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RE: Financial Domination Fetish - 6/10/2009 3:44:57 PM

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Princess Sierra is the top of the food chain in financial domination. If her claims are true, she is pulling down undreds of thousands in money and gifts each year. She brags about making men go bankrupt, being evicted, and completely ruining themselves for her.

The starving man dreams not of a dry crust of bread, but of a sumptuous feast set on a great table that groans beneath its weight. Likewise, the fetishist's fantasies are more commonly based in exaggeration than in reality. Desmond Morris labeled the concept as "stimulus vs super-stimulus". It seems to be hardwired in the organism to respond to "super-stimulus", as illustrated by the paradox of the seagulls.

Nestling seagulls are hardwird to peck at a red spot which is present on the beaks of adults, which in turn stimulates them to regurgitate food. But when given a choice between the actual parent (or a realistic model) and a giant red circle, they invariably choose the circle. They can actually starve to death in this manner, pursuing the "super red spot" that is entirely false and exaggerated to the point of bearing no resemblance to reality and delivering no reward.

I imagine some remarks about men, female chest endowment and plastic surgery should be forthcoming, but I'll settle for discussing the seagulls.

The likelihood of Sierra's claims being true are small indeed. Applying Occam's Razor to the claims produces the obvious answer, which is that she is "super-stimulating" the financial domination fetishists' wet dreams in the standard manner.

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RE: Financial Domination Fetish - 6/13/2009 10:37:17 PM

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You sound like you're afraid of a little competition there. Believe it or not, the men who use NF are all different kinds of men seeking all different kinds of women. There's room for everyone.

Why should blushes remove her listing? She's providing a service. She doesn't have to be a "true domme" in order to do so. Do you demand that your mail be delivered by a "true mailman"? Yes, that example sounds ridiculous because your comments sounded pretty ridiculous.

The fact is, Niteflirt attracts all kinds of people for all kinds of different reasons. Some women are going to be better at providing what their clients are looking for than others. Some men are going to prefer certain Flirts over others for various reasons.

And while I'm at it; it isn't just men who use that site. I have several female clients as well.

Seriously, you call yourself a "real take charge domme who knows what the hell she's doing" but honestly, you come across as being more than just a little bit insecure. Who are you to order someone else about? (Someone who hasn't submitted to you, of course.) Maybe you could practice a little more respect for those around you. blushes asked for advice, not orders.

"Be yourself!", you demand.

What if this is just another part of herself? When I took my first call, I was scared to death. I had no idea what I was going to say. I thought of myself as a submissive woman and really had no desire to dominate men whatsoever. I chose the fem dommes section of Niteflirt because no other section seemed to fit what I was offering. I didn't want to be submissive to whatever random guy might choose to call me. I didn't want to sit there and pretend to be some desperately horny slut either. I wanted to hypnotize people to fall in love with me. I chose the heading that best fit my services.

In the past year I have discovered so many things about myself. I'm not nearly as submissive as I once believed myself to be. I don't consider myself to be a dominant woman either. At least not in the sense that I have any real desire to seek out a personal relationship with a submissive individual.

That said, I love my clients. I love spending time with them and no, it isn't just because they are paying me by the minute. If I seriously just sat here thinking about the money, no one would ever want to call me. They call me because I *am* real and genuine and kind. I enjoy myself and because of that, they enjoy themselves more too. I don't think you have to have any special pedigree to be an enjoyable human being.

Also, Temperance .........

I am a 20-something but I'm not an idiot. (Since when is there an age-limit on when someone becomes serious?) The financial domination you are speaking about and the financial domination that men seek out on Niteflirt are two extremely different things.

The fact is, the only reason I even make "financial domination" mp3s is because I get flooded with emails from men who are begging me to cater to their fantasy of being completely taken advantage of by a young woman. I think I would be an idiot if I didn't try to give them what they obviously seem to want. Though I try to be careful not to actually ruin anyone's life.

I've never had anyone approach me asking me to control his wallet in the manner in which you describe. Then again, I'm not seeking a personal relationship so chances are, I'm not going to meet those particular people.

In general, I think people need to make the distinction between those who are seeking a relationship and those who want fantasy fullfillment. Neither one is better than the other, in my opinion. Different people have different needs. I don't cater to anyone seeking a personal relationship because thats just not something I can offer. I do, however, cater and provide a service to those who want to have their fantasies brought to life. Sounds to me like blushes is just trying to do the same thing.

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RE: Financial Domination Fetish - 6/13/2009 10:38:39 PM

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ORIGINAL: PeonForHer

Sweet J, HP. I've never seen a post on CM that so much makes me think of that old phrase, "feminine wiles".

Thank you for alerting the men here to some of the tricks . . . .

