tazzygirl
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the first... law is legislated.. and heavily influenced by religious groups.. like it or not, just how it is.
That kind of puts a damper on the whole debate thing, doesn't it? Follow along like sheep because that's how it is? To that I say.. baaaaa.
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those in power now are not about to give up their "religious beliefs" when they have most of the power and the money. the gay marriage group offers them nothing in compensation... yeah.. politics suck. and, until DOMA is repealled, no state has to recognize the same sex marriage of any other state. somewhere along the line, i also pointed out that the Native American Tribes would love to grant same sex marriages... but.. in doing so.. they risk losing federal monies... and again... no state has to recognize the tribes legalizing the marriage...even the one the tribe is located in.
DOMA is in violation of Constitutional law and efforts against DOMA have been tireless. There is a current case pending and I'm optimistic. That said, I was optimistic that Prop 8 would go down in defeat as well, so I'm also a realist and know the fight is far from over.. not to fight at all though, that would be truly sad. That said, two steps forward, one step back is still a net gain on the side of progress.
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my second point was echoed by LP. are they fighting over the right to call it a marriage, or, over the rights afforded to them BY the marriage?
I'm bi. I want both! 
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what is more important? because, as much as i hate to say it, the latter wont happen anytime soon. better to fight for what you can get... ie: insurance, joint ownership of property, ect... the more it LOOKS like a marriage, the less they can so no its not.
The latter is already happening. I understand what you're saying though and even those who approve of gay marriage don't all agree on the subject. I'm willing to lose a few battles to win the war though, so I will keep doing what I've done my entire adult life, stump, stuff envelopes, make phone calls, write letters and vote for the opportunity for equal treatment under the law. Short of running for an office to which I would never get elected (cuz of that whole freak, being an out perv thing plus living in Europe) that's about the best I can do other than try to educate with reason, logic and factual citations.
Sometimes the effort is thwarted, but I do try to fight the good fight.
i so never said not to continue the fight... but pick and choose your battles at this point. its a long, hard battle. many groups have battled such before gays. it doesnt matter to me if gays call it marriage... to me.. a marriage is a union between two people. two men.. or two women.. fit that bill. but to rant and rave, speak of picking up arms to get your way, to attack the very people who ultimately hold the ability to stop what you want from becoming a reality... all self defeating actions. just because something is what it is doesnt always make it right. just makes it harder to overcome.
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