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RE: Reactions to Hostel - 2/22/2006 12:11:32 PM

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They all sound like movies I would want to go see.

I agree with LA about the sadism aspect. It is one things that keep me from doing many of the things I would want to in a scene, or push a scene longer, because I know how far my desires for creulty extend and I refuse to hurt my friends. As of now my sadism is on a very short leash.

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RE: Reactions to Hostel - 3/11/2006 5:31:46 AM

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Hmmm. this has been very interesting reading.

Hi, all. I am a newbie here, mostly because I am not really in the lifestyle. I am producing and directing a film which involves torture and murder, and as I want this film to have the ring of truth, I am looking for real people (non-actors) who would enjoy being in a film depicting sadism.

From some of the posts I've read here I get the feeling I may be barking up the wrong tree, and I completely understand the reluctance of some people to supporting a film which may stimulate those who might want to inflict pain on the unwilling. However, I want to create a truly chilling experience, not one that only appeals to those seeking depictions of mutilation and though there will be forced sex and violence it will not be gratuitous in the sense that it is there to advance the story, not to exist as a sidebar to stimulate lustful desire.

Any thoughts? Thanks in advance for any comments

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RE: Reactions to Hostel - 3/11/2006 7:09:56 AM

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sophia belle very "provacative" reply.

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RE: Reactions to Hostel - 3/11/2006 5:33:18 PM

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the first 1/2 was boobs and butts the second 1/2 was blood and gore

but the plot itself was good actually

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Sorry, I meant the "medicalfetishtoys" link doesn't work.

BTW, Hostel sounds like a crap film. Are you recommending it of your own, or is this merely guerrilla marketing? I can't see how a film of this description could be made and actually pass a ratings board if it should anything worth watching. I assume the film has long sequences of tedium with occasional shock/horror thrills. The previews I saw looked like the film has some amputation sequences, and maybe a head drilling one also. That makes this the penultimate sleazy horror film of its genre, and that list is mighty long...

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RE: Reactions to Hostel - 3/11/2006 7:24:42 PM

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I myself despise Tarantino with a passion (I feel he simply likes shock factor and is a director/writer attention whore) and thus had no qualms saying 'no' to this movie.

YAY! Finally someone else who can't stand that guy.

No interest in seeing Hostel. At all.

Seven was highly recommended to me. i think the recommender's ears are STILL bleeding from my reaction to seeing it.

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RE: Reactions to Hostel - 3/11/2006 7:57:45 PM

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while I haven't seen 'Hostel' I saw what, I believe is a similar film called 'Wolf Creek', about 3 young people in outback Australia who have a similar experience to those in 'Hostel'. While I don't have a problem and in fact quite enjoy movies like 'Scream', I have found that the ones based on true events disturb me. This is simply because it shows that there are some truely disturbed people out there that I never want to come across.

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RE: Reactions to Hostel - 3/12/2006 5:24:28 PM

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I slipped into it after seeing another movie (yay for the multi-plex!), after five minutes I had started to cry and threw up. Not a good experience, but the same one that I had in both of the Kill Bill films so I should have been prepared

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RE: Reactions to Hostel - 5/14/2006 1:20:38 PM

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i came away from this movie feeling disturbed and turned on...go figure..

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RE: Reactions to Hostel - 5/14/2006 1:23:45 PM

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yah..tarentino is not your average cup of joe for sure

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RE: Reactions to Hostel - 5/14/2006 1:48:39 PM

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Phoenix and I bought it the day it came out.

Now our daughter loves scary movies, however; I was glad that we screened this before I let her sit and watch it with us. After watching it I decided it is NOT a movie I want her watching.

*laughs*

This was definately not your average thriller / horror movie.

It is now up there as one of my favorites.

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RE: Reactions to Hostel - 5/14/2006 2:29:37 PM

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It's interesting it is set in Bosnia. In the early 90's, I recall hearing about a group that was running "hunting trips" to Sarajevo where for a significant fee, a person could be set up in a room in the Unis building in the BSA controlled sector and allowed to shoot anyone they saw in the Moslem areas.

I don't recall anything about torture for hire, but given this little factoid, I wouldn't be surprised that once the active fighting had ended people might have sought other employment.

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RE: Reactions to Hostel - 5/14/2006 2:51:57 PM

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I enjoyed every minute of that movie in a creepy sort of sadistic way. I know that my fantasies tend to slip off the deep end, and will wind up confined to the realm of fiction and art, something that has made me wary of what I could do. It was definately a good movie for me, and I have to admit, it was the depiction of sadism that was the sole reason for me to see it, and there is a part of me that wishes they had shown more. Otherwise I would have been like "meh" cause I'm not really a fan of horror flicks.

............Spoilers..................
However, the scene with the chainsaw made me laugh my ass off, and those sadists were some of the most loony people I've ever seen portrayed. And vandalous children? Laughable. Some parts had me wondering if it was supposed to be a serious horror flick or a comedy.

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RE: Reactions to Hostel - 5/14/2006 9:33:06 PM

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I loved the gang of children.
Think about it if you have nothing what will you covette as a child?
The simple things.

One of my favorite parts had to be the oozing eye!

*laughs*

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RE: Reactions to Hostel - 5/14/2006 11:15:08 PM

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I enjoyed every minute of that movie in a creepy sort of sadistic way. I know that my fantasies tend to slip off the deep end, and will wind up confined to the realm of fiction and art, something that has made me wary of what I could do. It was definately a good movie for me, and I have to admit, it was the depiction of sadism that was the sole reason for me to see it, and there is a part of me that wishes they had shown more. Otherwise I would have been like "meh" cause I'm not really a fan of horror flicks.