Judging from your pic, Peon, you're not above using a few of your own wiles. ;)

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RE: Financial Domination Fetish - 6/13/2009 11:02:12 PM

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There is a reason why people who do phone sex are called "Actors". The truth is, it's so dang hard to get any action on NiteFlirt, and with the economy down, it's even harder than it used to be - more actors and fewer patrons. Any person can be anything on NiteFlirt. More power to anyone who can do well at it, no matter how they do it. It's a fantasy realm.

Creating an Amazon wishlist is easy and you can hide your shipping address - just create an Amazon account that is new and only associated with your ficticious name. You can also offer to sell the guy e-mails and pics through NF. Since he's into FD, the e-mail content can really just remind him what a money-pig he is to you. Good luck to you.

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RE: Financial Domination Fetish - 6/14/2009 2:11:40 AM

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HypnoticPrincess, have you considered writing a book? Not joking. It would sell.

It is great to see you posting. You totally rock.

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RE: Financial Domination Fetish - 6/14/2009 4:43:46 AM

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"I thought of myself as a submissive woman and really had no desire to dominate men whatsoever. I chose the fem dommes section of Niteflirt because no other section seemed to fit what I was offering."

Well there you go ! Another example of poor judegement.

If insecurity is what you read from My post then you best look within yourself and try to understand what it is that brought this emotion to surface. I obviously touched a nerve which is indication that insecurity is what you identify with.
Identification and recognition are two ways of attaching meaning to percepts.

On another level you perceived My response as challenging...why? ...perhaps you view Me as competition because of the common interest of Hypno Thearpy.

I also find it amusingly disturbing that you perceive Constructive Criticism as a direct Order and that you completely overlooked My Compliment given to the original poster.

But then to one that is desperately seeking love to the point of having to hypnotize someone for it, it's easily understood why you perceived My response as threatening.

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RE: Financial Domination Fetish - 6/14/2009 5:18:18 AM

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ORIGINAL: MadamnX
Well there you go ! Another example of poor judegement.

Self-discovery is not the same as poor judgement. And... being rude is not the same as being dominant, either.

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RE: Financial Domination Fetish - 6/14/2009 5:35:05 AM

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Well said Red.

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My twisted, self deprecating, sense of humour, finds alot to laugh about, in your lack of one!

Just because you are well educated, articulate, and can use big, fancy words, properly........does not mean you are right!

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RE: Financial Domination Fetish - 6/14/2009 11:28:05 AM

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ORIGINAL: RedMagic1
Self-discovery is not the same as poor judgement. And... being rude is not the same as being dominant, either.

Behold, my hero for the next 15 minutes.

Write the book, HypnoticPrincess. I'd buy it. Human psychology fascinates me.

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RE: Financial Domination Fetish - 6/14/2009 11:42:24 AM

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ORIGINAL: SylvereApLeanan
Write the book, HypnoticPrincess. I'd buy it.

Yay!

I suppose people might have figured out that HypnoticPrincess is the friend I was talking about at the beginning of the thread. I knew her when..... I knew her when she wasn't a hypnotic princess! Watching her get better and better at an art form she is creating herself is just a joy. When she says she really cares about her clients, she's telling the truth. Also: she's 14 years younger than I am, makes way more money than I do, and gets paid to make people happy. OMG that's hot hot hotttt.

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RE: Financial Domination Fetish - 6/14/2009 1:41:25 PM

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Financial domination isn't really my forte, but I find it fascinating nonetheless. If I ever did get into it just for fun, I wouldn't want to do the I AM UBERDOMME HEAR ME BITCH thing. It's nice to know there are real women out there doing what they love and doing it with love or at least genuine caring. Now that is hot.

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RE: Financial Domination Fetish - 6/14/2009 2:56:48 PM

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I've sent you an email, HypnoticPrincess. I love your posts and I want to make friends. ;) You'll read why.

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RE: Financial Domination Fetish - 6/15/2009 9:39:30 PM

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We were all 20 something once. I wish I knew then what I know now I would have been rocking my ample assets to My advantage and would have gotten into Pro Domination LONG before 10 years ago. I was naturally dominant BUT that part of Me had to grow and be cultivated over time. I knew I was dominant at 20 something but I was not as regal and selfassured as I am now.

NF is legit but it like any other online service has it's share of wankers and time wasters. That being said, I do NOT begrudge anyone making a living. I am a Pro Domme and damn good at what I do. I am NOT threatened by a 20 something nor a 60 something year old. They are both offering a service and there is a market for everything. What a caller/sub gets from Me he may not get from them and vice versa.

