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subrob1967 -> Israel says screw you US (6/4/2009 1:45:53 PM)

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Jerusalem — Secretary of State Hillary Clinton has issued an unprecedented statement clarifying President Barack Obama’s demands for Israel to stop expanding Jewish communities in areas it acquired following the 1967 Six-Day War, including Jerusalem.

Israeli Government Press Director Daniel Seamen reacted to this Obama administration statement by saying: “I have to admire the residents of Iroquois territory for assuming that they have a right to determine where Jews should live in Jerusalem.”

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Break out the popcorn, this is going to get good.





Termyn8or -> RE: Israel says screw you US (6/5/2009 8:37:08 AM)

Popcorn ? Hell I am going to make a huge vat of chicken paprikash. I'll even make some matzo dumplings for certain members.

T




kittinSol -> RE: Israel says screw you US (6/5/2009 8:42:28 AM)

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MarsBonfire -> RE: Israel says screw you US (6/5/2009 11:40:01 AM)

"Good" meaning the suffering and death of possible thousands...




popeye1250 -> RE: Israel says screw you US (6/5/2009 1:03:11 PM)

They must have gotten their check for this year's foreign aid already.
Wait till next year right before "check time"; "Gee Secretary Clinton, you sure do look nice for a *50* year old woman!"
"What, 62?! "Get out of here!"




Arpig -> RE: Israel says screw you US (6/5/2009 1:16:26 PM)

Popeye, sometimes you crack me up[:D][:D][:D]




MissSepphora1 -> RE: Israel says screw you US (6/5/2009 7:02:04 PM)

That's almost as funny as the pig joke.




subrob1967 -> RE: Israel says screw you US (6/6/2009 9:23:07 AM)

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ORIGINAL: MarsBonfire

"Good" meaning the suffering and death of possible thousands...


Good meaning Obama, this is our country, and we'll run it the way we want, butt the fuck out...






subrob1967 -> RE: Israel says screw you US (6/6/2009 9:24:21 AM)

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ORIGINAL: popeye1250

They must have gotten their check for this year's foreign aid already.
Wait till next year right before "check time"; "Gee Secretary Clinton, you sure do look nice for a *50* year old woman!"
"What, 62?! "Get out of here!"


Cmon Popeye, you know Congress will never cut Israel off, Israel owns too many Congress Critters.




JonnieBoy -> RE: Israel says screw you US (6/6/2009 9:38:52 AM)

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ORIGINAL: subrob1967

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ORIGINAL: popeye1250

They must have gotten their check for this year's foreign aid already.
Wait till next year right before "check time"; "Gee Secretary Clinton, you sure do look nice for a *50* year old woman!"
"What, 62?! "Get out of here!"


Cmon Popeye, you know Congress will never cut Israel off, Israel owns too many Congress Critters.



(Put a right smile on my face that did Popeye)

I suspect the question of what and or who Israel owns is not far away from a lot more scrutiny than it is used to.

They haven't exactly told the US "screw you" but it would be a fuck sight better fun by now if they had, look what happened to the last statesman (?? ) that did. At least all this boring shite about economic crises infesting the news would go away for awhile.

Pirate




Lorr47 -> RE: Israel says screw you US (6/7/2009 6:06:21 PM)

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ORIGINAL: subrob1967

quote:

ORIGINAL: popeye1250

They must have gotten their check for this year's foreign aid already.
Wait till next year right before "check time"; "Gee Secretary Clinton, you sure do look nice for a *50* year old woman!"
"What, 62?! "Get out of here!"


Cmon Popeye, you know Congress will never cut Israel off, Israel owns too many Congress Critters.



I cannot get into an argument lately without someone jumping to my "most unfavorite" topic; religion.  I told a truck driver about Israel's response.  He said that we cannot abandon Israel.  I asked why.  He answered that our backing of Israel is the reason the US will survive and then quoted the bible chapter and verse.  He was adamant that as long as we back Israel god will protect the US and that god has so promised. A good ole southern boy from Arkansas who I cannot argue with since he resorts to the bible.




viewingthesite11 -> RE: Israel says screw you US (6/7/2009 6:27:42 PM)

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ORIGINAL: subrob1967



Cmon Popeye, you know Congress will never cut Israel off, Israel owns too many Congress Critters.



I suppose you are one of those folks that believe the Jews run all of the world. You probably also believe the Jews cause all of our problems and run every economy in the world. In fact, I am a Jew, when I get done with work; I like to swim in my trillions of dollars that I keep in my trillion square foot house that I *STOLE*. Oh yeah, I almost forgot, I also think of ways to make your life a living hell. If you trip and fall on ice; I tripped you. It was all me! And, I won't apologize for it. [:'(]




LookieNoNookie -> RE: Israel says screw you US (6/7/2009 6:33:49 PM)

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ORIGINAL: popeye1250

They must have gotten their check for this year's foreign aid already.
Wait till next year right before "check time"; "Gee Secretary Clinton, you sure do look nice for a *50* year old woman!"
"What, 62?! "Get out of here!"


ROFLMFFAO!!!!!




LookieNoNookie -> RE: Israel says screw you US (6/7/2009 6:35:43 PM)

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ORIGINAL: viewingthesite11

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ORIGINAL: subrob1967



Cmon Popeye, you know Congress will never cut Israel off, Israel owns too many Congress Critters.



