selective and specific and thoughtful about who they choose to pursue. I think everyone would be a lot happier.



I don't think that knowing what one wants means that you can't have an adventure/learning experience/discovery when meeting people. I had a paragraph in my early CM profile that listed some things like age, smoking preference, and some general traits that I find attractive. I didn't believe that those things were limiting, but they were things that I had decided were important to me as far as compatibility. Would I automatically exclude a person who contacted me outside of my preferences? No, but there would have to have been something in our dialogues that would draw me in and hold my interest, and the feeling would have to be mutual. Did that happen often? No, and not even with people who fell within my parameters.

I enjoy meeting people and getting to know them, but I am also capable of knowing when I "click" with someone on a deeper level, and it goes way beyond a profile.

Be well,
Julie

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RE: How to attract a sub via personals - 2/5/2006 1:35:22 PM   
AAkasha


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quote:

ORIGINAL: pollux

quote:

ORIGINAL: cloudboy

It is my view of life that people do not know “what they want,” and those that feel they do are limiting themselves. To me, meeting people should be an adventure, a curious trek, a learning experince, a discovery – about oneself and the other person. It should not be a market transaction of aligned ages, wants, needs, income levels, and the rest.


I agree with a lot of what you've said here.

One observation I've made over the years (that probably ought to be a separate thread, but WTH) is that men and women -- IMO -- are very different in this regard, but it totally plays against type.

What I mean is, the stereotype is that women are more driven by their feelings/emotions, etc. and that men are the thinkers/rationalists. But I believe this is -- generally -- NOT true with regard to selecting a partner. I think in that case women are incredibly rational. They think in great depth about the qualities they want in a partner -- they have checklists, and specific criteria, and they go into exquisite detail -- just as Akasha has done here.

Men, OTOH, and maybe this is evolutionary biology at work (the woman being highly selective/protective, the man wanting to enrichen the gene pool), I think tend to go more with chemistry, and will pursue whoever seems attractive to them at the moment, regardless of whether there are a million red flags screaming STOP! THIS IS WRONG IN A MILLION WAYS! I know I've certainly done that (pursued the wrong women simply because they were attractive), and I think you don't have to look far here at CollarMe to find women who are inundated with requests from men that are completely and obviously unsuitable, despite being very explicit about exactly what they want in their profiles.

It would explain a lot. And it would probably be a good idea for both sexes to move in the direction of the other -- with women maybe being a little less anal about their partner meeting all the items on their "checklists", and men maybe being a little more selective and specific and thoughtful about who they choose to pursue. I think everyone would be a lot happier.



When posting an ad on the internet as a woman (and a femdom) you have to be prepared to open the floodgates. When I was 30 and using that ad, I was looking more for a "boytoy" than a boyfriend, per se. So a lot of the physical stuff came into play, and it's a good way to filter, and at least reduce the numbers. It also fit the "image" of the kind of guy I would want on my arm at the types of places I went -- fetishy, youthful, etc.

When it comes to falling in love or finding a soul mate, pretty much all those kinds of "criteria" go out the window. I look back at my old criteria:

I prefer artistic types, shy is ok. You don't need to be god's gift to
women, but be self confident and have good qualities that you are proud of.
If you are a bit on the thin, femme side, even better. My tastes don't
usually run toward perfect bodies, gym types, jocks, military, or
super-short hair, but I won't rule it out totally.


The man I fell for:

* does not have an artistic bone in his body; he is a numbers/financial brain type
* is not shy at all
* thin, femme? not a chance! he isn't a "pretty boy" -- he's conservative in appearance
* super short hair? It was a deal breaker back then. My man keeps his head shaved most of the time, but when he grows it out (for me) it's still incredibly short
* perfect body, gym types? that was a limit for me also. Yet the man I am spending my life with is an athlete all year round in more sports than I can keep track of.

Once there is chemistry, the person you are with morphs into your "physical ideal." I never would have given him a second look at a public party, work function, or friend's house. He would have been the type my best friend went for - the blonde Canadian "jock." Not me, I was looking for the pretty boys. I was certain I would end up with a highly creative, but career-minded type; an architect, a graphic designer, a composer, an artist.

It's a reminder I suppose that having strict criteria is not always a good thing. But I think what comes naturally is that you develop chemistry in places where you believed there might be none. The trick is to not eliminate all people who are not your PERFECT fit, instead, give it time, and see what develops.

Akasha




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RE: How to attract a sub via personals - 2/5/2006 1:41:23 PM   
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oh yeah

and of course if i told You neither one did anything for me,,You'd get mad again..

the 1st is blatantly a big joke. no real man in his right mind would take it seriously...
at least where i come from.

and the 2nd blatantly says it is all about the young boys,,,not a seasoned full grown man..

so they are both immediately ruled out in MY book..

now
did that help or just make Ya madder?


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RE: How to attract a sub via personals - 2/5/2006 2:01:52 PM   
cloudboy


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ORIGINAL: LadyJulieAnn


I don't think that knowing what one wants means that you can't have an adventure/learning experience/discovery when meeting people.
Julie



No, it just means you can't have "an adventure/learning experience/discovery" with people "you don't want," who may, ironically, offer the real love & connection that gets you off. Knowing "what I want" is a form of blindness to everything outside of that pre set field of vision.

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RE: How to attract a sub via personals - 2/5/2006 2:03:38 PM   
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ORIGINAL: veronicaofML

now did that help or just make Ya madder?


Who could get mad at MR BUBBLES?

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RE: How to attract a sub via personals - 2/5/2006 2:06:16 PM   
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I was certain I would end up with a highly creative, but career-minded type; an architect, a graphic designer, a composer, an artist.


do you Have a dominant sister?

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RE: How to attract a sub via personals - 2/5/2006 2:20:19 PM   
mantis65


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A lot of Dommes want the younger boytoy types. I do hate being considered old at 40 by 35 year old Dommes that want a 20 something.
Who I am to judge I loved younger woman when I played the field and sowed my wild oats but now I would love stability and maturity more than a cute sex toy. (now)
The artistic types that Akasha was looking for never grew up we can’t afford to or the well of creative energy dries up. As a writer she knows that.
Lets not judge her chemistry is never predicted it just happens

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RE: How to attract a sub via personals - 2/5/2006 2:23:56 PM   
mantis65


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Mr. Bubbles is sudsy fun! Now Mr. yuck is the dark shadow that lurks under
My sink. He makes me fear the power of Lysol
That evil evil bastard

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