............Spoilers..................
However, the scene with the chainsaw made me laugh my ass off, and those sadists were some of the most loony people I've ever seen portrayed. And vandalous children? Laughable. Some parts had me wondering if it was supposed to be a serious horror flick or a comedy.

http://university.imdb.com/title/tt0450278/trivia
Eli Roth hired real street kids to play the Bubble Gum Gang. I guess they have some mean little street urchins over there.

the kids were actualy pretty scary
the Japanese man that warns the kid to becareful...he could spend all his money in there is Takashi Miike the Dierctor of Audition.

Eli Roth movies all seem
Black comedies but if you don’t find really sick and over the top disturbing situations funny a movie like this will be like a trip to the dentist.
I liked it as a horror comedy. My friends that saw it with me got upset a few times .

Movies like this can be taken the wrong way by some people. The follow up movie to Seven was 8mm which seems to really upset people. Again I thought moments in that movie were sick humor also. While seven was more straight horror 8mm had goofy chracters like Dino Velvet that seem to right out of a John Waters movie.

Devils Rejects had funny moments also but unlike house of a 1000 corpses it had believable situations that made the horror very shocking.

Anyway Hostel was good I thought but its not for people used horror movies like nightmare on elm street.

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RE: Reactions to Hostel - 5/15/2006 6:13:12 AM

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However, the scene with the chainsaw made me laugh my ass off,

A lot of people in the theater we saw it in also laughed at the beginning- I think it's because it was a way for them to deal with the horror of it- it wasn't really "real" to the audience yet.

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and those sadists were some of the most loony people I've ever seen portrayed.

I think they were acting just like people I've seen who needed to get their next fix.

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And vandalous children? Laughable.

Ummm ok, remind me to take you to see my old neighborhood.

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RE: Reactions to Hostel - 5/15/2006 6:16:10 AM

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It's interesting it is set in Bosnia.

Slovakia actually.

And yes I thought that the choice was very good as we could easily see just how this sort of thing could happen in that sort of environment.

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RE: Reactions to Hostel - 5/15/2006 6:44:14 AM

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What did the movie do, if anything at all, to the reputation of domination and fetish? Although considered unacceptable by most, is this form of extreme fetish at the very least understandable? Do you think shedding light on such practices might encourage others to follow in-step?

I don't think that linking aspects of BDSM with psychotic murderers is going to bring any positive enlightenment to society at large or further the reputations of kinky folks.

Of course I can understand this kind of extreme fetish......but yes, I do consider it unacceptable. But as LA said, this lifestyle is not always "fluffy" and there are indeed some folks out there who are seriously sadistic. Granted, most don't take it as far as killing..but do people like that exist? Sure they do.

I'm not sure what you are asking about "following in step". Are you asking if we think that it will encourage more people to make movies such as this, or more people to enter the world of BDSM or more people will become sadistic killers?

If it is the first.......well, maybe not exactly like this, but Quentin Tarantino does always seem to raise the bar. Of course, the next movies are going to have to outdo and outshock. I don't necessarily see where there will necessarily be more BDSM themes though.

If it is the second....if I was a newbie or just someone who had a few dark fantasies and saw this movie....this would NOT make me want to dive right into the dark waters. I think it was too far over the top for most people, even kinksters, to see it from any perspective but gory Hollywood horror film.

If it was the third...I can't really answer but I would certainly hope not. I don't really understand the mind of someone who kills for the joy of killing....but I would think that those who are that serious and are capable of taking things that far, will do so regardless of the movie Hostel. If anything, I think it will give those already inclined some bad ideas, and I can foresee some psycho in the future with a blow torch.

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RE: Reactions to Hostel - 5/15/2006 8:10:32 PM

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::crossing that one off my list of movies to see::

It's actually an excellent movie. It's not very gory. It leaves it mostly to your imagination. It has a great plot and is very well done.

Edited to add: I'm talking about Seven, not Hostel.

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RE: Reactions to Hostel - 5/16/2006 12:50:37 AM

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It only played here (Australia) in the cinemas for a short time, which isn't suprising because there was nobody but me there watching it.. literally.

I have to admit though, I'm one of those very disturbed people who enjoyed it on a sexual level - (alone in the cinema with my hand inside my jeans.. lol).. Not because I'm a sadist, or because I'm a fatalist craving death or mutilation or extreme pain or any of those things.. but the very notion that 'Elite Hunting' sells to it's patrons. .. The thrill of it. The fear of it..The totality and implaccable, immovable force that is the person doing the torturing.
As has been mentioned, 'Hostel' is set apart from other horror movies.. and it's really not about the portrayal of gore..(that's just a bonus).. Most horror movies play off the fear of the unknown, of what might be.. titilation and suspense. But Hostel plays on the very real knowledge that human beings ARE that dark.. You just know, that someone, somewhere, is doing this.
Hence the negative reaction from many people, I believe. Unwilling to face that thought? I don't know.

It's also one of the reasons that I giggle when I hear someone say that they have no limits... Oh yeah?

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RE: Reactions to Hostel - 5/16/2006 10:08:48 AM

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you know..the most disturbing thing to me are the people who think Hostle is really pure fiction..we go about our lives here in the US of A
most of us unaware what an empty larder or hungry children will make some people do..(and no i dont condone anything done in the movie,i never kick dogs or kids,and i even open doors for people)
i love Tarantino

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