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ORIGINAL: Joenextdoor

Two people connected with the Minutemen break the law on their own time....What does that have to do with the mission of the Minutemen??...Not a thing......but some are ready to say "see there, Bush lied, blah blah blah"...but those same people think nothing is wrong with thousands of people working for ACORN, filling out fraudulent voter registration forms in over a dozen states.  These people are not on their own time when they did this either.  I am not here to defend Bush, because truthfully, he disappointed me in some areas.  The border situation has been going on before he was even a governor.  There was no wink and nod, as he was fine with the masses violating the borders at will anyway. 

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From day one these invaders should have been repelled either by a beefed up border patrol or by our national guard.  Its really almost a no win deal at this point, because the Democrats want them here, in hopes for a legalization in the future, which would swell their voter roles, and Republicans are scared to death to face the issue for fear of alienation of the hispanic vote.  We as a nation do not need one more person coming here that will need a dime in government handouts.  We have enough freeloading citizens here now, and states like California have shown us what creating a freeloading class among the illegals will do for your budget. 

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ORIGINAL: Joenextdoor

My reply was not so much to your reply, but to the topic of this thread.  Secondly, no N word here, as every race in the country has freeloaders.  The point of a border should mean, this is our country, stay the f*** out.

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ORIGINAL: Joenextdoor

Two people connected with the Minutemen break the law on their own time....What does that have to do with the mission of the Minutemen??...Not a thing

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This is not what Minutemen do," said member Chuck Stonex, who responded to an e-mail from The Associated Press sent through the Web site. "Minutemen observe, document and report. This is nothing more than a cold-hearted criminal act, and that is all we want to say."

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ORIGINAL: Joenextdoor

Two people connected with the Minutemen break the law on their own time....What does that have to do with the mission of the Minutemen??...Not a thing......but some are ready to say "see there, Bush lied, blah blah blah"...but those same people think nothing is wrong with thousands of people working for ACORN, filling out fraudulent voter registration forms in over a dozen states.  These people are not on their own time when they did this either.  I am not here to defend Bush, because truthfully, he disappointed me in some areas.  The border situation has been going on before he was even a governor.  There was no wink and nod, as he was fine with the masses violating the borders at will anyway.  From day one these invaders should have been repelled either by a beefed up border patrol or by our national guard.  Its really almost a no win deal at this point, because the Democrats want them here, in hopes for a legalization in the future, which would swell their voter roles, and Republicans are scared to death to face the issue for fear of alienation of the hispanic vote.  We as a nation do not need one more person coming here that will need a dime in government handouts.  We have enough freeloading citizens here now, and states like California have shown us what creating a freeloading class among the illegals will do for your budget. 

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ORIGINAL: Ialdabaoth

I'm still seriously not understanding the fundamental assumption, here.

What does it mean to be a country? What does it mean for there to be a line in the sand that certain people are supposed to be on one side of, and certain other people are supposed to be on the other side of?

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ORIGINAL: TheHeretic

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ORIGINAL: Ialdabaoth

I'm still seriously not understanding the fundamental assumption, here.

What does it mean to be a country? What does it mean for there to be a line in the sand that certain people are supposed to be on one side of, and certain other people are supposed to be on the other side of?

      It's a tax thing.  You could Google it, if you aren't clear. 

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ORIGINAL: slvemike4u

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ORIGINAL: Joenextdoor

Two people connected with the Minutemen break the law on their own time....What does that have to do with the mission of the Minutemen??...Not a thing......but some are ready to say "see there, Bush lied, blah blah blah"...but those same people think nothing is wrong with thousands of people working for ACORN, filling out fraudulent voter registration forms in over a dozen states.  These people are not on their own time when they did this either.  I am not here to defend Bush, because truthfully, he disappointed me in some areas.  The border situation has been going on before he was even a governor.  There was no wink and nod, as he was fine with the masses violating the borders at will anyway.  From day one these invaders should have been repelled either by a beefed up border patrol or by our national guard.  Its really almost a no win deal at this point, because the Democrats want them here, in hopes for a legalization in the future, which would swell their voter roles, and Republicans are scared to death to face the issue for fear of alienation of the hispanic vote.  We as a nation do not need one more person coming here that will need a dime in government handouts.  We have enough freeloading citizens here now, and states like California have shown us what creating a freeloading class among the illegals will do for your budget. 

We as a Nation have no need for a bunch of armed vigilanties "patrolling" our border acting as a qausi legal arm of law enforcement.If you want to make a point about our porous borders all well and good...but he minutemen are not the answer.
By the way once you plug that border....don't bitch about a 5.00$ tomato or ear of corn...just pony up the money and thank god for the secure borders.Adios amigos....

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ORIGINAL: Ialdabaoth
I realize this may be a little over-broad for this subject, but... can someone explain to me again what the point of national borders is?

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Till you actually have to pay that 5.00....all produce goes up...all things that are made using produce go up....not a pretty picture Joe....and it doesn't sound like you have thought it all the way through.Easy to make illegals the scapegoats....not so easy to find a workable solution.Certainly nothing you nor the Minutemen have suggested would qualify as workable...or well thought out.