I suppose you are one of those folks that believe the Jews run all of the world. You probably also believe the Jews cause all of our problems and run every economy in the world. In fact, I am a Jew, when I get done with work; I like to swim in my trillions of dollars that I keep in my trillion square foot house that I *STOLE*. Oh yeah, I almost forgot, I also think of ways to make your life a living hell. If you trip and fall on ice; I tripped you. It was all me! And, I won't apologize for it. [:'(]


Okay....I for one never actually believed all those rumors....but if you say so....then I guess we can finally lay all those debates to rest.




viewingthesite11 -> RE: Israel says screw you US (6/7/2009 6:46:26 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Lorr47



I cannot get into an argument lately without someone jumping to my "most unfavorite" topic; religion.  I told a truck driver about Israel's response.  He said that we cannot abandon Israel.  I asked why.  He answered that our backing of Israel is the reason the US will survive and then quoted the bible chapter and verse.  He was adamant that as long as we back Israel god will protect the US and that god has so promised. A good ole southern boy from Arkansas who I cannot argue with since he resorts to the bible.



I don't know if what this man said is true or not. However, if we do abandon Israel, we would have very little influence in the middle east considering that they are essentially our only real true ally in that part of the world. Also, Israel helps balance out the power through out that part of Asia. If Israel falls, Iran will become way more powerful and will have hell of a lot more influence than they ever did. If you don't believe me, look at what the fall of Iraq did to Iran: made Iran stronger. Lastly, if you were to take that Arkansa boy, and time him by 150 plus million, you will get the number of people that believe what this guy believes. So, in short, it would create a political uproar in an already deteriorating political system.

Israel at the minimum, is a very important strategical ally to hold on to. They do keep countries like Jordan and Iran at bay, to some extent. They help spread American influence throughout the middle east. And, most importantly, they give us a huge amount of intelligence throughout the region. I am sure they are part of the reason why an attack has not occurred on American soil since 2001.  If we were to turn our backs away from Israel during a time of war, which we are in, it would be devastating to our objective of fighting terrorism. In my opinion, turning our backs on Israel right now would be equivalent to turning our backs away from our allies during the cold war. If we would have done that, Russia would perhaps be at our door step. 




OrionTheWolf -> RE: Israel says screw you US (6/7/2009 6:54:21 PM)

Having possible staging areas in the Middle East is not a bad idea, but how exactly is Israel helping? It appears as if Iran and Sysria will eventually have nuclear capability, no matter what the UN or the rest of the world says. Iran can do a bombing strike, but it is unlikely they will do more than give the Iranians a set back. Even if you go three steps forward and two steps back, you eventually get there.

So could you list specifically the exact things Israel is doing to assist the US in the Middle East?




Arpig -> RE: Israel says screw you US (6/7/2009 7:04:27 PM)

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So could you list specifically the exact things Israel is doing to assist the US in the Middle East?

Not a bad question really. As far as helping US influence, well I feel they may be doing just the opposite.




viewingthesite11 -> RE: Israel says screw you US (6/7/2009 7:09:34 PM)

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ORIGINAL: OrionTheWolf

Having possible staging areas in the Middle East is not a bad idea, but how exactly is Israel helping? It appears as if Iran and Sysria will eventually have nuclear capability, no matter what the UN or the rest of the world says. Iran can do a bombing strike, but it is unlikely they will do more than give the Iranians a set back. Even if you go three steps forward and two steps back, you eventually get there.

So could you list specifically the exact things Israel is doing to assist the US in the Middle East?


http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/2002-11-03-israel-usat_x.htm

http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/2002-11-03-israel-usat_x.htm

http://www.meforum.org/258/end-american-aid-to-israel-yes-it-does-harm





Kirata -> RE: Israel says screw you US (6/7/2009 7:13:20 PM)


If you couldn't find anything more current than 1995 and 2002, I'm not sure whose side you're on. [:D]

K.





Lorr47 -> RE: Israel says screw you US (6/7/2009 7:16:59 PM)

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I don't know if what this man said is true or not. However, if we do abandon Israel, we would have very little influence in the middle east considering that they are essentially our only real true ally in that part of the world. Also, Israel helps balance out the power through out that part of Asia. If Israel falls, Iran will become way more powerful and will have hell of a lot more influence than they ever did. If you don't believe me, look at what the fall of Iraq did to Iran: made Iran stronger. Lastly, if you were to take that Arkansa boy, and time him by 150 plus million, you will get the number of people that believe what this guy believes. So, in short, it would create a political uproar in an already deteriorating political system.

Israel at the minimum, is a very important strategical ally to hold on to. They do keep countries like Jordan and Iran at bay, to some extent. They help spread American influence throughout the middle east. And, most importantly, they give us a huge amount of intelligence throughout the region. I am sure they are part of the reason why an attack has not occurred on American soil since 2001. If we were to turn our backs away from Israel during a time of war, which we are in, it would be devastating to our objective of fighting terrorism. In my opinion, turning our backs on Israel right now would be equivalent to turning our backs away from our allies during the cold war. If we would have done that, Russia would perhaps be at our door step.

< Message edited by viewingthesite11 -- 6/7/2009 9:50:26 PM >


If  Israel is of such a strategic importance to the U.S., why did Secretary of State Clinton refuse to say that the U.S. would automatically come to the rescue of Israel should it be attacked by the Arab nations?  The ABC commentator bored in trying to get Clinton to say it this morning and she refused.




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