That being said more younger people are getting into the sex trade period. When I was 21 the best I got was some porno flicks, not in them watching them but nothing hardcore. As things become more accessible (via the internet) and mainstream more people become interested in it and learn that it can be lucrative to them. You have 15 year girls now learning how to pole dance and practicing in high school because their goal is to dance in a strip club when they become 18. After 3 years of practicing they will be damn good at it. When I was 15 that would have been unheard of and the last thing on my mind.

My point being, as an older Domme it is difficult for Me to view someone in their 20s having the experience to truly be a Domina because I am thinking about my life in my 20s. That is not necessarily true today because of the exposure to various things.

If whatever you are doing is working for you, keep doing it and keep improving on it.

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RE: Financial Domination Fetish - 6/16/2009 5:17:23 AM

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"Self-discovery is not the same as poor judgement. And... being rude is not the same as being dominant, either. "

Self discovery is a journey of Personal Development, Improvement & Self Regulation - Self development is the cultivation of one's potential - Not to be confused with a temporary change in one's behavior to fit the circumstance.

My obeservation is not the concern here. - It's your interpretation of My obervation that needs studying.

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RE: Financial Domination Fetish - 6/16/2009 5:20:26 AM

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ORIGINAL: MadamnX
It's your interpretation of My obervation that needs studying.

Yes. You would do well to study why so many people found your comments inappropriate. If you examine that while setting your ego aside, you will become a better communicator.

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RE: Financial Domination Fetish - 6/16/2009 6:56:00 AM

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Tsk, tsk. Oh Red...don't you realize that any interpretation of her "observation" that applies logic and eliminates the overweening arrogance from her assessment of someone she knows next to nothing about, yet who is more articulate and self-aware at a much younger age than she, is the wrong interpretation. Silly man.

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RE: Financial Domination Fetish - 6/17/2009 9:27:38 AM

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I think you are misusing the word "fetish" here.

Female domination and financial domination are not fetishes.

A fetish is: • a form of sexual desire in which gratification is linked to an abnormal degree to a particular object, item of clothing, part of the body, etc.

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RE: Financial Domination Fetish - 6/17/2009 9:58:06 AM

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I think that we are ALL misusing the official definition(s) of fetish in favour of the common understanding, Cloudboy.

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RE: Financial Domination Fetish - 6/17/2009 10:39:48 AM

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Noun: fetish
1. A form of sexual desire in which gratification depends to an abnormal degree on some object or item of clothing or part of the body
2. A charm superstitiously believed to embody magical powers
3. Excessive or irrational devotion to some activity
[WordWeb]

Hmm. We're not using it any of those ways, really. Not that we need to, though.

I should take this opportunity to say what a great little application WordWeb is.

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RE: Financial Domination Fetish - 6/19/2009 11:56:43 AM

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I'm glad you mentioned ego as your ego is completely opposed to knowing what the truth of a matter is.
your reply dodges the initial question posted by xxblushesxx and is tangentially (if at all) related to
original point.
My post was well-intentioned criticism.
I spoke the truth. Truth is beyond social acceptance.
A decay of Truth begins when people hear the truth and are offended instead of Embracing it to Change.

Thus, if you really want to point the finger at someone who does not engage in serious critical thinking, then
go to the nearest mirror and point it at yourself (rather than trying to point the finger at the truth or better yet - "how"
the truth was said.

The truth is the truth, and is not necessarily politically correct or socially acceptable.
As a matter of fact, the truth is by no means politically correct or socially acceptable. So, if you came here looking for some conversation material or water-cooler material, then you came to the wrong website. The truth is greater than man, so it will not bow down to your social needs, personal needs,or insecurities. And, your feeble-minded reasoning does not and cannot negate that which actually exists.
It is proof of a base and low mind for one to wish to think with the masses or majority, merely because the majority is the
majority.
Truth does not change because it is, or is not, believed by a majority of the people.

When we tell the truth, even carefully with sensitivity, and in love, there is always a great risk of triggering
a defensive response, one of self-perseveration or more accurately, Perseveration of the Self-deception.
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Perhaps more importantly, people need to carefully consider which questions they ask and how they ask them. They
put others on the spot with Subjective questions while claiming to want an Objective answer.

People lie to themselves about their reality and then look to others to confirm their own self deception.

Pretending to be a Domme when infact they are a sub and at the expense of others is wrong it's a completely
manufactured indentity which inturn they feel no compunction to tell the truth because they feel distanced from
the harm they cause.
"These people are frequently very narcissistic, when people feel they are entitled to reshape reality to meet their own needs. They are practicing self-deception and do not want to be disturbed in their Fantasy.

For us to not acknowledge the lie makes us an enabler of their self-deception - in the same way that we can
enable alcoholics or drug abusers. The fact that others choose to lie to themselves and others does not require that
I participate in their deception.

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